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		<title>By: Jonathan M.F. Catalán</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809632</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan M.F. Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Courtois has been doing really well; a really good replacement to DeGea.  He&#039;s just unfortunate to be playing in a team with top players, but that for some reason cannot organize themselves in any meaningful way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Courtois has been doing really well; a really good replacement to DeGea.  He&#8217;s just unfortunate to be playing in a team with top players, but that for some reason cannot organize themselves in any meaningful way.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin K.</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809616</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obviously, you know that Austrians would have no problem endorsing equal sharing of revenue among clubs in a private league. Much like they would have no problem with a group of people voluntarily deciding to live in a commune by themselves.

As for FFP, I think the Austrian would be, were it a policy question, rather than the rule of a pseudo-private institution, opposed to it. FFP is a clear barrier to competition. It&#039;s largely going to cement the current top teams at the expense of those trying to rise to the top. Sure, it will reduce the number of clubs taking on crazy loans to finance pushes for European football, but the current top clubs will now have much less competition for players, monetarily. As for nouveau-riche clubs like Machester City or Chelsea[, who I might remind you were actually a fairly good club(, unlike, say, City), just in need of a more sane owner than Ken Bates, before Roman bought the club], the Austrian perspective would see them as upstarts challenging the established order. [It&#039;s also not as if the &quot;old guard&quot; got to where they were without a decently wealthy owner at some point, anyway.] It&#039;s also not as if they keep spending and spending either, most &quot;sugar daddies&quot; tend to offer a short-term burst of cash, spent on players and infrastructure, then spend less and less until the club is self-sufficient. Right now, for instance, Chelsea is surprisingly close to being self-reliant, and it&#039;s mainly the much lower stadium revenues compared to other top clubs which is keeping them from being able to live without Roman, and they&#039;re working on getting a new stadium.

My point may have been a little lost there in my defence of my club, but basically, I think the Austrian position would be that FFP is largely curtailing competition by preventing clubs from acquiring the capital necessary to compete successfully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obviously, you know that Austrians would have no problem endorsing equal sharing of revenue among clubs in a private league. Much like they would have no problem with a group of people voluntarily deciding to live in a commune by themselves.</p>
<p>As for FFP, I think the Austrian would be, were it a policy question, rather than the rule of a pseudo-private institution, opposed to it. FFP is a clear barrier to competition. It&#8217;s largely going to cement the current top teams at the expense of those trying to rise to the top. Sure, it will reduce the number of clubs taking on crazy loans to finance pushes for European football, but the current top clubs will now have much less competition for players, monetarily. As for nouveau-riche clubs like Machester City or Chelsea[, who I might remind you were actually a fairly good club(, unlike, say, City), just in need of a more sane owner than Ken Bates, before Roman bought the club], the Austrian perspective would see them as upstarts challenging the established order. [It's also not as if the "old guard" got to where they were without a decently wealthy owner at some point, anyway.] It&#8217;s also not as if they keep spending and spending either, most &#8220;sugar daddies&#8221; tend to offer a short-term burst of cash, spent on players and infrastructure, then spend less and less until the club is self-sufficient. Right now, for instance, Chelsea is surprisingly close to being self-reliant, and it&#8217;s mainly the much lower stadium revenues compared to other top clubs which is keeping them from being able to live without Roman, and they&#8217;re working on getting a new stadium.</p>
<p>My point may have been a little lost there in my defence of my club, but basically, I think the Austrian position would be that FFP is largely curtailing competition by preventing clubs from acquiring the capital necessary to compete successfully.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin K.</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809613</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 12:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[On a completely non-economic note, would you say, as a supporter of Atletico, that Thibaut Courtois has been as good as he seems to have been to Chelsea supporters like myself? From what I&#039;ve seen and heard, he&#039;s been mostly spectacular.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On a completely non-economic note, would you say, as a supporter of Atletico, that Thibaut Courtois has been as good as he seems to have been to Chelsea supporters like myself? From what I&#8217;ve seen and heard, he&#8217;s been mostly spectacular.</p>
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		<title>By: jmorris84</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809534</link>
		<dc:creator>jmorris84</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 21:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Santos is &quot;one of the 5 best football teams in the world?&quot; How is this so; especially since they are currently 8th in the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Santos is &#8220;one of the 5 best football teams in the world?&#8221; How is this so; especially since they are currently 8th in the Campeonato Brasileiro Série A?</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Basso</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809451</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Basso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PPS: Just remembered now - Marca is definetely a non-reliable newspaper. Just as all spanish sport journalism. Just like Madrid and Barça, there&#039;s the Marca and Sport rivality. And i don&#039;t really trust a word Marca says about the contract signed and the president&#039;s involvment into all of this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PPS: Just remembered now &#8211; Marca is definetely a non-reliable newspaper. Just as all spanish sport journalism. Just like Madrid and Barça, there&#8217;s the Marca and Sport rivality. And i don&#8217;t really trust a word Marca says about the contract signed and the president&#8217;s involvment into all of this.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Basso</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809450</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Basso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PS: Bernardo e Filipe:
Não adianta nada ser a 7ª economia do mundo e ser o 84º IDH. Então temos uma economia grande que dá muito a poucos e pouco a muitos. E um estado onde nada, absolutamente nada, funciona de acordo com essa potencia econômica. Eu duvido muito que vcs tenham aprendido inglês na escola pública, utilizem regularmente saúde pública, transporte público ou mesmo acreditem na nosssa polícia (é possivel que vivam em condominios/edificios com porteiros, segurança privada, etc)

