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	<title>Comments on: 12&#162; Hamburgers and $600 Cars</title>
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		<title>By: Kevin Breen</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105656</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Breen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Oct 2006 17:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[According to the Associated Press Article on foxnews.com that professor Brandley linked to in &quot;Don&#039;t Believe Those Inflation Numbers,&quot; the bureau of labor statistics reported that the price index was an inaccurate measure 24 percent of the time between 1986 and 2005. The BLS may have made an effort keep that statistic low, and I don&#039;t know the figures used to calculate this one, but it seems high given the constant reporting methodology.

In any circumstances, prices on cars are difficult to compare because &quot;top of the lineâ€ cars from different time periods are different products with different features. This is, of course, directly related to the statement Mr. Gladish made above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to the Associated Press Article on foxnews.com that professor Brandley linked to in &#8220;Don&#8217;t Believe Those Inflation Numbers,&#8221; the bureau of labor statistics reported that the price index was an inaccurate measure 24 percent of the time between 1986 and 2005. The BLS may have made an effort keep that statistic low, and I don&#8217;t know the figures used to calculate this one, but it seems high given the constant reporting methodology.</p>
<p>In any circumstances, prices on cars are difficult to compare because &#8220;top of the lineâ€ cars from different time periods are different products with different features. This is, of course, directly related to the statement Mr. Gladish made above.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian Gladish</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105526</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian Gladish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:10:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;p&gt;Nick,&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The many improvements/changes mandated by the state have increased the price of automobiles beyond the level of inflation (and made them a maintenance nightmare).  Of course this is one of the big problems with inflation calculation as it is no small problem to factor in the impact of product revisions.&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick,</p>
<p>The many improvements/changes mandated by the state have increased the price of automobiles beyond the level of inflation (and made them a maintenance nightmare).  Of course this is one of the big problems with inflation calculation as it is no small problem to factor in the impact of product revisions.</p>
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		<title>By: George Gaskell</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105507</link>
		<dc:creator>George Gaskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 06:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I don&#039;t think houses have changed that much [since 1959] as far as utility and comfort to the user is concerned.&lt;/i&gt;

The square footage of the average house has increased over 100% since 1950, and more than 50% since 1975.  

At the same time, the number of persons per household has declined from nearly 3.5 in 1950 to less than 2.5 today.  


&lt;i&gt;Under our current medium of exchange - the electronic banking system - &quot;money&quot; functions as an IOU and not as a storage of a hard asset.&lt;/i&gt;

And what, under this IOU, does one owe? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I don&#8217;t think houses have changed that much [since 1959] as far as utility and comfort to the user is concerned.</i></p>
<p>The square footage of the average house has increased over 100% since 1950, and more than 50% since 1975.  </p>
<p>At the same time, the number of persons per household has declined from nearly 3.5 in 1950 to less than 2.5 today.  </p>
<p><i>Under our current medium of exchange &#8211; the electronic banking system &#8211; &#8220;money&#8221; functions as an IOU and not as a storage of a hard asset.</i></p>
<p>And what, under this IOU, does one owe? </p>
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		<title>By: billwald</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105493</link>
		<dc:creator>billwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 05:07:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I apologize to citizens of Mississippi. I meant (another state). 

Under our current medium of exchange - the electronic banking system - &quot;money&quot; functions as an IOU and not as a storage of a hard asset. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize to citizens of Mississippi. I meant (another state). </p>
<p>Under our current medium of exchange &#8211; the electronic banking system &#8211; &#8220;money&#8221; functions as an IOU and not as a storage of a hard asset. </p>
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		<title>By: Mark Brabson</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105477</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Brabson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 03:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As an aside:

The money supply in a free economy doesn&#039;t have to be gold, silver, platinum, copper or anything else.  You can trade in tobacco, grain or anything else.  The market will choose its own best medium of exchange.  If a bank or other institution chooses to coin &quot;money&quot; than the market would be free to accept or reject such coins.  The tendency over time would be for any medium of exchange to appreciate in value, creating the effect of a steady or slightly declining price level.

For international trade, necessity would dictate use of gold or silver for such trade, with a fixed exchange rate, based on weight of coinage.

