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Does God Bind or Unleash the King?

December 2, 2008 by

Carl Schmitt famously argued that the basic ideas of modern politics are secularized theological concepts, and Elshtain to a large extent agrees. In particular, she thinks, a change during the later Middle Ages in the notion of God’s omnipotence had immense significance for the state.

For Augustine and Thomas Aquinas, God acted in the world in strict accord with law. Human beings, by reason, could discern this law. This changed in the late medieval period. FULL ARTICLE


Matt December 2, 2008 at 9:43 am

“God” is often referred to as if this is an obvious and all agreed upon fact. However upon closer observation the numerous contradictions that appear in the proof of a “god’ are ignored in any writing or discussions on the subject.
What we have here is meaningless gibberish in an attempt to make sense of the world. Reason of course is given short shrift if any at all as I suspect in the book written by Elshtain. Though I do agree that even modern Democratic Governments rely heavily on religious doctrines (Self Sacrifice) in carrying-out and passing laws to bend the will of the public.

Rockne Johnson December 2, 2008 at 9:54 am

This commentary on rubbish was posted to the wrong mailing list.

StatusQuoJoe December 2, 2008 at 11:54 am

Mankind has always struggled with the concept of law we were created under the guidance of the law and even in our liberation from the law by faith in Christ our old nature will return to the dogmatic aspects of our former selves. Nothing accomplished this better than the decrees issued at the council of Nicea for there mankind decided on a formal definition of God in the model of the trinity.

In the person of Christ I truly see the trinity in operation, that is Christ was God the Holy Spirit and the Son but what about His death and resurrection? If you adhere strictly to the trinity then you must explain the death of Christ through multiple analytical paths entering into the dangerous realm of elevating theology or mankind’s understanding above God’s Word.

The truth is that as Christians we have been elevated to the position of God’s children as Christ was God’s Son and He even calls us brothers. He is King and we are His subjects in the spiritual realm however the spiritual realm operates differently than the physical realm by which our current understanding and logic operate. To explain the spiritual laws by fleshly reasoning is folly and is stifling the work of God’s Spirit in us from our birth and true inheritance in the Holy Spirit. True liberty comes from an understanding that in some miraculous way, re-birth from the Holy Spirit unites us to God in a way indescribable by human logic and will only be completely revealed until death and the receipt of our uncorrupted eternal bodies. In that state our spirit forever united with God’s Spirit could only be described by our current unlimited understanding as life.

If Christians truly understood our position as God’s children and we embraced this truth in its reality, we could change the course of human events in a manner similar to the early church. Read the accounts in the Book of Acts, the church with their understanding of their real position as God’s children grew at such an astronomical pace and included such miracles as to make all authorities other than the ultimate Authority tremble.

The council of Nicea did more to suppress true liberty than any other act by government or social thinking in history for it robbed the Body of Christ from its understanding of the union with the Holy Spirit replacing the truth that we are God’s Temple with a God who was forever separated from His children in a theoretical model of an ever existing distant trinity separate from us.

Examples of God’s attempt to relate this idea to His Body can be seen in the numerous parables of marriage (the two shall become one) and the Temple (God blessed the temple and dwelled within). The imagery goes on and on but I would be fighting nearly 1,700 years of accepted theology so most likely I am banging my head against a wall. It seems we have given up our liberty for a temporary bowl of stew for security in flesh bound thought.

Ken Zahringer December 2, 2008 at 2:40 pm

Matt and Rockne,

One need not believe in the Christian God in order to understand and appreciate this book. Elshtain is describing the socio-political process by which theological principles and concepts were hijacked and manipulated for the purpose of justifying tyranny. This process is quite real, and is still happening. Look at our recent election campaign. The only thing we didn’t hear from the Obama camp was “Let there be light”, and McCain was only slightly more restrained in his claims of what the almighty government could do for us. And so it goes.
This book is now near the top of my reading list. Thanks, David.

Bruce Koerber December 2, 2008 at 9:28 pm

To those interested in the threshold of economics and ethics I suggest reading “ETHICS of the Divine Economy” or the blog site (Divine Economy Ethics).

peter helbich December 2, 2008 at 9:29 pm

this is vienna austria. where it all began
mozart, menger, mises, hayek etc
send this theorem to all your friends and let it loose in the internet.
it proofs mathematically that the austrian school of economics is right.
regards peter helbich

James December 5, 2008 at 9:18 am

The visible world functions according to natural laws because of God’s design. However,as the creater, God can dispose of the laws of nature. Jesus could command the fish, the most inaccessable of creatures to bring the coin to peter.

The church is commanded to be in subjection to the higher powers, the powers that be are ordained of God. The church, instead of being separate from the world, settled itself in the world and usurped the authority of Kings.It has been unfaithfull to her true husband and has commited adultry with the world.

It was Napolean who took away from the Popes, the right to maintain standing armies and insisted on the separation of church and state.

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