Estamos melhorando? Estamos... mas porque nossos políticos seguem se involvendo com assuntos que não deveriam ser seus? (A Italia não serve de modelo para nada nem ninguém). O Itaquera será o estádio da Copa porque o Lula é corinthiano e o R. Teixeira, brigado com o SPFC. O Neymar fica porque a Dilma facilitou um empréstimo. Confesso que fiquei muito, muito feliz com a permanencia dele, mas não deveria ter sido desse modo.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PS: Bernardo e Filipe:<br />
Não adianta nada ser a 7ª economia do mundo e ser o 84º IDH. Então temos uma economia grande que dá muito a poucos e pouco a muitos. E um estado onde nada, absolutamente nada, funciona de acordo com essa potencia econômica. Eu duvido muito que vcs tenham aprendido inglês na escola pública, utilizem regularmente saúde pública, transporte público ou mesmo acreditem na nosssa polícia (é possivel que vivam em condominios/edificios com porteiros, segurança privada, etc)</p>
<p>Estamos melhorando? Estamos&#8230; mas porque nossos políticos seguem se involvendo com assuntos que não deveriam ser seus? (A Italia não serve de modelo para nada nem ninguém). O Itaquera será o estádio da Copa porque o Lula é corinthiano e o R. Teixeira, brigado com o SPFC. O Neymar fica porque a Dilma facilitou um empréstimo. Confesso que fiquei muito, muito feliz com a permanencia dele, mas não deveria ter sido desse modo.</p>
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		<title>By: Gustavo Basso</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809449</link>
		<dc:creator>Gustavo Basso</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2011 03:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even tough i agree with almost everything that is said, specially about the relationship of the President in the &#039;soap opera&#039;, one thing is completely wrong (i have any prejudice i could say that only a person without real football knowledge could say: &quot;it will keep him in an inferior and relatively less competitive football team.&quot;

Santos is nowadays one of the 5 best football teams in the world, and anyone would be surprise if they beat Barcelona at the World Championship. And even tough european sport - and football - is better organizated than brazilian&#039;s, the level is not superior. In Spain, for example, any team would be easily beaten by Santos (or Vasco da Gama, or Peñarol) except for Madrid and Barça. The same in Italy, but with Milan and Inter. And yet the same in England, except for Manchester City and United and Chelsea. And these are the best one&#039;s... french, portuguese, dutch and ever german leagues/teams can&#039;t face the brazilian league. It may not be the richest, neither the most beatiful, but is, for sure, the most competitive in the world. 4 rounds to the end, the 8 first ones has 4 poins amongs them... where else can this happen?

So, i just think Europe should pay more attention to South America&#039;s football - not just the players you want to buy, but also the teams and the leagues.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even tough i agree with almost everything that is said, specially about the relationship of the President in the &#8216;soap opera&#8217;, one thing is completely wrong (i have any prejudice i could say that only a person without real football knowledge could say: &#8220;it will keep him in an inferior and relatively less competitive football team.&#8221;</p>
<p>Santos is nowadays one of the 5 best football teams in the world, and anyone would be surprise if they beat Barcelona at the World Championship. And even tough european sport &#8211; and football &#8211; is better organizated than brazilian&#8217;s, the level is not superior. In Spain, for example, any team would be easily beaten by Santos (or Vasco da Gama, or Peñarol) except for Madrid and Barça. The same in Italy, but with Milan and Inter. And yet the same in England, except for Manchester City and United and Chelsea. And these are the best one&#8217;s&#8230; french, portuguese, dutch and ever german leagues/teams can&#8217;t face the brazilian league. It may not be the richest, neither the most beatiful, but is, for sure, the most competitive in the world. 4 rounds to the end, the 8 first ones has 4 poins amongs them&#8230; where else can this happen?</p>
<p>So, i just think Europe should pay more attention to South America&#8217;s football &#8211; not just the players you want to buy, but also the teams and the leagues.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael A. Clem</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809406</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael A. Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 19:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bread and circuses.  Keeping the masses entertained with a popular sport helps detract from the governmental problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bread and circuses.  Keeping the masses entertained with a popular sport helps detract from the governmental problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Sione</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809400</link>
		<dc:creator>Sione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow! Some guys sure are focussed on their favourite entertainment game. No wonder them govt fellers feel a need to get involved and bugger everything up. The whole show is a corrupt distraction really. While it can be fun to attend a game occasionally or even set aside the time to watch one on TV, they are not important at all in the scheme of life. The fact that there has been so much political involvement and popular obcessing regarding the various professional codes all goes to demonstrate a widespread degeneracy and an inactive sloth. Yuck! 

