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Quotes from the Founders for this Election Season

October 27, 2006 by

Chris Meisenzahl reminds us of these perspicacious statements from the founding fathers in the comments section of my recent post:

“Democracy is the most vile form of government…democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention: have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property: and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths.”

- James Madison

“Democracy… while it lasts is more bloody than either [aristocracy or monarchy]. Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There is never a democracy that did not commit suicide.”

- John Adams

If Mr. Madison and Mr. Adams were alive today they certainly would each have a quote endorsing Hans-Herman Hoppe’s Democracy: The God That Failed on the back cover of the book.

{ 13 comments }

Mark Brabson October 28, 2006 at 12:01 am

I concur with the sentiments regarding Democracy. Unfortunately, a poorly crafted Constitution and various scalawags have tranformed the United States from a Republic into a Democracy.

While the results of this election will have no effect in advancing the cause of liberty, it should be interesting nonetheless, from a prognosticating point of view and also from aspect of seriously damaging the fortunes of anti-liberty neo-conservatives and zionists. Of course, the Democrats that will likely replace them aren’t exactly friends of economic liberty, but preferable to neo-cons.

Could be a minor landslide.

+7 to Democrats in U.S. Senate
+30 to Democrats in U.S. House
+7 governorships to Democrats
+250-300 state legislature seat swing to Democrats
Democrats will likely pick up outright control of about 12 legislatures to increase their total to about 30 legislatures.

Again, I agree elections do little or nothing to promote liberty, but at least we can enjoy watching the Neo-conservatives go down in flames.

Your Elected Representative October 28, 2006 at 9:15 am

What are you talking about you freedom loving fools?

Your freedom is your freedom to make mistakes, to fail, to starve, to wander off cliffs, to buy high and sell low.

Reelect me and I will protect you from your worst enemy – YOURSELF! I will keep you safe by making freedom illegal. I will keep you happy by lying to you. I will create the illusion of prosperity by inflating the money supply and devaluing your savings in the greatest ponzi scheme the world has every known. I will create jobs by taking half your income in taxes and using that money to pay people to dig holes and fill them back up again. I will intervene to create the need for more intervention. I will improve the economy by breaking windows. I will drive industry and create purpose by starting endless foreign wars. I will stage attacks on our own shores in the name of the current enemy of the week to sow the fear necessary for you to give me the power to do what needs to be done.

Because after all, isn’t that what we all want? A strong leader to make us do things we didn’t have the courage to do ourselves.

Your freedom is your freedom to elect people like me.

Your’s Truly,
Your Elected Representative

Nick Bradley October 29, 2006 at 2:38 am

Mark Brabson,

How, exactly, are the Democrats in any way, shape, or form preferable to the Republicans? If you’re looking for a non-internventionist foriegn polcy, DO NOT look to the Democrats! The democrats are only against wars that they are not running. Even if a democratic takeover caused a withdrawal from Iraq (which is unlikely, and the Baker report will have a greater impact of the decision than anything else), that just means that we will be intervening elsewhere in the world. Goodbye Iraq, hello Sudan! Liberal dems have been carping for intervention in Darfur for months now. What makes you think they will act any different?

And the democrats are far worse on ALL domestic policies. The democrats are against personal liberties of any kind, unless they are part of the “liberation movement of the week”, such as granting a constitutional right to gay sex. And if you think the Patriot Act, etc. is “unbearable” for ya with a Republican in office, jsut wait until a democrat gets its hands on it. Hillary Clinton eavesdropping on the pro-life movement because they’re “terrorists”, perhaps? Also, the media will look the other way when the Democrats are running things, as long as it isn’t a juicyt sex sandal to boost ratings.

And where are you getting these absurd predictions of Democratic gains? Even the most optimistic Democrats don’t think they’ll pick up 7 Senate seats! And the GOP at the state level aren’t in as much trouble as the national party, lacking a clear link with disapproval of the Iraq War, Congressional pork projects, immigration, etc.

