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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-717928</link>
		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:52:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I will go back to manhattan&quot;

That will be awesome. You do that and we&#039;ll eliminate the &quot;Commerce Clause&quot; and close the New York central bank (ending the war machine then should go without saying) and we&#039;ll see how you do.

And Lisa, assuming you&#039;re still alive, this Union shill may not think you&#039;re poor, but he sure thinks you&#039;re stupid, don&#039;t he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I will go back to manhattan&#8221;</p>
<p>That will be awesome. You do that and we&#8217;ll eliminate the &#8220;Commerce Clause&#8221; and close the New York central bank (ending the war machine then should go without saying) and we&#8217;ll see how you do.</p>
<p>And Lisa, assuming you&#8217;re still alive, this Union shill may not think you&#8217;re poor, but he sure thinks you&#8217;re stupid, don&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: ginny</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-717920</link>
		<dc:creator>ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh this is so stupid, I will go back to manhattan, all stores are packed, I lived there, I made good money and most were making good money and stores were high and people earned good money spent their money in their stores, now I move to Tn, where there are tons of stores for lease empty because they cannot compete with Walmart. If grocers and Businesses were broken up into individual units like in the old days. In manhattan you can find a butcher, a florist on one corner, a restaurant, a baker, it is wonderful. The is democracy, I see Manhattan as democracy, all people are able to earn good money and spend that money, their are plenty of jobs, the rest of America has walmart, Target imagine a world where everyone could own a small store and people could visit for flowers or cake. I have not seen one bakery here, why because Walmart has one, flower store went under, Walmart has that too, etc. Break up these stores and America will truly rock like it did in America before the advent of the grocery store. I feel the rest of America could be like this if they brought back small stores and dismantled megastores. I remember the local hardware store too, mom and pop stores all gone, it is very sad.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh this is so stupid, I will go back to manhattan, all stores are packed, I lived there, I made good money and most were making good money and stores were high and people earned good money spent their money in their stores, now I move to Tn, where there are tons of stores for lease empty because they cannot compete with Walmart. If grocers and Businesses were broken up into individual units like in the old days. In manhattan you can find a butcher, a florist on one corner, a restaurant, a baker, it is wonderful. The is democracy, I see Manhattan as democracy, all people are able to earn good money and spend that money, their are plenty of jobs, the rest of America has walmart, Target imagine a world where everyone could own a small store and people could visit for flowers or cake. I have not seen one bakery here, why because Walmart has one, flower store went under, Walmart has that too, etc. Break up these stores and America will truly rock like it did in America before the advent of the grocery store. I feel the rest of America could be like this if they brought back small stores and dismantled megastores. I remember the local hardware store too, mom and pop stores all gone, it is very sad.</p>
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		<title>By: ginny</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-717915</link>
		<dc:creator>ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:31:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why don&#039;t you try a local grocer, why do you feel the need to give all your business to walmart. There prices are not that low actually, if you use coupon and take all your local store ads, I bet you can find it much cheaper somewhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why don&#8217;t you try a local grocer, why do you feel the need to give all your business to walmart. There prices are not that low actually, if you use coupon and take all your local store ads, I bet you can find it much cheaper somewhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: ginny</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-717911</link>
		<dc:creator>ginny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Aug 2010 14:16:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Walmart sucks, if you want to see a thriving economy visit Manhattan, thousands of stores all taking a piece of the pie, and walmart is not allowed. My grandfather had three butchers in the thirties, back then there was a baker, a butcher, variety every store had something. We should go back to those days and our economy would boom again, anyone could open a store and it would thrive because the prices were pretty regular. I opened a small store and I have no chance at beating walmart as far as suppliers. Even in rural areas people drive 1 hour to visist walmart then go to a local store for price, this is wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walmart sucks, if you want to see a thriving economy visit Manhattan, thousands of stores all taking a piece of the pie, and walmart is not allowed. My grandfather had three butchers in the thirties, back then there was a baker, a butcher, variety every store had something. We should go back to those days and our economy would boom again, anyone could open a store and it would thrive because the prices were pretty regular. I opened a small store and I have no chance at beating walmart as far as suppliers. Even in rural areas people drive 1 hour to visist walmart then go to a local store for price, this is wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: ben c</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-2/#comment-125858</link>
		<dc:creator>ben c</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Sep 2007 18:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this is a very interesting and well thought out article on this subject.  before i comment i want to say that i am definitly less than an amature in the feild of economics.   i tend to agree with the vast majority of what i have read and heard from Mr. Dilorenzo,  especially on the subject of Lincoln and the civil war.  I am not in favor of government intervention in most areas of life, especially business.   So i would agree that a government break up of Wal Mart would be absurd.  However,  i would say that the comments of one reader, Posted by: Mario Diana at July 19, 2006 11:27 AM, are very important to the discussion of wal mart.  i have heard many good arguments for why wal mart is a &quot;bad&quot; corporation for america.this one represented by lynn is not one of them.  