What is needed is for government to take their central banks and butt out.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside:</p>
<p>The money supply in a free economy doesn&#8217;t have to be gold, silver, platinum, copper or anything else.  You can trade in tobacco, grain or anything else.  The market will choose its own best medium of exchange.  If a bank or other institution chooses to coin &#8220;money&#8221; than the market would be free to accept or reject such coins.  The tendency over time would be for any medium of exchange to appreciate in value, creating the effect of a steady or slightly declining price level.</p>
<p>For international trade, necessity would dictate use of gold or silver for such trade, with a fixed exchange rate, based on weight of coinage.</p>
<p>What is needed is for government to take their central banks and butt out.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 02:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Constant money supply?&quot; I thought that under a gold standard, the money supply would increase at a rate consistent with gold production, which is roughly equivalent to the rate of population growth.
Also, I don&#039;t see the point in mentioning that automobiles are better made today than in 1959, unless there is some link between technological innovation and monetary growth. You&#039;d have a harder time arguing that houses are built better today than before.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Constant money supply?&#8221; I thought that under a gold standard, the money supply would increase at a rate consistent with gold production, which is roughly equivalent to the rate of population growth.<br />
Also, I don&#8217;t see the point in mentioning that automobiles are better made today than in 1959, unless there is some link between technological innovation and monetary growth. You&#8217;d have a harder time arguing that houses are built better today than before.</p>
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		<title>By: David White</title>
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		<dc:creator>David White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[billwald:

You&#039;re welcome to insult the state of Mississippi (where my wife was born and raised and one brother now lives), but all it does is expose your ignorance about the South.  The Mises Institute, after all, is headquartered in Alabama.  

On second thought, this makes perfect sense, as your ignorance about both goes hand in hand.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>billwald:</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome to insult the state of Mississippi (where my wife was born and raised and one brother now lives), but all it does is expose your ignorance about the South.  The Mises Institute, after all, is headquartered in Alabama.  </p>
<p>On second thought, this makes perfect sense, as your ignorance about both goes hand in hand.</p>
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		<title>By: H. Galley</title>
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		<dc:creator>H. Galley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Oct 2006 01:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[OFF TOPIC
Don, do you happen to suffer from temporal lobe epilepsy?  If you are not sure, I would kindly suggest you visit a physician who can diagnose such things.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OFF TOPIC<br />
Don, do you happen to suffer from temporal lobe epilepsy?  If you are not sure, I would kindly suggest you visit a physician who can diagnose such things.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Odell Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samuel Odell Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 20:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How much would a typical house of 1,000 sq. ft. cost in 1959?  In the West Coast?  East Coast?  Mideast?  South?  Etc.  In terms of typical worker&#039;s hourly wages?

I don&#039;t think houses have changed that much as far as utility and comfort to the user is concerned.

Sure, things like furnaces and ovens are more energy efficient nowadays, but I&#039;d guess they don&#039;t affect the wallet too much.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How much would a typical house of 1,000 sq. ft. cost in 1959?  In the West Coast?  East Coast?  Mideast?  South?  Etc.  In terms of typical worker&#8217;s hourly wages?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think houses have changed that much as far as utility and comfort to the user is concerned.</p>
<p>Sure, things like furnaces and ovens are more energy efficient nowadays, but I&#8217;d guess they don&#8217;t affect the wallet too much.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 19:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;So be it. I know I the pain I can cause some. Thinking is hard.&lt;/i&gt;

Nevertheless, if you&#039;re going to keep posting here, you might at least make an attempt!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>So be it. I know I the pain I can cause some. Thinking is hard.</i></p>
<p>Nevertheless, if you&#8217;re going to keep posting here, you might at least make an attempt!</p>
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		<title>By: Publius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Publius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 18:20:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Whoa! Way cool!

Only I went back a bit further.

Assuming consistent money supply...

A spiffy 1925 Hudson Sedan would cost only $217 today.

Don&#039;t know about a burger, but a &quot;Sunday Chicken Dinner&quot; in a nice family restaurant would be about 11 cents today (13 cents with tip!)

And today you could nail a roomy 3 bedroom house in New Jersey for under $1000!

