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		<title>By: D. Frank Robinson</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-771801</link>
		<dc:creator>D. Frank Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Apr 2011 10:54:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is copyright imposed by virtue of the author&#039;s nationality or by jurisdiction of publication? 

Is there any legal jurisdiction that does NOT subscribe to the Berne Convention? In other words, is there anywhere that one can publish outside the regime and automatically evade automatic copyright? 

Related to Nelson Cruz, so how does one avoid violating &#039;moral rights&#039; by creating an adaptation based on a public domain work? Must EVERYTHING be paraphrased? 

How is a translation of a public domain (expired copyright) not a copyrighted adaptation? It is a total paraphrase of the original by being translated. If one creates an adaptation based upon a translation of a work with an expired copyright is it a violation of the translator&#039;s copyright? 

Furthermore, how &#039;bad&#039; (deviant) must a translation-adaptation be to violate the &#039;moral rights&#039; of a dead author of an expired copyright work? 

Is it a violation of the a dead author&#039;s (expired copyright) &#039;moral rights&#039; to include the author&#039;s original work in it&#039;s entirety in his language along side an adaptation from a translation in another language? How could that violate the &#039;integrity&#039; of the original when the two works are clearly distinguishable as being the works of separate authors in separate languages?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is copyright imposed by virtue of the author&#8217;s nationality or by jurisdiction of publication? </p>
<p>Is there any legal jurisdiction that does NOT subscribe to the Berne Convention? In other words, is there anywhere that one can publish outside the regime and automatically evade automatic copyright? </p>
<p>Related to Nelson Cruz, so how does one avoid violating &#8216;moral rights&#8217; by creating an adaptation based on a public domain work? Must EVERYTHING be paraphrased? </p>
<p>How is a translation of a public domain (expired copyright) not a copyrighted adaptation? It is a total paraphrase of the original by being translated. If one creates an adaptation based upon a translation of a work with an expired copyright is it a violation of the translator&#8217;s copyright? </p>
<p>Furthermore, how &#8216;bad&#8217; (deviant) must a translation-adaptation be to violate the &#8216;moral rights&#8217; of a dead author of an expired copyright work? </p>
<p>Is it a violation of the a dead author&#8217;s (expired copyright) &#8216;moral rights&#8217; to include the author&#8217;s original work in it&#8217;s entirety in his language along side an adaptation from a translation in another language? How could that violate the &#8216;integrity&#8217; of the original when the two works are clearly distinguishable as being the works of separate authors in separate languages?</p>
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		<title>By: Letter to MacBreak&#8217;s Scott Bourne about Open Source and the Free Market</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-691100</link>
		<dc:creator>Letter to MacBreak&#8217;s Scott Bourne about Open Source and the Free Market</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 16:19:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] or creative commons attribution only instead of the share-alike/GNU type model (which I explain in Copyright is very sticky!, Eben Moglen and Leftist Opposition to Intellectual Property, and Leftist Attacks on the Google [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] or creative commons attribution only instead of the share-alike/GNU type model (which I explain in Copyright is very sticky!, Eben Moglen and Leftist Opposition to Intellectual Property, and Leftist Attacks on the Google [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Shay</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-643084</link>
		<dc:creator>Shay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Mad Hatter, who in this discussion said that the GPL is to &quot;free code&quot;? There is nobody named Stephen in this discussion, and assuming you meant Stephan, I don&#039;t see any comments from him about the GPL. Also, note that this is from almost a year ago.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Mad Hatter, who in this discussion said that the GPL is to &#8220;free code&#8221;? There is nobody named Stephen in this discussion, and assuming you meant Stephan, I don&#8217;t see any comments from him about the GPL. Also, note that this is from almost a year ago.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Hatter</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-643075</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Hatter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Dec 2009 13:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stephen,

I think that you misunderstand the purpose of the GPL. It is not to &#039;free code&#039; in the way you think. Instead it is to make sure that code written under it is always free for the user to modify and run, provided that they pass along the same rights, and contribute back any changes that they distribute.