one that i see as a good argument has to with wal mart receiving benifits from local communities by having necessary infrastucture paid for by local goverments as well as other expenses.  while i agree that the government (local or national) should not hinder the growth of wal mart, i think it is fair that they should not aid in that growth either.  

that being said,  (and of course i am not privy to all of the details  of what goes on with wal mart and the local and federal governments) from what ive come to understand, wal mart would not be nearly as successfull as it has been without some form of &quot;corporate wellfare&quot; dolled out to them by these governments.    this is what bothers me.  i would be interested in reading  Mr. DiLorenzo discuss that aspect of wal mart.  a]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is a very interesting and well thought out article on this subject.  before i comment i want to say that i am definitly less than an amature in the feild of economics.   i tend to agree with the vast majority of what i have read and heard from Mr. Dilorenzo,  especially on the subject of Lincoln and the civil war.  I am not in favor of government intervention in most areas of life, especially business.   So i would agree that a government break up of Wal Mart would be absurd.  However,  i would say that the comments of one reader, Posted by: Mario Diana at July 19, 2006 11:27 AM, are very important to the discussion of wal mart.  i have heard many good arguments for why wal mart is a &#8220;bad&#8221; corporation for america.this one represented by lynn is not one of them.  </p>
<p>one that i see as a good argument has to with wal mart receiving benifits from local communities by having necessary infrastucture paid for by local goverments as well as other expenses.  while i agree that the government (local or national) should not hinder the growth of wal mart, i think it is fair that they should not aid in that growth either.  </p>
<p>that being said,  (and of course i am not privy to all of the details  of what goes on with wal mart and the local and federal governments) from what ive come to understand, wal mart would not be nearly as successfull as it has been without some form of &#8220;corporate wellfare&#8221; dolled out to them by these governments.    this is what bothers me.  i would be interested in reading  Mr. DiLorenzo discuss that aspect of wal mart.  a</p>
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		<title>By: beefcake the unsightly</title>
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		<dc:creator>beefcake the unsightly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:02:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: bold'un</title>
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		<dc:creator>bold'un</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is a basic fallacy in the logic of supermarkets (not only WMT) that buying power gives the right to the best prices.
In a commodities market, if someone wants to buy 1 contract of contract X, he will get a good price but  pay a large brokerage fee. But if someone wants to corner the market in contract X, he will need to pay ever higher prices. Between the two there is a sweet spot, perhaps 1000 contracts which can easily be handled in the daily volume but is large enough to qualify for a low brokerage. 
From the point of view of a supplier, giving the best price to an uncomfortably large customer is suboptimal because that will drive other customers who pay higher prices out of business as well as increasing the credit risk through concentration (remember Kmart in 2002!).
We have to get close to the idea of the law of the one price: a can of cola of Brand A should be the same price everywhere (though of course competing on price with Brands B, C and D).
How should that one price be fixed? Perhaps the dutch auction system on Ebay provides a model...
So to answer the question of splitting up WMT, I would say no, but the system of trade procurement of branded goods should be made more transparent and commoditized.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a basic fallacy in the logic of supermarkets (not only WMT) that buying power gives the right to the best prices.<br />
In a commodities market, if someone wants to buy 1 contract of contract X, he will get a good price but  pay a large brokerage fee. But if someone wants to corner the market in contract X, he will need to pay ever higher prices. Between the two there is a sweet spot, perhaps 1000 contracts which can easily be handled in the daily volume but is large enough to qualify for a low brokerage.<br />
From the point of view of a supplier, giving the best price to an uncomfortably large customer is suboptimal because that will drive other customers who pay higher prices out of business as well as increasing the credit risk through concentration (remember Kmart in 2002!).<br />
We have to get close to the idea of the law of the one price: a can of cola of Brand A should be the same price everywhere (though of course competing on price with Brands B, C and D).<br />
How should that one price be fixed? Perhaps the dutch auction system on Ebay provides a model&#8230;<br />
So to answer the question of splitting up WMT, I would say no, but the system of trade procurement of branded goods should be made more transparent and commoditized.</p>
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		<title>By: Wade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Jul 2006 06:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if some of Wal Mart&#039;s products have been deterioriating due to pricing pressures, what can we attribute these pricing pressures to other than the governments inflationary policies and Wal Mart&#039;s constant dedication to sell the same products for less to people on a low fixed income?  Who to blame for the deterioration of their own products, a company that is dependent on customers who don&#039;t have the convenience of a flexible income?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if some of Wal Mart&#8217;s products have been deterioriating due to pricing pressures, what can we attribute these pricing pressures to other than the governments inflationary policies and Wal Mart&#8217;s constant dedication to sell the same products for less to people on a low fixed income?  Who to blame for the deterioration of their own products, a company that is dependent on customers who don&#8217;t have the convenience of a flexible income?</p>
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		<title>By: beefcake the mighty</title>
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		<dc:creator>beefcake the mighty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Jul 2006 15:18:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mises.org is the Fox News of libertarianism.</p>
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		<title>By: M E Hoffer</title>
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		<dc:creator>M E Hoffer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 16:27:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[quincunx, 

