The mystery isn’t how one person was able to fool a few. The scheme in which yesterday’s “investors” are paid off with the money of today’s new victims is ubiquitous in all places and probably all times–and it always goes belly up with the originator’s complete disgrace.The critical difference this time is that Madoff ran his scheme during an economic boom, perhaps the biggest in history, a time when people’s normal sense of incredulity is put on the shelf. FULL ARTICLE
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Madoff as Metaphor
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Most Americans seemed to understand that the $700B bailout Congress eventually passed would fall onto them and future generations to pay, which is one reason why there was so much resistance to the scheme.
Contrast that with the shenanigans Bernanke and Paulson have been up to these last three months. I doubt that 1 in 100 have any notion of what the Federal Reserve is or what it does. But sit someone down that has an open mind and ask him some simple questions.
For instance: If the government is trillions in debt already, where did it suddenly get this pile of money? If they’re borrowing these vast sums, doesn’t it mean we have to pay it back…with interest? If it isn’t being borrowed, it must mean that our central bank is creating it, right? And if you haven’t produced anything more, but now there are more money tickets in circulation chasing the same amount of goods, doesn’t that spell trouble for you and your family?
Ask people these questions and even the dim-wits will see the light. Our government is running the largest financial scam in the history of the world, and we are its victims. They make Madoff look like a piker.
Revolution, anyone?
Excellent Article – as far as it goes. But the vagueness of “But meanwhile, the likes of Bush, Bernanke, Paulson, Obama, and all the rest are still riding high, even though their scheme is far larger and more egregious.”
I think you are onto something big. Please do more than insinuate! America needs honesty, not euphemism and hints. I implore you to extemporize honestly and without fear.
Regards,
Tabacco (Truth About Business And Congressional Crimes Organization)
Yes, this article goes at least 3/4 of the way to functional understanding. I don’t have the entire remaining 1/4, but I offer three additional things to consider:
1) When in the stampede, it behooves all to go in the same general direction to avoid being get trampled. That is why “good” bank managers or “good” mortgage lenders simply had to go along. If they had refused to play in that game, they would have had very little business, and would have failed, precisely because they were conscientious.
2) Governments, even local governments, find inflation to be in their favor. Governments run on taxation, and inflated money raises their revenues. In many cases (see tax appraisals on real estate or paper gains on investments), governments tax “added value” before it is realized, so governments can extract more money from the same property, merely by declaring it to be “worth” more.
3) Though we publicly lament the “worthlessness” of fiat paper money, we ignore its very real value: if we give enough of it to the government, we can avoid losing all our possessions; ultimately, we can avoid going to prison.
As Mel Brooks said, “It’s good to be the king.” The ruling class always does OK, except in the heat of revolution. That is why our rulers will continue to throw money at us until they finish squandering the wealth of every private individual in the nation. Only then will the majority of the people pay attention; and then it will be too late for any kind of civilized recovery.
The only question remaining is the timing of the ultimate collapse.
“The ruling class always does OK, except in the heat of revolution. That is why our rulers will continue to throw money at us until they finish squandering the wealth of every private individual in the nation.”
In addition to bread and circus. Unfortunately, while I do not particularly how things are now, I get the nagging feeling that we might have a more naked dictatorship should a collapse occur instead of a triumph of classical liberalism. But, it is worth trying to explain other people our philosophy.
How does one save money today? Rockwell says “investing” in stocks is not saving. I believe that real interest rates are basically negative, so keeping money in a bank account is a losing proposition. What do the Austrians recommend?
Lew ,
Excellent article on the financial mess.
Madoff could not have succeeded in the magnitude of his scam if the scam perpetrated by the FED and politicians were not in place to start with and that continues.
The root cause being the creation of The Federal Reserve.
The FED and politicians, except Ron Paul, are pointing fingers in all directions but at themselves as the cause. All of the central bankers of the world are in on this scam.
Fortunately they are now wise enough(?) to realize they are all crooks and things cannot go on as in the past, what a revolting development.
A very good article.
One of the many irritating things about the current situation is the fact that the main stream media act as if the warnings of the Austrian school did not happen.
Publications such as “Newsweek” even have articles even have sneering articles attacking libertarians efforts to explain the present crises as the result of this or that government intervention (the sneer being that any “nonfanatical” person would understand that this is “market failure” that can only be responded to by yet more statism), whilst totally ignoring the fact that Austrian school people predicted the whole mess (and predicted in writing – again and again) as the result of the increase in the money supply – the credit/money bubble.
Yet it is the “mainstream” (in both the media and academia) who say that “science is prediction” and that economics is “empirical” – but they both ignore evidence (such as the repeated failures of more government spending in Japan to restore prosperity) and ignore the fact that Austrian school economists repeatedly said that trying to finance lending (“investment”) on the expansion of credit/money (rather than soley on real savings) was bound, sooner or later, to lead to what is comming to pass.