In effect, by using the GPL, I am saying that you can run and use my code, and the cost of doing so is to contribute any code you write and redistribute back to the project.

Think about it. Microsoft charges for Windows. Linus charges for the Linux kernel. They just do it in different ways (and since I prefer Linus&#039;s way, guess what I use?)
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stephen,</p>
<p>I think that you misunderstand the purpose of the GPL. It is not to &#8216;free code&#8217; in the way you think. Instead it is to make sure that code written under it is always free for the user to modify and run, provided that they pass along the same rights, and contribute back any changes that they distribute.</p>
<p>In effect, by using the GPL, I am saying that you can run and use my code, and the cost of doing so is to contribute any code you write and redistribute back to the project.</p>
<p>Think about it. Microsoft charges for Windows. Linus charges for the Linux kernel. They just do it in different ways (and since I prefer Linus&#8217;s way, guess what I use?)</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Cruz</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496908</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Outside the US, the CC attribution license comes pretty close to public domain. In Europe there are usually &quot;moral rights&quot; that can never be waived or sold to someone else. These are the right of attribution and the right to the integrity of the work. You cant take a public domain work and claim it as your own, or change it and claim it is as the author intended. These rights last forever, and it is up to the state to make sure they are not infringed after the author is dead and even after the work is in public domain.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Outside the US, the CC attribution license comes pretty close to public domain. In Europe there are usually &#8220;moral rights&#8221; that can never be waived or sold to someone else. These are the right of attribution and the right to the integrity of the work. You cant take a public domain work and claim it as your own, or change it and claim it is as the author intended. These rights last forever, and it is up to the state to make sure they are not infringed after the author is dead and even after the work is in public domain.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496854</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ktibuk:

&quot;&quot;This does not waive copyright. Stating you do not have a copyright does not make this true.&quot;

&quot;This means there are problems with the legislation.

&quot;Just because there are rent control laws, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean we should abolish private property when it comes to land.&quot;

This is an evasion. You IP-redistributionist-socialists want to argue we anti-IPers are hypocritical since we don&#039;t &quot;waive&quot; our copyright. 1. This is not hypocritical; our policy beliefs, and how we navigate in the imperfect world you and your kind foist on us, are separate issues, so there is no contradiction; 2. even if we are hypocritical, it does not prove you are right in your IP socialism, so this is just ad hominem; and 3., finally, it is not possible to &quot;waive&quot; copyright, as you claim, so your entire attack disappears. You want to blame us for opposing copyright, and for having copyright, yet the latter is not in our control. It is imposed on us by you and your ilk.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ktibuk:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8221;This does not waive copyright. Stating you do not have a copyright does not make this true.&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;This means there are problems with the legislation.</p>
<p>&#8220;Just because there are rent control laws, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean we should abolish private property when it comes to land.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is an evasion. You IP-redistributionist-socialists want to argue we anti-IPers are hypocritical since we don&#8217;t &#8220;waive&#8221; our copyright. 1. This is not hypocritical; our policy beliefs, and how we navigate in the imperfect world you and your kind foist on us, are separate issues, so there is no contradiction; 2. even if we are hypocritical, it does not prove you are right in your IP socialism, so this is just ad hominem; and 3., finally, it is not possible to &#8220;waive&#8221; copyright, as you claim, so your entire attack disappears. You want to blame us for opposing copyright, and for having copyright, yet the latter is not in our control. It is imposed on us by you and your ilk.</p>
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		<title>By: Nelson Cruz</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496848</link>
		<dc:creator>Nelson Cruz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d just like to point out that a &quot;non-commercial&quot; CC license doesn&#039;t mean the work can never be commercially published. It only means the author must be asked permission (and he can even grant it for free at that time).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d just like to point out that a &#8220;non-commercial&#8221; CC license doesn&#8217;t mean the work can never be commercially published. It only means the author must be asked permission (and he can even grant it for free at that time).</p>
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		<title>By: ktibuk</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496846</link>
		<dc:creator>ktibuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 09:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This does not waive copyright. Stating you do not have a copyright does not make this true.&quot;

This means there are problems with the legislation.

