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Source link: http://archive.mises.org/9585/japanese-taxpayers-still-havent-spent-enough/

Japanese taxpayers still haven’t spent enough

March 10, 2009 by

From The Economist:

See also: The Japanese just didn’t try hard enough

{ 11 comments }

dchrist March 10, 2009 at 11:59 pm

Japan (and much of the world) is ridiculously leveraged. Japan is the greatest G20 debtor (as a percentage of GDP) but also the greatest American creditor per capita (Japan holds nearly as much US Treasury debt as China, but with a much smaller — and declining — population). How can a nation become highly indebted and hold so much of other nations’ debt at the same time?

So much “money” is created that there is an ever-pervasive struggle to capture more of an ever-expanding money supply. Those who understand the precariously provisional nature of purchasing power are in a rush to invest or spend the money as quickly as humanly (or electronically) possible. Even if the invested “capital” is borrowed or printed ex nihilo, the investor will continue to believe that they “must” borrow and invest in order to make a “spread” on their investments.

When the money supply expands geometrically at the speed of the printing press, the time value of money rises ever higher to uncertain levels. No one knows how much money they will need to satisfy basic needs. Even governments are now in the dark, since they can not (or will not) compel the central banks to report their actual volume of money printed. When no one, not even governments, can trust the stability of currency, who will have the discipline of savings and thrift?

Gil March 11, 2009 at 1:52 am

So Russia is in good shape then?

P.S. It’s interesting to see Brazil’s debt actually going down.

Marc Sheffner March 11, 2009 at 6:55 am

My beginner’s knowledge of Austrian economics tells me that if the government inflates the money supply, rising prices will be one of the results. However, according to the Concise Encyclopedia of Economics report on Japan, Japan did not suffer this. Why not?

lessthantolerant March 11, 2009 at 8:20 am

How much longer can this insanity continue?

When can we predict a full financial collapse?

What will be the rammifications of this collapse?

Interesting outcomes to be sure.

jb1122 March 11, 2009 at 8:32 am

Maybe Russia can save the west. In Rothbard’s “Mystery of Banking” (or maybe it was AGD or “What has govt done to our money”) he states that possible way out of this mess is if Russia somehow wakes up and introduces a gold standard, there may be a chance to turn all of this paper money addiction around in our lifetimes.

Malthus March 11, 2009 at 1:27 pm

Lol Russia? The Russians have only ever known one way; that of statist authoritarianism. The total collapse of Russia is much more likely then it leading the world in to a new ‘golden’ age. It will be lucky to even sort out the basics like the rule of law.

Jerry Kohn March 11, 2009 at 2:11 pm

Is Japan following the same trajectory as the U.S.? Are Japan’s zombie banks holding excess reserves rather than loaning the money out in the form of fractional reserve loans? In other words, are the forces of recession still stronger than the forces of price inflation? How long can that continue? When does stagflation set in?

Nathan Mayer March 11, 2009 at 4:17 pm

Marc,

Japan did increase it’s monetary base but there was no inflation because the newly created yen did not enter the economy. Much like as we see in the US today, banks let their vaults pile up with cash but did not make any new loans because:

a) there were no credit-worthy borrowers – a result of the squandering of the pool of resources brought about by the 80s monetary inflation

b) corporations and consumers did not want to borrow due to lack of opportunity

ergo the new money sat idle.

Note that the Nikkei did this:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=%5EN225&t=my&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=

while the real economy suffered deflation and mega-longlasting-recession.

I am one of the few here who thinks the US faces deflation and not inflation, that our experience will mirror Japan’s.

newson March 11, 2009 at 5:14 pm

to nathan mayer:

you missed the key part – the new money didn’t still still, it emigrated. see “yen carry-trade” for how america’s various bubbles were financed by the japanese money growth seeking higher returns offshore.

there was never any deflation in japan (in the austrian sense), only falling asset prices and flat cpi.

newson March 11, 2009 at 5:32 pm

“- the new money didn’t stay still…”

Marc Sheffner March 11, 2009 at 6:45 pm

Thanks, nathan and newson. (I just realized that “here” in cyberspace means as much as it does in outer space: not very much! (I’m in Japan and lived thru the bubble, but I didn’t have the knowledge I needed to make sense of what was going on). That Economist graph is terrifying: Japan seems to have the most to lose of the Asian countries if the US defaults or if the dollar tanks completely. Oh, but I forgot: there’s no need to worry because as nice Mr Cheney has reminded us, “Deficits don’t matter”.

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