And the polls that the democrats and their acoltyes in the mainstream media are touting are worthless! Who cares what the popular vote for Congress is going to be? It’s irrelevant.

The only person to do an actual seat-by-seat poll is Michael Barone, and he’s predicting that the GOP will keep both Houses by 2 seats each.

Mark Brabson October 29, 2006 at 1:00 pm

Nick Bradley:

I don’t think I ever inferred that I desired the Democrats or think that they will do anything worthwhile. I am well aware of the rather loathsome policies of the Democrats. It was not, nor would it EVER be, my intention to promote Democratic candidates or policies in any way.

At the same time, I am well aware of the cancer of Neo-conservatism and Zionism that has sadly totally overwhelmed the Republican party. It is destroying this country, via aggressive wars and ever larger more authoritarian government. Will Democratic control of Congress solve the problem? Of course not, I am neither a fool nor naive enough to believe that. But a hostile Congress will at least handicap the Neo-conservatives in the administration and to that extent will be helpful.

My election predictions are predicated on EXTREMELY reliable sources. Dr. Sabato of the University of Virginia, Cook Political Report and other highly respected sources with PROVEN track records. I don’t pay attention to the generic polls. I do pay attention to likely turnout indicators and polls in key races. I know which polls to pay attention to and which to ignore.

There is always the chance that a major smackdown on the Republican Party could lead to a realignment. No, the chances are not good, but we can always hope.

And always remember, the Republicans took a major ass kicking in 1974, but by 1980 they were back with a vengeance. Politics is very transitory.

Nick Bradley October 29, 2006 at 8:30 pm

Does anybody else think that Don Robertson’s posts are worthless? They’re usually gibberish topped off by a plug for his art auction.

M E Hoffer October 29, 2006 at 8:38 pm

Nick,

You know it. It’s abusive.

Peter October 29, 2006 at 11:16 pm

Absolutely!

David White October 30, 2006 at 7:52 am

Ditto. What a self-important bore this man is.

jeffrey October 30, 2006 at 8:10 am

Sorry about that folks. He’s gone.

RogerM October 30, 2006 at 8:59 am

Vote for Gridlock! We can trust neither Republicans nor Democrats to do the right thing. The best governments we have had were those in which the Congress and Presidency were controlled by opposing parties. Even though they are very similar in their policies, Republicans and Democrats hate each other. As a result, each side will block most of the legislation of the other side.

Gridlock is not progress, which would involve dismantling much of the federal government, but at least it prevents the situation from getting worse. My preference is for a Democratic Congress and Republican President, but I’ll take the opposite with complaint.

Mark Brabson October 30, 2006 at 9:49 am

RogerM:

Of course, there is one very frightening, but at the same time very amusing aspect to all this. Speaker Pelosi. That is the amusing aspect. Second in line to the Presidency Pelosi. That is the frightening aspect. I think a Democratic Congress will grate on the American public very fast, particularly if the Democrats pick up the Presidency in 2008 and I wouldn’t be at all suprised to see one or both houses swing back to Republican control by 2010. The likely composition of the incoming Democratic caucus is far more liberal than what is was when the Democrats last controlled Congress and while liberals won’t compose a majority in Congress, they will be very close. Between the likes of Pelosi, Rangel, Bernie Sanders, Kennedy, etc, I don’t think Democratic control will last too long.

Vince Daliessio October 30, 2006 at 2:22 pm

It has only to last long enough to impeach and convict to be worthwhile.

RogerM October 30, 2006 at 2:44 pm

Mark:”Between the likes of Pelosi, Rangel, Bernie Sanders, Kennedy, etc, I don’t think Democratic control will last too long.”

I think you’re right. The Democratic leadership is so extreme that they scare the average voter. Until Austrian ideas become more popular in the country, we’ll have to help out the Democrats by convincing people we need them to keep the Republicans under control. We need to keep the Republicans and Democrats at each other’s throats so they can’t pass any legislation. It could keep us from bombing Iran, too!

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