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Paying higher taxes is “patriotic”?

September 18, 2008 by

Democratic vice presidential candidate Joe Biden said Thursday that paying more in taxes is the patriotic thing to do for wealthier Americans. This is another example of our rulers attempting to brainwash us by re-defining taxation.


Richie September 18, 2008 at 9:59 am

Yeah, it’s just as patriotic as singing the national anthem and reciting the pledge or allegiance. In other words, praising the state. Country first, got that?

magnus September 18, 2008 at 10:26 am

This comment is only the set-up.

It implies a second line of argument, which we can assume is coming — stating that you want to pay less in taxes is unpatriotic.

And if it’s unpatriotic, then people ought not to call for lower taxes.

And if it’s wrong to call for lower taxes, then it ought to be illegal.

Inquisitor September 18, 2008 at 10:29 am

Indeed, siphoning off more cash to cynical elites is patriotic!

Peter September 18, 2008 at 10:56 am

And if it’s wrong to call for lower taxes, then it ought to be illegal.

Treason, in fact! Death penalty.

David Spellman September 18, 2008 at 11:58 am

A wide variety of people say it is patriotic to die for your country in a state promulgated war.

Is paying taxes better or worse on the patriotic scale that demanding that people lay down their very lives?

At least taxation is only partial life deprivation (or fractional slavery as the case may be).

So maybe Biden is being generous–he could call for the death of the rich and expropriation of their property like Cambodia, China, Russia, France, or Cuba?

C. Evans September 18, 2008 at 1:09 pm

There is a post on the blog Who’s Your Nanny? about this topic. Here’s a comment from one of the readers:
While “taxation without representation” was one of the rallying cries of the Revolution, the Declaration of Independence decries “taxation without consent.” But given that all politicians save Ron Paul have nothing but contempt for the Constitution, useless document it is, they would seethe with apoplectic fury if they ever read more than just “all men are created equal” in the Declaration. Even the first sentence condemns their statism:
“When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
I wonder how many people would sign the Declaration today.

What about the American Revolution? September 18, 2008 at 1:31 pm

The American Revolution was fought over taxes totalling 3% of the yearly output of the economy. The founders of this once great land felt that was too much to pay and according to Biden: They in an unpatriotic move rebelled against the British.

I guess the 34% max rate soon to be 37% (12 times that in the Revolution) just isn’t enough.

Brock September 18, 2008 at 2:07 pm

Mr. Biden,

Please review the principles that the United States (patriotism = “love for the United States”) was founded upon. It was not founded upon the ideal of a large central government; that was Lincoln, the grandpappy of the Democratic party.

It is becoming more and more apparent that anything liberals call “patriotic” or “American” are actually “unpatriotic” and “unAmerican”. Their usage of “patriotic” and “American” is for the sake of buzzwords to push through socialistic, anti-American policies.

P.M.Lawrence September 18, 2008 at 9:43 pm

Well, the American rebels were disloyal, and many of them were just using taxation without representation to hide behind. That said, had they not rebelled their projections for the future would probably have come to pass. The best outcome would have been, a negotiated peace with full autonomy but no outright victory for either side.

Peter September 18, 2008 at 10:13 pm

A wide variety of people say it is patriotic to die for your country in a state promulgated war.

If in some smothering dreams you too could pace
Behind the wagon that we flung him in,
And watch the white eyes writhing in his face,
His hanging face, like a devil’s sick of sin;
If you could hear, at every jolt, the blood
Come gargling from the froth-corrupted lungs,
Obscene as cancer, bitter as the cud
Of vile, incurable sores on innocent tongues,
My friend, you would not tell with such high zest
To children ardent for some desperate glory,
The old lie: dulce et decorum est
Pro patria mori.

Robert Heckel March 25, 2009 at 2:52 pm

Do not dilute or homogenize the concept of “patriotic” by attempting to define it in terms of taxation, Republican or Democrat, “right” or “left”. Let us all agree that patriotism is an entity unto itself, and stands solely for “love” for, or devotion to, one’s country.

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