It seems that wicked a priori folk have more respect for evidence and prediction than the so called empiricists.
mark:
If you want to protect the money you save from being stolen by government (via inflation of the money supply), then you have to exchange it into a currency that isn’t fiat in nature.
This is why precious metals (gold, silver, et. al.) have been used as money for thousands of years, and why they will continue to be used as money after fiat currencies collapse.
COMMENT: Doesn’t it occur to you that Madoff may have been making the same point that Lew Rockwell is making here?
Mark,
Do not invest in gold, you can trade it, but it is not an investment! Sold for $21 an ounce in 1900, adjust for inflation and the real price of that $21 investment would be around $600. So basically if you sold it today, you would have made around $200 after paying all the fees. Not too good for a 100+ year investment. If you want to play commodities, try the index funds. Your commissions to execute trades is much less and the investment is totally liquid.
As far as the tie between Madoff and the Fed is totally off base! These are the kinds of ties that give this economic approach a bad name. It really is a shame because the Austrian approach is the best, but articles like this take it to the gutters.
Learn to take your cause to the public!
greg:
Mark wasnted to “save money” in a similar manner to traditional bank savings rather than investing. Gold still sounds like a decent answer to his question.
Nice thing about the article is how it avoids the hard-to-grasp term “fiat”, and talks instead about “funny money” and “fradulent money”. Especialy the “funny” one rings as good catch-phrase to be used when presenting our case to the masses.
Im glad that I bought gold at $290 in 99 for today I can go to my local coin shop and they will buy at $875. Not a bad profit….paying $25 over spot
Go for the gold.
Im glad that I bought gold at $290 in 99 for today I can go to my local coin shop and they will buy at $875. Not a bad profit….paying $25 over spot
Go for the gold.
Most of the people who rail against funny money or fiat money, are almost always working up a mob for a newer definition of wealth like gold. Will gold prove that much better than dollars? I doubt it. Different people would value the same thing differently. And the same person may value a thing differently at different times. To assume that we can design a market mechanism to value things correctly for everyone is too simplistic. As long as we continue to believe that everything in the world can be monetized, and that monetary unity like a single god is essential, we will end up giving control to a manipulative system.
I always found it funny when someone says that people in sub-saharan areas live on less than a dollar a day. By introducing dollars into a place and context where it is simply irrelevant, you give the dollar and its pursuit much power than what it really has in the big scheme on things.
I have read all of the comments by Lew and
the others. I find it interesting that everyone
wants to expostulate about the delima we
face with our money, but no one seems
to be able to make a valid solution for
us.
I lost $1,000,000 dollars in gold and silver in
1980, because the government decieded
tha the Hunts and others lke me were a threat
to the future of the dollar.
I was broke, but I went to work, I did what I do
best. I am a Salesman. I had quit working. I had saved up $600,000 after taxes lost $300,000 of hard earned money. I saw
my “safe investments” evaporate)
If it were not for my real estate investments
I would be close to broke, and when i read
articles that predict the faillure of our government, I wish for a solution not more
verbage
The highest use of real estate, is that you
put people in it. You can’t make more of it
because land cant come out of a printing
press. When I see local and federal governments increasing “values” to collect
more taxes, I wonder how you get off
this merry go round and find someone
who knows how to keep us safe from
our own governments?
As G.K Chesterton wrote, when men cease to believe in God, they don’t believe in nothing, but *anything.*
Madoff, wealth, socialist nirvanas all seem to qualify well
As G.K Chesterton wrote, when men cease to believe in God, they don’t believe in nothing, but *anything.*
Madoff, wealth, socialist nirvanas all seem to qualify well
Great article.
Yes, the Madoff scheme and Social Security have alot in common. However, there is one difference as I see it. Social Security is supposed to be there for all of us when we reach age to collect. The government has not been a good steward of those funds and eventually a generation is going to be left out in the cold. Basicly the rich have gotten richer because of some political scheming. Madoff allegedly stole from the rich and gave to the poor, through all those so-called victims creating charities (and don’t forget, there probably was alot of tax write-offs because of their charity work), but the money got to the poor, like a modern day Robin Hood.
Now we all know that somewhere in the near future there is going to be a book and a movie created over all this. I suppose this will create some large royalty payments to a few individuals. Maybe those individuals could get a conscience starting right now and do some good with those payments. Not by giving it back to the supposed victims, maybe putting it into the coming biggest charity of them all, Social Security. (with some strict rules attached so as the government can’t squander those funds also).
I think this article should clarify that the only way to “create something out of nothing” is by free exchange, which only occurs when all transacting parties see a maximum of benefit relative to all other alternatives. Any coerced (or fraudulent, as in Madoff’s case) transaction averages out to be zero sum (in other words, there is a Taker) – this is why government cannot be said to produce anything: forced transactions can only transfer (divert!) what has been earned (created!) between private parties through willing exchange.
Of course, there is always a degree of reciprocity involved in any human activity. We usually reap something of what we sow, even if the exchange isn’t always equitable.