Just because there are rent control laws, doesn&#039;t necessarily mean we should abolish private property when it comes to land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This does not waive copyright. Stating you do not have a copyright does not make this true.&#8221;</p>
<p>This means there are problems with the legislation.</p>
<p>Just because there are rent control laws, doesn&#8217;t necessarily mean we should abolish private property when it comes to land.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496829</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark, you used to have to take affirmative steps, like copyright notice or registration. So then it made sense to say you copyrighted something; and if you failed to do this, then you didn&#039;t copyright it. Much like you can &quot;patent&quot; something now, if you file an appliation for it. If you don&#039;t, you don&#039;t get a patent.

I think it&#039;s a bit of a leftover from those days but mostly the usage stems from ignorance of the fact that you dont&#039; have to put a copyright notice or register or do anything to get a copyright.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark, you used to have to take affirmative steps, like copyright notice or registration. So then it made sense to say you copyrighted something; and if you failed to do this, then you didn&#8217;t copyright it. Much like you can &#8220;patent&#8221; something now, if you file an appliation for it. If you don&#8217;t, you don&#8217;t get a patent.</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s a bit of a leftover from those days but mostly the usage stems from ignorance of the fact that you dont&#8217; have to put a copyright notice or register or do anything to get a copyright.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496815</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 08:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah.  Thanks for clearing that up.  Good point, and well made.  I&#039;m now left wondering whether the verb usage is antiquated or applicable to other cultures.   It&#039;s not as though we use the verb when we apply for an extension of copyright.  Odd.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah.  Thanks for clearing that up.  Good point, and well made.  I&#8217;m now left wondering whether the verb usage is antiquated or applicable to other cultures.   It&#8217;s not as though we use the verb when we apply for an extension of copyright.  Odd.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496783</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 06:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark: &quot;&quot;I&#039;ve pointed out to such people innumerable times, to little avail, that copyright is a noun, not a verb&quot;

I can&#039;t find any record as to when it happened, but copyright is shown as having a transitive verb usage by both merriam-webster and dictionary.com. 

I&#039;m sure it comes as a surprise; I was more that a bit disheartened to learn that my own pet peeve (funnest) is also grammatically correct. 
&quot;

My point was not a semantic or grammatical one. IT&#039;s a legal one. You cannot &quot;copyright&quot; something since there are no steps needed; no action by the author. IT&#039;s just automatical, by federal law. This is what people don&#039;t get; and they imply otherwise when they use it as a verb.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: &#8220;&#8221;I&#8217;ve pointed out to such people innumerable times, to little avail, that copyright is a noun, not a verb&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find any record as to when it happened, but copyright is shown as having a transitive verb usage by both merriam-webster and dictionary.com. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it comes as a surprise; I was more that a bit disheartened to learn that my own pet peeve (funnest) is also grammatically correct.<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>My point was not a semantic or grammatical one. IT&#8217;s a legal one. You cannot &#8220;copyright&#8221; something since there are no steps needed; no action by the author. IT&#8217;s just automatical, by federal law. This is what people don&#8217;t get; and they imply otherwise when they use it as a verb.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496758</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;ve pointed out to such people innumerable times, to little avail, that copyright is a noun, not a verb&quot;

I can&#039;t find any record as to when it happened, but copyright is shown as having a transitive verb usage by both merriam-webster and dictionary.com. 