Monopoly Lawn Care Services?  Where was that Paradise?

And, I&#039;m sure you&#039;d do McGyver proud!~  That Boy Scout training has paid ample dividends, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>quincunx, </p>
<p>Monopoly Lawn Care Services?  Where was that Paradise?</p>
<p>And, I&#8217;m sure you&#8217;d do McGyver proud!~  That Boy Scout training has paid ample dividends, no?</p>
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		<title>By: quincunx</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-2/#comment-98743</link>
		<dc:creator>quincunx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@pedro

&quot;If neither Wal-Mart nor Microsoft are monopolies, NO other corporation on Earth can possibly be.&quot;

Last I checked, my cable provider, water provider, heat provider, garbage collector, first-class mail deliverers, and electricity provider are all monopolies.  OK so not all of them have &#039;corp&#039; or &#039;inc&#039; in their name - but still. 

 Luckily, I no longer live in a town with a obligatory municipal (read: monopoly) lawn care service.

&quot;The unique abilities of capitalists to sink the future prospects of the U.S is clearly astounding!&quot;

Oh no, capitalists are terrible at sinking the economy themselves - one needs papa government for that kind of assistance. 

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I personally do not like to shop at WalMart, I have many better alternatives to choose from in my area. 

However, I view WalMart&#039;s 24-hour supercenter as an oasis when driving though unknown territory.  Seriously, how many places have all the tools necessary to built a decent and sturdy bong at 4am?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@pedro</p>
<p>&#8220;If neither Wal-Mart nor Microsoft are monopolies, NO other corporation on Earth can possibly be.&#8221;</p>
<p>Last I checked, my cable provider, water provider, heat provider, garbage collector, first-class mail deliverers, and electricity provider are all monopolies.  OK so not all of them have &#8216;corp&#8217; or &#8216;inc&#8217; in their name &#8211; but still. </p>
<p> Luckily, I no longer live in a town with a obligatory municipal (read: monopoly) lawn care service.</p>
<p>&#8220;The unique abilities of capitalists to sink the future prospects of the U.S is clearly astounding!&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh no, capitalists are terrible at sinking the economy themselves &#8211; one needs papa government for that kind of assistance. </p>
<p>&#8212;</p>
<p>I personally do not like to shop at WalMart, I have many better alternatives to choose from in my area. </p>
<p>However, I view WalMart&#8217;s 24-hour supercenter as an oasis when driving though unknown territory.  Seriously, how many places have all the tools necessary to built a decent and sturdy bong at 4am?</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Daliessio</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vince Daliessio</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faultolerant;

Why don&#039;t you write an article, using a consistent set of economic rules as a guideline, condemning Wal*Mart, or any other entity you desire, by making truthful, testable arguments, for us to criticize?

Or, at least, quit being a jackass. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faultolerant;</p>
<p>Why don&#8217;t you write an article, using a consistent set of economic rules as a guideline, condemning Wal*Mart, or any other entity you desire, by making truthful, testable arguments, for us to criticize?</p>
<p>Or, at least, quit being a jackass. </p>
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		<title>By: faultoelrant</title>
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		<dc:creator>faultoelrant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:42:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lisa says:

&quot;Faultolerant,