There are those, however, who amass huge fortunes
without working for them. In the case of people like Richard Fuld, Michael Milkin, Ivan Boesky, they will live to enjoy the benefits of the lucre they have taken off the hands of those who sweat for their daily bread.
They have escaped any real justice for their misdeeds, and the saddest part is that we praise a judicial system which makes that not only possible, but predictable.
I Loved the brilliant article on medoff.
Lew rockwell for President please.
Please have a mises three-day seminar here in New England.we need it, especially in Massachusetts.
Is there something wrong with the Madoff “confession” ?
Did the WTC fall because the battleship grade hi-strength steel 6″ thick got “tired”?
Madoff’s marketing was, in its’ latter-day versions, nothing if not sophisticated, and to some of the most sophisticated purchasers on the planet. And we’re to believe that of the hundreds and hundreds of these hi-grade customers, not ONE did ANY due diligence… Come on people! Get real! There was NO “fraud” as had there been it would have come up in all the due diligence checks over decades…
The explanation of the supposed fraud lies elsewhere. Read the IRS regulations for a hint.
Felice Navidad to all
M. G.
This is the first writing by Lew Rockwell that I find fault with. Money spent to make money is not consumer spending. It is capital spending. This is true no matter how foolish the capital expenditure may be. (Buyers of houses for the last decade or two have usually not been able to say whether their expenditure was a capital or a consumer expenditure and have ended up regarding it as both at the same time–a big mistake). A worker in a factory is not contributing more to its productiivity than someone who pays for shares in the factory. The buyer of shares is contributing his time and effort to it no less than an employee of the factory–when the buyer buys with anything that can be considered real money–since real money is time and effort in stored form. In this article, Lew Rockwell has picked up the pernicious habit of referring to “we” just as the politician does–to obscure the important difference between the rulers and the ruled.
“Money spent to make money is not consumer spending. It is capital spending.”
Well, in the case of Madoff, the investor in his scheme thought it was capital spending, but instead it was being used for a certain amount of consumption. I don’t think much because Ponzi schemes require that old investors be paid off. It could be that Madoff siphoned of only a small percentage for the personal consumption of himself and his employees.
“Buyers of houses for the last decade or two have usually not been able to say whether their expenditure was a capital or a consumer expenditure and have ended up regarding it as both at the same time–a big mistake”
It’s perfectly possible for it to be both. Likewise it is perfectly possible for a good to be both a close to consumption consumer good, and a capital good. It depends on how it is used. Use Gas to drive your car to the store, and it’s a consumptive good. Use it to drive to work, or to drive machinery at work, and it’s a capital good.
Heck, lemonade is a capital good if you are supplying it to your workers.
“to obscure the important difference between the rulers and the ruled”
“We” are individually both investors and workers. “We” are individually “rulers” and “ruled”. You boss your kids around, right? You rule over producers with your spending, right?
Heck, we are individually, both criminals and victims, via the State when the state violates rights. We can’t avoid it without living in a cave.
Marsh Green,
“Come on people! Get real! There was NO “fraud” as had there been it would have come up in all the due diligence checks over decades…”
I’ve read that going back ten years there were concerns but the SEC did nothing. My question to you however is what makes you think their was no fraud.
My understanding is that some of the investors thought that Madoff was using true insider information (from people with fiduciary duties) to get his edge, and were willing to get in on the scam. Turns out he was cheating, but the investors misidentified the victims.
Are you claiming that this was not a Ponzi scheme? Based on what information? Or are you claiming that Ponzi schemes are not fraudulent merely on the basis that they are able to operated undetected for long periods of time, and able to sucker the sophisticated?
You either know something I don’t or are deducing things in a way I don’t find justified.
The posting by Mark is a most intelligent response to Rockwell’s article. The Gov’t achieved that savings–through stored money alone– were not possible. Stored money did not equal savings. Stored money became a wasting asset. –That is, one’s stored money was something that diminished in value, rather than something that maintained its value. Any person who wanted to maintain his true net worth had to go beyond merely storing his money. He had to take on some degree of risk (investment) as well. Here we have a semantic dilemma: In order to “save” (in the sense of maintining value of one’s accumulated money), one necessarily HAD to partake of non-saving behavior (risk). This is the first fact to notice in understanding the credit crisis.
Madoff and many of his victims were Jews, and thus monotheists, believers in God.
I also find this quote by Chesterton offensive. It’s a bigoted and false cliche about non-believers. People who don’t believe in God absolutely do not believe in “anything”, nor nothing.
In fact, it’s just the opposite. The conscience of many non-believers, their inability to believe in just “anything”, is exactly what lead them to reject a belief in God. This rejection is done both on a moral and an evidential basis.
Nor did non-believers ever claim to “believe in nothing”, as the cliche states. We merely don’t believe in particular claims for which there is no credible evidence, and plenty of evidence against, both empirically, and logically.
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