I&#039;m sure it comes as a surprise; I was more that a bit disheartened to learn that my own pet peeve (funnest) is also grammatically correct. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;ve pointed out to such people innumerable times, to little avail, that copyright is a noun, not a verb&#8221;</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t find any record as to when it happened, but copyright is shown as having a transitive verb usage by both merriam-webster and dictionary.com. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sure it comes as a surprise; I was more that a bit disheartened to learn that my own pet peeve (funnest) is also grammatically correct. </p>
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		<title>By: gumnos</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-496755</link>
		<dc:creator>gumnos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 04:39:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds like one could use the WTFPL license:

http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/

(may not be appropriate for work/tykes)

-gumnos]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like one could use the WTFPL license:</p>
<p><a href="http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/" rel="nofollow">http://sam.zoy.org/wtfpl/</a></p>
<p>(may not be appropriate for work/tykes)</p>
<p>-gumnos</p>
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		<title>By: Paul</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-494159</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 21:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem with simply saying that a work has no copyright is it would not prevent another from imposing such copyright restrictions on other people.

While there remain IPR laws, Steve&#039;s idea of holding copyright in order for others not to abuse a lack of copyright seems to be the best means of protecting people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem with simply saying that a work has no copyright is it would not prevent another from imposing such copyright restrictions on other people.</p>
<p>While there remain IPR laws, Steve&#8217;s idea of holding copyright in order for others not to abuse a lack of copyright seems to be the best means of protecting people.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-493092</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 11:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[ktibuk: &quot;&quot;Silas, pray tell, how does one &quot;waive&quot; one&#039;s copyright?&quot;

&quot;The one, who is the owner of the material, writes somewhere the material is not copyrighted and the one doesn&#039;t go after people who copy it.&quot;

This does not waive copyright. Stating you do not have a copyright does not make this true.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ktibuk: &#8220;&#8221;Silas, pray tell, how does one &#8220;waive&#8221; one&#8217;s copyright?&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;The one, who is the owner of the material, writes somewhere the material is not copyrighted and the one doesn&#8217;t go after people who copy it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This does not waive copyright. Stating you do not have a copyright does not make this true.</p>
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		<title>By: Reilly</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-493090</link>
		<dc:creator>Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 10:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@ktibuk:  It isn&#039;t that simple, legally you have the copyright no matter what, that is the point of Stephan&#039;s post.  While it is true that nothing will happen to the publisher if the copyright owner never takes it upon themselves to sue them, most publishers won&#039;t publish copyrighted material based off of a promise by the copyright holder not to sue them.  There is no assurance that the copyright holder won&#039;t change their mind, especially when there is a monetary incentive created by the state to do so.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ktibuk:  It isn&#8217;t that simple, legally you have the copyright no matter what, that is the point of Stephan&#8217;s post.  While it is true that nothing will happen to the publisher if the copyright owner never takes it upon themselves to sue them, most publishers won&#8217;t publish copyrighted material based off of a promise by the copyright holder not to sue them.  There is no assurance that the copyright holder won&#8217;t change their mind, especially when there is a monetary incentive created by the state to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: ktibuk</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-492848</link>
		<dc:creator>ktibuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 21:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Silas, pray tell, how does one &quot;waive&quot; one&#039;s copyright?&quot;

The one, who is the owner of the material, writes somewhere the material is not copyrighted and the one doesn&#039;t go after people who copy it.

Pretty simple really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Silas, pray tell, how does one &#8220;waive&#8221; one&#8217;s copyright?&#8221;</p>
<p>The one, who is the owner of the material, writes somewhere the material is not copyrighted and the one doesn&#8217;t go after people who copy it.</p>
<p>Pretty simple really.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-492824</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Silas: &quot;Puh-leeze. This is just rationalization. You know very well that you can at least take *some* de minimus effort to waive the legal right to prevent others from copying you; the fact that the existing methods are imperfect is no excuse, and that argument certainly doesn&#039;t justify adding a copyright notice.&quot;

Silas, pray tell, how does one &quot;waive&quot; one&#039;s copyright? Are you suggesting that one add, in footnote 13, the text, &quot;I hereby waive my copyright.&quot;? Would that work? Or, are you one of those I described in the first and third paragraphs of my post above?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Silas: &#8220;Puh-leeze. This is just rationalization. You know very well that you can at least take *some* de minimus effort to waive the legal right to prevent others from copying you; the fact that the existing methods are imperfect is no excuse, and that argument certainly doesn&#8217;t justify adding a copyright notice.&#8221;</p>
<p>Silas, pray tell, how does one &#8220;waive&#8221; one&#8217;s copyright? Are you suggesting that one add, in footnote 13, the text, &#8220;I hereby waive my copyright.&#8221;? Would that work? Or, are you one of those I described in the first and third paragraphs of my post above?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-492807</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 15:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The goal of using copyleft licenses, at least in theory, is to propagate open code/content, instead of having it get sucked into a proprietary blackhole.&lt;/i&gt;