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whoa! Way cool!</p>
<p>Only I went back a bit further.</p>
<p>Assuming consistent money supply&#8230;</p>
<p>A spiffy 1925 Hudson Sedan would cost only $217 today.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t know about a burger, but a &#8220;Sunday Chicken Dinner&#8221; in a nice family restaurant would be about 11 cents today (13 cents with tip!)</p>
<p>And today you could nail a roomy 3 bedroom house in New Jersey for under $1000!</p>
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		<title>By: Nick Bradley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick Bradley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 16:51:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I looked around online and I found out that a top-of-the-line car (cadillac, corvette, etc.) in the mid-1960s ran about $4,000. According to the CPI, that car would go for about $26,000 nowadays. However, a 2007 Corvette goes for $44,000 (entry level), with the covertable starting at the suped-up Z06 starts in the $70,000s. One guy wrote online that his 1970 Nova (with everything, V8, A/C, etc.) cost him $2,000 off the lot. That car should cost $10,500 today, but I doubt there is anything comparable.
&lt;p&gt;
So, I see a big discrepancy between the CPI and what prices actually are nowadays. Comparing the official government CPI calculator and the official housing price calculator, housing prices are 78% higher than they should be (comparing 1975 to 2006). 
&lt;p&gt;
What gives? My hunch is that inflation has been grossly underreported for decades. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked around online and I found out that a top-of-the-line car (cadillac, corvette, etc.) in the mid-1960s ran about $4,000. According to the CPI, that car would go for about $26,000 nowadays. However, a 2007 Corvette goes for $44,000 (entry level), with the covertable starting at the suped-up Z06 starts in the $70,000s. One guy wrote online that his 1970 Nova (with everything, V8, A/C, etc.) cost him $2,000 off the lot. That car should cost $10,500 today, but I doubt there is anything comparable.</p>
<p>
So, I see a big discrepancy between the CPI and what prices actually are nowadays. Comparing the official government CPI calculator and the official housing price calculator, housing prices are 78% higher than they should be (comparing 1975 to 2006).
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<p>
What gives? My hunch is that inflation has been grossly underreported for decades. </p>
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		<title>By: George Thomas Kysor</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Thomas Kysor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 15:21:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#039;s geocity links should end in &quot;html&quot; instead of &quot;com&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;s geocity links should end in &#8220;html&#8221; instead of &#8220;com&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: greg</title>
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		<dc:creator>greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 14:34:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&gt; &lt;i&gt;My education in economics is meager,...&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;

Gee, no kidding?  You could make your posts shorter if you dispensed with the obvious.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don> <i>My education in economics is meager,&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Gee, no kidding?  You could make your posts shorter if you dispensed with the obvious.</p>
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		<title>By: George Thomas Kysor</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105429</link>
		<dc:creator>George Thomas Kysor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 11:53:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Did you know that today you can legally see (in streaming video) a full-screen (you have to click on the full-screen icon) first-run , full-length (one hour, 49 minutes) Movie/Documentary entitled &lt;i&gt;FREEDOM TO FASCISM&lt;/i&gt; by Aaron Russo absolutely free at &lt;a href=&quot;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&amp;q=freedom+to+fascism&amp;hl=en&quot;&gt;Google Video&lt;/a&gt;? It&#039;s about the Federal Reserve and the unconstitutional Federal Income Tax on one&#039;s salary. Both parts make for a good background to this dscussion; going off the gold standard with the Fed in charge necessitated unconstitutionally collecting a tax from wage earners. About the only objection I have to the documentary is Russo&#039;s emphasis that, in the absence of the Fed, the government itself should &quot;regulate&quot; the money supply, but he nevertheless does cite the argument for a gold standard. Hey, since the movie is free, why not pay a teenager $5 to watch it? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&amp;q=freedom+to+fascism&amp;hl=en]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you know that today you can legally see (in streaming video) a full-screen (you have to click on the full-screen icon) first-run , full-length (one hour, 49 minutes) Movie/Documentary entitled <i>FREEDOM TO FASCISM</i> by Aaron Russo absolutely free at <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&#038;q=freedom+to+fascism&#038;hl=en">Google Video</a>? It&#8217;s about the Federal Reserve and the unconstitutional Federal Income Tax on one&#8217;s salary. Both parts make for a good background to this dscussion; going off the gold standard with the Fed in charge necessitated unconstitutionally collecting a tax from wage earners. About the only objection I have to the documentary is Russo&#8217;s emphasis that, in the absence of the Fed, the government itself should &#8220;regulate&#8221; the money supply, but he nevertheless does cite the argument for a gold standard. Hey, since the movie is free, why not pay a teenager $5 to watch it? <a href="http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&#038;q=freedom+to+fascism&#038;hl=en" rel="nofollow">http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4312730277175242198&#038;q=freedom+to+fascism&#038;hl=en</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jordan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105421</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just wondering:

The $600/$0.12 in terms of 1959 dollars, correct?

If we re-adjust for the 6.7x that the price level has increased since 1959, then that would be about $4000/car, $0.80/hamburger, using 2005 dollars, correct?

So, what I&#039;m saying here, is although the car may cost $600 and the hamburger $0.12 with a steady money supply (since 1959), it would &lt;i&gt;feel like&lt;/i&gt; paying $4000 for the car and $0.80 for the hamburger to put it in more-familiar 2005 terms.  I know this assumes a lot, but just trying to make it more familiar (since I wasn&#039;t alive in 1959).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wondering:</p>
<p>The $600/$0.12 in terms of 1959 dollars, correct?</p>
<p>If we re-adjust for the 6.7x that the price level has increased since 1959, then that would be about $4000/car, $0.80/hamburger, using 2005 dollars, correct?</p>
<p>So, what I&#8217;m saying here, is although the car may cost $600 and the hamburger $0.12 with a steady money supply (since 1959), it would <i>feel like</i> paying $4000 for the car and $0.80 for the hamburger to put it in more-familiar 2005 terms.  I know this assumes a lot, but just trying to make it more familiar (since I wasn&#8217;t alive in 1959).</p>
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		<title>By: George Gaskell</title>
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		<dc:creator>George Gaskell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 10:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It appears to be an 1964 Aston Martin DB5, the car that appeared in &lt;i&gt;Goldfinger&lt;/i&gt;.  About 1000 were made, and only a handful original examples remain in existence. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It appears to be an 1964 Aston Martin DB5, the car that appeared in <i>Goldfinger</i>.  About 1000 were made, and only a handful original examples remain in existence. </p>
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		<title>By: Scott D</title>
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		<dc:creator>Scott D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 09:06:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don R., 

