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		<title>By: Reason</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9328/stimulus-as-an-obscene-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-496801</link>
		<dc:creator>Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 07:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tim O,

Bridges, levees and banking in this country are dominated by government control and that is why you see no consequences or responsibility assigned for their failures. Notice that the peanut, toy and pet food producers are (will be) hurt by their fraudulent or irresponsible actions to the extent that they live in the market.

The Chinese boss associated with the lead toys commited suicide in response to his market exposure. There was a massive recall too. No such action has been taken against or by FEMA or Army Corp of Engineers or any politician (ever?). 

Now, government is intertwined in the market place- but the closer entities are to a real market the more accountable they are. Currently it is a matter of degree. 

More generically, it is important for a counter force to apply regulation. It is just that government, as a taxing and violent monopoly, has less countering it. The classic liberal question of &quot;Who is watching the watchers?&quot; may come to mind. Markets always have a greater likelihood of off-setting powers because no entity has the prior one-up inherent in the ability to tax and access to arbitrary final ruling in its own disputes etc. 

Markets assume horizontal relationships. Government, vertical.

As Ron Paul said earlier, why isn&#039;t the Federal Reserve or Treasury regulated? 



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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tim O,</p>
<p>Bridges, levees and banking in this country are dominated by government control and that is why you see no consequences or responsibility assigned for their failures. Notice that the peanut, toy and pet food producers are (will be) hurt by their fraudulent or irresponsible actions to the extent that they live in the market.</p>
<p>The Chinese boss associated with the lead toys commited suicide in response to his market exposure. There was a massive recall too. No such action has been taken against or by FEMA or Army Corp of Engineers or any politician (ever?). </p>
<p>Now, government is intertwined in the market place- but the closer entities are to a real market the more accountable they are. Currently it is a matter of degree. </p>
<p>More generically, it is important for a counter force to apply regulation. It is just that government, as a taxing and violent monopoly, has less countering it. The classic liberal question of &#8220;Who is watching the watchers?&#8221; may come to mind. Markets always have a greater likelihood of off-setting powers because no entity has the prior one-up inherent in the ability to tax and access to arbitrary final ruling in its own disputes etc. </p>
<p>Markets assume horizontal relationships. Government, vertical.</p>
<p>As Ron Paul said earlier, why isn&#8217;t the Federal Reserve or Treasury regulated? </p>
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		<title>By: Tim O</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9328/stimulus-as-an-obscene-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-496780</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the hands off approach worked very well in peanuts, lead filled toys, poison laden pet food, Minnesota bridges, New Orleans levees and banking over the last couple of years.

Viva Libertarianism! Death to Regulation!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the hands off approach worked very well in peanuts, lead filled toys, poison laden pet food, Minnesota bridges, New Orleans levees and banking over the last couple of years.</p>
<p>Viva Libertarianism! Death to Regulation!</p>
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		<title>By: EconAndre</title>
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		<dc:creator>EconAndre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 03:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, searching the bill is really fun.  I searched on the word &quot;shovel&quot; and found a great project ready to spend.

Shop &#039;til you drop!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, searching the bill is really fun.  I searched on the word &#8220;shovel&#8221; and found a great project ready to spend.</p>
<p>Shop &#8217;til you drop!</p>
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		<title>By: Drake</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9328/stimulus-as-an-obscene-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-496730</link>
		<dc:creator>Drake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen some comments on this site claiming that politicians aren&#039;t evil, per se.  Just stupid.

http://blog.mises.org/archives/009302.asp

Well, as stupid as they may be, they&#039;re smart enough to realize that spending other people&#039;s money keeps them in power.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen some comments on this site claiming that politicians aren&#8217;t evil, per se.  Just stupid.</p>
<p><a href="http://blog.mises.org/archives/009302.asp" rel="nofollow">http://blog.mises.org/archives/009302.asp</a></p>
<p>Well, as stupid as they may be, they&#8217;re smart enough to realize that spending other people&#8217;s money keeps them in power.</p>
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		<title>By: Deefburger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deefburger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, 2010 mid-term election stimulus.  I guess I can breath a little until I have to &quot;grab my ankles&quot;.

It is obscene.  Gone are the days when we could pay a debt with only a pound of flesh.  Now it takes a whole nation of bodies.

&quot;Jane!! Stop this crazy thing!! JANE!&quot;  George Jetson]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, 2010 mid-term election stimulus.  I guess I can breath a little until I have to &#8220;grab my ankles&#8221;.</p>
<p>It is obscene.  Gone are the days when we could pay a debt with only a pound of flesh.  Now it takes a whole nation of bodies.</p>
<p>&#8220;Jane!! Stop this crazy thing!! JANE!&#8221;  George Jetson</p>
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		<title>By: Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Larry,

I bet Peanut Corp uses stimulus money to pay for their legal defence, court fees, fines, restitution- and ad campaigns to restore public confidence. 

To think they killed people for peanuts.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry,</p>
<p>I bet Peanut Corp uses stimulus money to pay for their legal defence, court fees, fines, restitution- and ad campaigns to restore public confidence. </p>
<p>To think they killed people for peanuts.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Sheldon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Sheldon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 14:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another obscene gesture.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/27/AR2009012702992.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another obscene gesture.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/27/AR2009012702992.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/27/AR2009012702992.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 10:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I posted the same sentiment on my Facebook this morning when I saw the same graph on WSJ:

See that graph? That&#039;s a big middle finger, a gargantuan F-You!, to the citizens as our government pushes the debt to new levels in 2010. The &quot;value&quot; of the dollars in your wallet will plummet as the monetary supply is hyper inflated. Does anyone really understand what a trillion dollars looks like?    ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted the same sentiment on my Facebook this morning when I saw the same graph on WSJ:</p>
<p>See that graph? That&#8217;s a big middle finger, a gargantuan F-You!, to the citizens as our government pushes the debt to new levels in 2010. The &#8220;value&#8221; of the dollars in your wallet will plummet as the monetary supply is hyper inflated. Does anyone really understand what a trillion dollars looks like?    </p>
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		<title>By: J Cortez</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9328/stimulus-as-an-obscene-gesture/comment-page-1/#comment-496587</link>
		<dc:creator>J Cortez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 09:27:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The stimulus obscene? Yes, but I would argue that the overwhelming majority of what congress does is obscene. The only difference is the degree of obscenity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The stimulus obscene? Yes, but I would argue that the overwhelming majority of what congress does is obscene. The only difference is the degree of obscenity.</p>
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