Thanks. I was just confirming my suspicions that you are, in fact, nothing but a troll. Don&#039;t complain about others &quot;whining&quot; when you do nothing but engage in immature name-calling. I will be ignoring you from now on and strongly urge others to do the same.&quot;

My, my for a PhD candidate you&#039;ve a surprisingly limited ability to do more than whine.  Maybe you should take a job at WMT....after all you&#039;re probably marginally qualified for it.  Only marginally.  Petulant whining child.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lisa says:</p>
<p>&#8220;Faultolerant,<br />
Thanks. I was just confirming my suspicions that you are, in fact, nothing but a troll. Don&#8217;t complain about others &#8220;whining&#8221; when you do nothing but engage in immature name-calling. I will be ignoring you from now on and strongly urge others to do the same.&#8221;</p>
<p>My, my for a PhD candidate you&#8217;ve a surprisingly limited ability to do more than whine.  Maybe you should take a job at WMT&#8230;.after all you&#8217;re probably marginally qualified for it.  Only marginally.  Petulant whining child.</p>
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		<title>By: pedro</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-98728</link>
		<dc:creator>pedro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If neither Wal-Mart nor Microsoft are monopolies, NO other corporation on Earth can possibly be. Why, after Republican dominance in every branch of government for several years, does the antritrust division not only exists but continues to pester the smaller companies?  ANSWER: Because the big corporations and their politicans want those regulations to remain in place.

Also, I am for Wal-Mart to continue extending its empire into every community. Thanks to its impeccable business practices of maximum profit no matter the consequences, Wal-Mart alone accounts for a third of the U.S. deficit with China, which also holds a pretty good portion of the country&#039;s external debt. The unique abilities of capitalists to sink the future prospects of the U.S is clearly astounding!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If neither Wal-Mart nor Microsoft are monopolies, NO other corporation on Earth can possibly be. Why, after Republican dominance in every branch of government for several years, does the antritrust division not only exists but continues to pester the smaller companies?  ANSWER: Because the big corporations and their politicans want those regulations to remain in place.</p>
<p>Also, I am for Wal-Mart to continue extending its empire into every community. Thanks to its impeccable business practices of maximum profit no matter the consequences, Wal-Mart alone accounts for a third of the U.S. deficit with China, which also holds a pretty good portion of the country&#8217;s external debt. The unique abilities of capitalists to sink the future prospects of the U.S is clearly astounding!</p>
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		<title>By: (8?Â»</title>
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		<dc:creator>(8?Â»</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 10:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amazing, all of these comments and none touched on my opinion, which is...
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Why did Mr. DiLorenzo constantly make the mischaracterization that Mr. Lynn &quot;fails to understand&quot; virtually everything?
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This is just the kind of apologist framing that totally distorts what I consider a much more truthful picture, which is that Mr. Lynn INTENTIONALLY mischaracterizes the ideas of others to his advantage. Which, from what I&#039;ve seen from other &quot;intellectuals&quot; is the basis for debate (the battle of psuedo ideas that pretends to mold them into better form).
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To state that Mr. Lynn &quot;fails to understand&quot; is to provide him cover while giving his comments more exposure, while ignoring the fact that he has an agenda and is on a mission.