First off, just about every post you leave here drips with condescension. You might want to tone that down a bit if your goal is to persuade. It gives you the air of a grouchy crank.

Secondly, your point is valid to some extent about the need to compare other data to get a more complete picture, but I think that you overstate the case. The effects of inflation upon real wages and living standards might not be apparent to the newbie economist, but there are plenty of articles here that cover that subject in some depth. What is not so obvious is the degree to which inflation has been occurring, since increases in productivity serve to hide its effects.

Thirdly, I&#039;m curious to know what your stand is upon Austrian economics (just the economics, mind you, not sociology, ie. Rothbard), which does reject much of the empiricism of mainstream economics as fallacious and ultimately self-defeating. I&#039;ve watched you take some pot shots from the sidelines and it makes me wonder why you&#039;re really here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don R., </p>
<p>First off, just about every post you leave here drips with condescension. You might want to tone that down a bit if your goal is to persuade. It gives you the air of a grouchy crank.</p>
<p>Secondly, your point is valid to some extent about the need to compare other data to get a more complete picture, but I think that you overstate the case. The effects of inflation upon real wages and living standards might not be apparent to the newbie economist, but there are plenty of articles here that cover that subject in some depth. What is not so obvious is the degree to which inflation has been occurring, since increases in productivity serve to hide its effects.</p>
<p>Thirdly, I&#8217;m curious to know what your stand is upon Austrian economics (just the economics, mind you, not sociology, ie. Rothbard), which does reject much of the empiricism of mainstream economics as fallacious and ultimately self-defeating. I&#8217;ve watched you take some pot shots from the sidelines and it makes me wonder why you&#8217;re really here.</p>
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		<title>By: mikey</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105411</link>
		<dc:creator>mikey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:31:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actally it&#039;s an Aston Martin.An Austin is a more downscale English car held together with wet string and wishfull thinking.
(Long-suffering Austin owner)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actally it&#8217;s an Aston Martin.An Austin is a more downscale English car held together with wet string and wishfull thinking.<br />
(Long-suffering Austin owner)</p>
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		<title>By: Don Robertson</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5802/12-hamburgers-and-600-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-105407</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Robertson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Oct 2006 07:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mark Brandly&#039;s analysis is empirical wizardry, leaving me the opportunity to expand by asking within his virtual framework...

Incomes?  The data is there to make a comparison within this empirical framework, and even to show us how clever empirical economics is, so why is income left out of the picture?

Standards of living?

The data is not there, and really, that is what we&#039;re all interested in, isn&#039;t it?  Economics means nothing, if we cannot measure how well we live on this particular spot on the planet, and indeed, how well those who will follow us in the future will live here as well.

If we, or they, all die due to the rapacious apetite of an economy out of control demanding ever more of the very essense of sustenance to feed economic growth , the cleverest empirical analysis of the &quot;data&quot; will not mean did-ily-squat.

That&#039;s sure a fine Austin though.  I bet is cost less than $2500 in 1959.

Come back Mark Brandly, and bring us more pictures of such fine automobiles.

Don Robertson, The American Philosopher]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Brandly&#8217;s analysis is empirical wizardry, leaving me the opportunity to expand by asking within his virtual framework&#8230;</p>
<p>Incomes?  The data is there to make a comparison within this empirical framework, and even to show us how clever empirical economics is, so why is income left out of the picture?</p>
<p>Standards of living?</p>
<p>The data is not there, and really, that is what we&#8217;re all interested in, isn&#8217;t it?  Economics means nothing, if we cannot measure how well we live on this particular spot on the planet, and indeed, how well those who will follow us in the future will live here as well.</p>
<p>If we, or they, all die due to the rapacious apetite of an economy out of control demanding ever more of the very essense of sustenance to feed economic growth , the cleverest empirical analysis of the &#8220;data&#8221; will not mean did-ily-squat.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s sure a fine Austin though.  I bet is cost less than $2500 in 1959.</p>
<p>Come back Mark Brandly, and bring us more pictures of such fine automobiles.</p>
<p>Don Robertson, The American Philosopher</p>
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