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Our Stalin and Trotsky

November 9, 2008 by

Our democracy is really a one-party system split into two factions. There is the Democratic faction — call them Stalin since they are currently in power. And then there is the Republican faction — call them Trotsky since they are currently in political exile. As Murray N. Rothbard wrote:

Actually, despite the fascination of Western intellectuals with the Stalin-Trotsky schism, it was far more an intra-Bolshevik personal and factional squabble than any sort of ideological betrayal.

And as Mises noted:

The truth is that Trotsky found only one fault with Stalin: that he, Stalin, was the dictator and not himself, Trotsky. In their feud they both were right. Stalin was right in maintaining that his regime was the embodiment of socialist principles. Trotsky was right in asserting that Stalin’s regime had made Russia a hell.

Our Stalin and Trotsky are no different. They create faux ideological battlefields as the means to decide which faction receives the rent payments for the next four years. In the end, a coin flip would be just as effective: heads, Stalin gets the spoils; tails, Trotsky does. Regardless of the selection method or its outcome, our rent payment to the Treasury is still due as before.


newson November 10, 2008 at 2:34 am

slipping into hyperbole does nothing but frighten off newcomers to the austrian looking-glass. not even guantanamo could be counted as a gulag, however reprehensible it may be.

Book 'em Danno November 10, 2008 at 3:41 am

Will there be a time in the future when a more humane but tragically faulted system is lamentably described as “our Democrats and Republicans”?

A Dreamer November 10, 2008 at 3:49 am

I agree with Newson.

Bryan Edds November 10, 2008 at 4:03 am

Guantanamo and the Gulag – different in degree, same in principle.

Jim Fedako November 10, 2008 at 6:58 am

Newson and A Dreamer –

My apologies. The post was not meant to equate the actions of Stalin and Trotsky to our political parties. It was meant to equate the degree of ideological differences between Stalin and Trotsky (a supposed huge schism) with that between our parties (another supposed huge schism).

mahatma November 10, 2008 at 7:17 am

A little educational survey…

What govt. evil would it take for you to stop paying taxes in disgust?

1. Govt. take your money and uses it to lock up innocent people.
2. The govt. uses your money to lock up black people.
3. The govt. uses your money to murder brown people.
4. the govt. gives your tax money to their friends.
5. the govt. wastes your money on something stupid, or maybe just burns it.
6. the govt. spend your money on propaganda for higher taxes.
7. The govt. spends your money on brainwashing babies to torture puppies.
8. The govt. spends your money on researching about how the money really belongs to them.
9. The govt. “invests” your money in a ponzi scheme.
10. What taxes? I don’t pay any taxes!
11. I own a bank, the govt. pays ME taxes.
12. The govt. can do no evil, by definition all it does is good.
13. I’m too scared not to obey, the govt. has the biggest guns.
14. I can’t help it, they are in cahoots with my employer and withold it.
15. I work for the govt. Taxes are the price you pay for civilization.
16. Didn’t Jesus say I always had to pay taxes?
17. I’ll keep paying, but vote for whoever promises to do less evil.

(Etienne de la Boetie- discourse on voluntary servitude)

Curt Howland November 10, 2008 at 7:45 am

Brutal honesty time: 13.

newson November 10, 2008 at 7:50 am

to jim fedako:
i do agree with your point about the farcical distinction between trotsky and stalin.
and i agree that the difference between the major parties is slight and mainly rhetorical; both agendas point in the wrong direction, with the distinct possibility of creeping totalitarianism.
who knows? maybe the stupid and the evil party will bear out the comparison, but i hope not.

Joe November 10, 2008 at 8:04 am

Curt, I’m sorry to say, I’m with you: nº 13

Félix November 10, 2008 at 8:08 am

I would add:
18- They’ll just print the money or get into debt anyway… and then tax your children

fundamentalist November 10, 2008 at 8:53 am

People get really offended when I told them the choices in the last election was between socialist and socialist-lite. But it’s true.

D J Cook November 10, 2008 at 11:04 am

It’s much easier to call them the ins and the outs. They just trade places and continue their fraud. There will never be a political solution for anything. The free market must replace the coercive political system.

Franklin November 10, 2008 at 12:52 pm

Well said, DJ.

Reminds me of a recent movie entitled _Shooter_. Ned Beatty plays a murderous and corrupt senator who spitefully dismisses the movie’s noble hero, shouting at him (paraphrased), “This isn’t about Republicans and Democrats! This is about the haves and the have-nots!”

It’s amusing when Hollywood writers stumble upon reality now and then, because they don’t really mean it. The above quote notwithstanding, the movie is laced with the obligatory anti-Bush/Cheney theme running through its scenes. Under an Obama presidency, we will probably hear fewer of these cynical, anti-statist swipes.
A pity.

Tomás November 10, 2008 at 1:59 pm

I have to say, I’m No.14; I can’t wait to be making my own money.

DJCook November 10, 2008 at 3:13 pm

Thanks Franklin – I liked the movie too. Can’t wait for the new movies, I’m sure the pres and all his loyal goons will be made to look like the builders of society instead of the destroyers and looters that they really are.

DJCook November 10, 2008 at 3:16 pm

Thanks Franklin – I liked the movie too. Can’t wait for the new movies, I’m sure the pres and all his loyal goons will be made to look like the builders of society instead of the destroyers and looters that they really are.

Ned Netterville December 1, 2008 at 6:36 pm

mahatma, re: #16. No, in fact for the reasons enumerated in #1 thru #9, among others, Jesus said, “Don’t ever pay taxes!” See, http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/Page_7.html

The International April 27, 2009 at 7:46 pm

The ideological differences between Joseph Stalin and Leon Trotsky are huge! Stalin was a coward and only wanted to control whatever he could get control of. Trotsky was much more idealistic. Trotsky and Marx would agree with your anti governmental ideas. Marx believes one day we will basically evolve into people who can live in a communal society in peace. The U.S. polititians you complain about are nothing like Trotsky and Marx and that is a bad thing! I would never compare any of them to Stalin either. He was by far one of the worst rulers in history and was responsible for more deaths than Hitler. The U.S.S.R. is not what Marx had in mind at all and the way it was run by Stalin was not what Trotsky would have wanted at all.

The International April 27, 2009 at 7:52 pm

I didn’t read what jesus on taxes.com said, and I think you are being sarcastic but, Jesus said that we should give to caesar what is caesar’s. That does not mean that caesar deserves or is the owner of my hard earned money. He basically says you should live a communist life style.

Ned Netterville August 4, 2010 at 12:45 pm

Holy cow! I missed these comments by THE INTERNATIONAL, and I am over three months late in responding, but I do want to respond:

No, I was not being sarcastic when I said that Jesus said, “Don’t ever pay taxes.” Rather I was very seriously and with only a little hyperbole by paraphrasing what Jesus said and substituting what he obviously meant when he said, “Give Caesar what is Caesar’s, but give God what is God’s.” In order to understand what Jesus said and meant it is absolutely necessary to know what, according to Jesus, belongs to Caesar and what belongs to God. I am absolutely certain that in saying those words Jesus was relying on sacred Scripture’s oft-repeated statement (as, for example, in Psalms 24:1) that the earth and everything thereon belongs to God, which leaves nothing whatsoever for poor old Caesar. And nothing is what Jesus clearly said to give Caesar.

As for living a communist life style, I’m quite sure Jesus would not object if that life style could be accomplished without resorting to force. However, since communism embraces and relies on the violent State to accomplish its objectives, even though it claims the State will eventually wither away, I am certain that Jesus would condemn communism as it has been known to exist, and as called for by Karl Marx in The Communist Manifesto.

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