To me this is a dangerous move, and has drawn Mr. DiLorenzo into the same trap as the sheeple who love to point out the &quot;failure of government&quot; to solve their pet problem du jour, while failing to realize themselves that the government works spectacularly well (but only for those who own it).
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If your gonna insult Mr. Lynn, you might as well do it in an honest fashion. I doubt that he got where he is by being dumb. He just knows very few people know anything about Adam Smith, and have never heard of &lt;i&gt;The Wealth of Nations&lt;/i&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing, all of these comments and none touched on my opinion, which is&#8230;</p>
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Why did Mr. DiLorenzo constantly make the mischaracterization that Mr. Lynn &#8220;fails to understand&#8221; virtually everything?
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This is just the kind of apologist framing that totally distorts what I consider a much more truthful picture, which is that Mr. Lynn INTENTIONALLY mischaracterizes the ideas of others to his advantage. Which, from what I&#8217;ve seen from other &#8220;intellectuals&#8221; is the basis for debate (the battle of psuedo ideas that pretends to mold them into better form).
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To state that Mr. Lynn &#8220;fails to understand&#8221; is to provide him cover while giving his comments more exposure, while ignoring the fact that he has an agenda and is on a mission.</p>
<p>To me this is a dangerous move, and has drawn Mr. DiLorenzo into the same trap as the sheeple who love to point out the &#8220;failure of government&#8221; to solve their pet problem du jour, while failing to realize themselves that the government works spectacularly well (but only for those who own it).
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If your gonna insult Mr. Lynn, you might as well do it in an honest fashion. I doubt that he got where he is by being dumb. He just knows very few people know anything about Adam Smith, and have never heard of <i>The Wealth of Nations</i>. </p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Torres</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-98718</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Torres</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 08:57:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Anyone who says that Wal-Mart has done great things for the poor and middle class is completely delusional. I am in the middle class and have relatives that would be considered poor. Some of them work at Wal-Mart and are still poor.&lt;/i&gt;

Non sequitur. Maybe they are poor not because they work at Walmart but because they are incapable of maintaining good finances.

Second, there is a serious misunderstanding of what us libertarians mean when we say that Walmart is good for the poor: we do not mean Walmart gives away buckets of money, but that it provides numerous goods at very accessible prices, many goods being so accessible that people of low income can now shift some of their resources towards other expenditures, instead of applying almost everything to food and clothing.

&lt;i&gt;
The primary difference between a Wal-Mart employee who is poor and any other worker that falls into that same distinction is that the Wal-Mart employee almost always has a worse benefits package to go with it.&lt;/i&gt;

Your error is in making a value judgement when saying Walmart offers a bad deal - it is a bad deal from YOUR point of view, but such things are entirely subjective, for what it may seem as disdainful to you may seem attractive to others. Nobody places a gun at those workers&#039; heads compeling them to accept less-than-preferable terms: like all other VOLUNTARY exchanges, they accepted the deal Walmart offers because they found it convenient.

&lt;i&gt;On top of being paid less than others in the retail industry&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;b&gt;Which&lt;/b&gt; others? Or should we take your word for it?