Which is a stupid argument - obviously, nobody has the power to &quot;suck it into a proprietary black hole&quot;.  At most, they can utilize it in a proprietary product - and so what?  That doesn&#039;t make the existing code cease to exist - it doesn&#039;t affect it in any way whatsoever!  So where is the problem, again?

&lt;i&gt;Here I thought only the owner of the IP can initiate a prosecution against copyright infringement by a formal complaint and if he or she doesn&#039;t, this effectively means there would be no copyrights on certain IP.&lt;/i&gt;

But how can you ever be sure he won&#039;t?  He can &lt;i&gt;say&lt;/i&gt; he won&#039;t...and then change his mind a few years down the track when your entire business depends on &quot;infringement&quot; of his &quot;IP&quot;, and hold you to ransom, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The goal of using copyleft licenses, at least in theory, is to propagate open code/content, instead of having it get sucked into a proprietary blackhole.</i></p>
<p>Which is a stupid argument &#8211; obviously, nobody has the power to &#8220;suck it into a proprietary black hole&#8221;.  At most, they can utilize it in a proprietary product &#8211; and so what?  That doesn&#8217;t make the existing code cease to exist &#8211; it doesn&#8217;t affect it in any way whatsoever!  So where is the problem, again?</p>
<p><i>Here I thought only the owner of the IP can initiate a prosecution against copyright infringement by a formal complaint and if he or she doesn&#8217;t, this effectively means there would be no copyrights on certain IP.</i></p>
<p>But how can you ever be sure he won&#8217;t?  He can <i>say</i> he won&#8217;t&#8230;and then change his mind a few years down the track when your entire business depends on &#8220;infringement&#8221; of his &#8220;IP&#8221;, and hold you to ransom, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: Silas Barta</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/9240/copyright-is-very-sticky/comment-page-1/#comment-492725</link>
		<dc:creator>Silas Barta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 06:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Stephan_Kinsella: Puh-leeze.  This is just rationalization.  You know very well that you can at least take *some* de minimus effort to waive the legal right to prevent others from copying you; the fact that the existing methods are imperfect is no excuse, and that argument certainly doesn&#039;t justify adding a copyright notice.

Also, you and others have gone a lot further by selling your copyrights to publishers.  When you do so, you are, by your own standards, authorizing others to commit aggression for you, which is morally equivalent to the aggression itself.  Perhaps it&#039;s &quot;hard&quot; to promote the book&#039;s ideas otherwise.  I disagree, but regardless, you don&#039;t seem to even try.

You&#039;ve already conceded that your position on IP hinges on wholly arbitrary assumptions you can&#039;t justify.  Time to give up this crusade until you can put it on firmer footing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Stephan_Kinsella: Puh-leeze.  This is just rationalization.  You know very well that you can at least take *some* de minimus effort to waive the legal right to prevent others from copying you; the fact that the existing methods are imperfect is no excuse, and that argument certainly doesn&#8217;t justify adding a copyright notice.</p>
<p>Also, you and others have gone a lot further by selling your copyrights to publishers.  When you do so, you are, by your own standards, authorizing others to commit aggression for you, which is morally equivalent to the aggression itself.  Perhaps it&#8217;s &#8220;hard&#8221; to promote the book&#8217;s ideas otherwise.  I disagree, but regardless, you don&#8217;t seem to even try.</p>
<p>You&#8217;ve already conceded that your position on IP hinges on wholly arbitrary assumptions you can&#8217;t justify.  Time to give up this crusade until you can put it on firmer footing.</p>
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