1. Cascade-consisting of Northern Counties, 2.8 Million people
2. California-consisting of Sacramento, Stockten and Modesto areas, 2.4 Million people
3. Cisco-consisting of San Francisco Bay area, 6.0 Million people
4. Sequoia-consisting of central western counties, 2.0 Million
5. Padre-consisting of central coastal counties, 2.5 Million
6. Angeles-consisting of Los Angeles county, almost 10.0 Million
7. Mojave-consisting of San Bernandino, Orange and Riverside counties, 6.6 Million
8. Diego-consisting of San Diego and Imperial counties, 3.0 Million

Nice thing is it gets those poor rural Californian’s out from under the thumb of those MoonBats in San Francisco and statists in Los Angeles.

I would move to Cascade if it came into being.

If California were split into five or six states, or Florida into two, then while that would certainly be an improvement in terms of competition, each of those states would still be roughly in line with the size of most states around the world — which from a libertarian standpoint (even a minarchist one, assume) is still way too big. Look how centralised and control-freaky most nation-states that size already are. I’m not even talking about the really nastily oppressive states, just the mild-mannered ossified micromanaging bureaucracies like, well, France.

By contrast, imagine that the average state were no larger than Liechtenstein, Hong Kong, Monaco, or Andorra. The degree of competition among states would be so high then that it would be MUCH harder for individual governments to get away with too much control.

The original Confederate Constitution and the revised proposals, all have clauses specifically designed to combat mercantilism. They are not perfect by any means, but better than the current U.S. Constitution.

I would like the U.S. returned to something similar to the Articles of Confederation. A free trade sphere if you will. One centralized entity to handle foreign relations on behalf of the states, control the nuclear weaponry and to have a small, defensive Army and Navy. Return to having a United States in Congress Assembled. Each state would have one vote.

As for breaking the states themselves down, that is definately a thought. Particularly California, which badly needs to be broken down into about four, five or six separate states. Florida could probably be split into two parts. Other states could probably stand to be divided.

To P. M. Lawrence: I didn’t know that Caesar and Pompey had anything to do with Barbados.

To Mark Brabson: Apart from explicitly protecting slavery (hopefully the movement you’re referring to drops that bit?), the Confederate Constitution is by and large a copy of the U.S. Constitution. Given that the U.S. Constitution has been unable to prevent the growth of centralised statism, it’s hard to see why we should get excited about a second iteration of it. I’d rather see states secede as individual nations — and then we could work on breaking the states down into independent counties ….

“Thus perish all compromise with tyranny!”

If such a thing doesn’t necessarily imply secession, then I’d like to know what does.

My understanding is he opposed the Constitution because he thought it protected slavery; and indeed he advocated Northern secession because of this–so he must have thought states had a right to secede.