&lt;i&gt;... they generally have to put up with the worst management in the industry which tends to favor a bullying approach that discourages good employees.&lt;/i&gt;

I believe you are making a sweeping generalization.


&lt;i&gt;If you are a good employee at Wal-Mart you can expect to be rewarded with a $0.10 raise after several years of work. This actually happened to my aunt who is a CSM that has served in that position for over 7 years. Wal-Mart even dictates to her when she can take her UNPAID vacation.&lt;/i&gt;

Does Walmart dictate the same to all its employees, or just your aunt? What I think is that your aunt is probably just an adequate performer, thus compelling the company not to raise her salary - she being ever more expensive to keep.

&lt;i&gt;
In the town I live in, the city is putting in a new intersection and additional road surface to accommodate the new Wal-Mart Supercenter at great expense.&lt;/i&gt;

If it were a Tinseltown Multiplex or a Dillard&#039;s, would you feel just as outraged, or it is just because it is Walmart? Your quarrel should be with your local government and not Walmart.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Anyone who says that Wal-Mart has done great things for the poor and middle class is completely delusional. I am in the middle class and have relatives that would be considered poor. Some of them work at Wal-Mart and are still poor.</i></p>
<p>Non sequitur. Maybe they are poor not because they work at Walmart but because they are incapable of maintaining good finances.</p>
<p>Second, there is a serious misunderstanding of what us libertarians mean when we say that Walmart is good for the poor: we do not mean Walmart gives away buckets of money, but that it provides numerous goods at very accessible prices, many goods being so accessible that people of low income can now shift some of their resources towards other expenditures, instead of applying almost everything to food and clothing.</p>
<p><i><br />
The primary difference between a Wal-Mart employee who is poor and any other worker that falls into that same distinction is that the Wal-Mart employee almost always has a worse benefits package to go with it.</i></p>
<p>Your error is in making a value judgement when saying Walmart offers a bad deal &#8211; it is a bad deal from YOUR point of view, but such things are entirely subjective, for what it may seem as disdainful to you may seem attractive to others. Nobody places a gun at those workers&#8217; heads compeling them to accept less-than-preferable terms: like all other VOLUNTARY exchanges, they accepted the deal Walmart offers because they found it convenient.</p>
<p><i>On top of being paid less than others in the retail industry</i></p>
<p><b>Which</b> others? Or should we take your word for it?</p>
<p><i>&#8230; they generally have to put up with the worst management in the industry which tends to favor a bullying approach that discourages good employees.</i></p>
<p>I believe you are making a sweeping generalization.</p>
<p><i>If you are a good employee at Wal-Mart you can expect to be rewarded with a $0.10 raise after several years of work. This actually happened to my aunt who is a CSM that has served in that position for over 7 years. Wal-Mart even dictates to her when she can take her UNPAID vacation.</i></p>
<p>Does Walmart dictate the same to all its employees, or just your aunt? What I think is that your aunt is probably just an adequate performer, thus compelling the company not to raise her salary &#8211; she being ever more expensive to keep.</p>
<p><i><br />
In the town I live in, the city is putting in a new intersection and additional road surface to accommodate the new Wal-Mart Supercenter at great expense.</i></p>
<p>If it were a Tinseltown Multiplex or a Dillard&#8217;s, would you feel just as outraged, or it is just because it is Walmart? Your quarrel should be with your local government and not Walmart.</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa Casanova</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-98710</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa Casanova</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faultolerant,
Thanks. I was just confirming my suspicions that you are, in fact, nothing but a troll. Don&#039;t complain about others &quot;whining&quot; when you do nothing but engage in immature name-calling. I will be ignoring you from now on and strongly urge others to do the same.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faultolerant,<br />
Thanks. I was just confirming my suspicions that you are, in fact, nothing but a troll. Don&#8217;t complain about others &#8220;whining&#8221; when you do nothing but engage in immature name-calling. I will be ignoring you from now on and strongly urge others to do the same.</p>
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		<title>By: KB</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-98708</link>
		<dc:creator>KB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:40:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Faultolerant,

How exactly do you figure Wal-Mart sells only low quality stuff?  I mean, I can go and buy Tide Laundry Detergent at Wal-Mart and Charmin Toilet Paper.  Is there some luxury laundry detergent I don&#039;t know about?  Some cushier toilet paper?  As for your &quot;low-quality crap&quot;, I honestly think the quality of their own brands is superior to the national brand much of the time.  For instance, the Parent&#039;s Choice diapers leak less and fit better than Huggies or Pampers.  Of course, you can buy those at Wal-Mart so they must be cheap crap.  I also feel that the Member&#039;s Mark Paper Towels are preferable to Kleenex brand (which is the most expensive brand I&#039;ve seen).  How exactly does Wal-Mart sell only cheap crap anyway when they typically sell all of the national brands?  Now maybe in clothes and such, they&#039;re lower quality but you&#039;d have a real hard time convincing me in most of the other stuff...  Even with clothes though, I&#039;ve bought Dockers and Wranglers there before at half the price they sell for elsewhere.  Maybe those brands aren&#039;t &quot;uppity&quot; enough for you, though...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Faultolerant,</p>
<p>How exactly do you figure Wal-Mart sells only low quality stuff?  I mean, I can go and buy Tide Laundry Detergent at Wal-Mart and Charmin Toilet Paper.  Is there some luxury laundry detergent I don&#8217;t know about?  Some cushier toilet paper?  As for your &#8220;low-quality crap&#8221;, I honestly think the quality of their own brands is superior to the national brand much of the time.  For instance, the Parent&#8217;s Choice diapers leak less and fit better than Huggies or Pampers.  Of course, you can buy those at Wal-Mart so they must be cheap crap.  I also feel that the Member&#8217;s Mark Paper Towels are preferable to Kleenex brand (which is the most expensive brand I&#8217;ve seen).  How exactly does Wal-Mart sell only cheap crap anyway when they typically sell all of the national brands?  Now maybe in clothes and such, they&#8217;re lower quality but you&#8217;d have a real hard time convincing me in most of the other stuff&#8230;  Even with clothes though, I&#8217;ve bought Dockers and Wranglers there before at half the price they sell for elsewhere.  Maybe those brands aren&#8217;t &#8220;uppity&#8221; enough for you, though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Person</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-98705</link>
		<dc:creator>Person</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:27:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mark:  Those are great questions.  Now I have some for you:&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Who pays the &lt;b&gt;mom and pop&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; workers section 8 housing? &lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Who pays the &lt;b&gt;mom and pop&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; workers medicaid and health benefits?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Who pays the &lt;b&gt;mom and pop&#039;s&lt;/b&gt; workers transportation costs?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;

Who pays for their families primary day care centers(otherwise known as public schools) ?&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Wanna rethink that post, or should I connect the dots for you?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mark:  Those are great questions.  Now I have some for you:</p>
<p>Who pays the <b>mom and pop&#8217;s</b> workers section 8 housing? </p>
<p>Who pays the <b>mom and pop&#8217;s</b> workers medicaid and health benefits?</p>
<p>Who pays the <b>mom and pop&#8217;s</b> workers transportation costs?</p>
<p>Who pays for their families primary day care centers(otherwise known as public schools) ?</p>
<p>Wanna rethink that post, or should I connect the dots for you?</p>
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		<title>By: Yancey Ward</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/5342/should-wal-mart-be-broken-up/comment-page-1/#comment-98704</link>
		<dc:creator>Yancey Ward</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mark,

I agree completely.  Lets get rid of section 8 housing, medicaid, the highway funding, and the public schools. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mark,</p>
<p>I agree completely.  Lets get rid of section 8 housing, medicaid, the highway funding, and the public schools. </p>
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