--
An aside: 
Are you routinely involved in sports personally? Do you play? Or is it the fan mags and the TV and pub gossip for you?

Interesting to hear more.

Sione]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow! Some guys sure are focussed on their favourite entertainment game. No wonder them govt fellers feel a need to get involved and bugger everything up. The whole show is a corrupt distraction really. While it can be fun to attend a game occasionally or even set aside the time to watch one on TV, they are not important at all in the scheme of life. The fact that there has been so much political involvement and popular obcessing regarding the various professional codes all goes to demonstrate a widespread degeneracy and an inactive sloth. Yuck! </p>
<p>&#8211;<br />
An aside:<br />
Are you routinely involved in sports personally? Do you play? Or is it the fan mags and the TV and pub gossip for you?</p>
<p>Interesting to hear more.</p>
<p>Sione</p>
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		<title>By: Sione</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809398</link>
		<dc:creator>Sione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 18:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When you refer to &quot;Rugby football&quot; you are, of course, referring to Rugby League (as in the game administered by the Rugby Football League). There is also Rugby Union. Then there are the seven-aside versions of both. There is also &quot;Touch Rugby&quot; and &quot;Australian Rules&quot;. While some may occasionally refer to any of these as &quot;footy&quot; around these parts, generally they are not called &quot;football&quot;. They are known as &quot;Rugby&quot;, &quot;League&quot;, &quot;Sevens&quot;, &quot;Aussie Rules&quot; and &quot;Touch.&quot; The kicking game is always called &quot;Soccer&quot; and American &quot;football&quot; is &quot;Grid Iron&quot;. This avoids the imprecision of the term &quot;football&quot;.       

Sione]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you refer to &#8220;Rugby football&#8221; you are, of course, referring to Rugby League (as in the game administered by the Rugby Football League). There is also Rugby Union. Then there are the seven-aside versions of both. There is also &#8220;Touch Rugby&#8221; and &#8220;Australian Rules&#8221;. While some may occasionally refer to any of these as &#8220;footy&#8221; around these parts, generally they are not called &#8220;football&#8221;. They are known as &#8220;Rugby&#8221;, &#8220;League&#8221;, &#8220;Sevens&#8221;, &#8220;Aussie Rules&#8221; and &#8220;Touch.&#8221; The kicking game is always called &#8220;Soccer&#8221; and American &#8220;football&#8221; is &#8220;Grid Iron&#8221;. This avoids the imprecision of the term &#8220;football&#8221;.       </p>
<p>Sione</p>
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		<title>By: Fred</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809391</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 17:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s quite funny to read this, when a european club is rejected, it&#039;s news around the world.  To read that Neymar is not ready for europe, so O&#039;shea and Bendtner are ? I&#039;ll give you a list of players playing in TOP european clubs - not to mention the others - that wouldn&#039;t even get picked in the local league that I play in Brazil.  There are a lot of shit players around, that is why you need to buy (at any costs, which are not even in the clubs bank - therefore it&#039;s also a loan) abroad.  The decision Neymar did is his, it&#039;s not up to you to decide if it was right or not, he is happy there, so there is where he will stay.  Money can&#039;t buy everything, reason why Tevez is not playing for the oil-dollars Man City.  He is more than ready, better than anyone there (except Messi), but european will have to learn to accept the fact that Brazil is different now.  We don&#039;t have the same power, but Real Madrid don&#039;t know how to negotiate.  Neymar will leave at some point, but not when RM wants, it&#039;s when it&#039;s the right time, you&#039;ll see he&#039;ll end up in Barcelona.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s quite funny to read this, when a european club is rejected, it&#8217;s news around the world.  To read that Neymar is not ready for europe, so O&#8217;shea and Bendtner are ? I&#8217;ll give you a list of players playing in TOP european clubs &#8211; not to mention the others &#8211; that wouldn&#8217;t even get picked in the local league that I play in Brazil.  There are a lot of shit players around, that is why you need to buy (at any costs, which are not even in the clubs bank &#8211; therefore it&#8217;s also a loan) abroad.  The decision Neymar did is his, it&#8217;s not up to you to decide if it was right or not, he is happy there, so there is where he will stay.  Money can&#8217;t buy everything, reason why Tevez is not playing for the oil-dollars Man City.  He is more than ready, better than anyone there (except Messi), but european will have to learn to accept the fact that Brazil is different now.  We don&#8217;t have the same power, but Real Madrid don&#8217;t know how to negotiate.  Neymar will leave at some point, but not when RM wants, it&#8217;s when it&#8217;s the right time, you&#8217;ll see he&#8217;ll end up in Barcelona.</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe Sacemramento</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809306</link>
		<dc:creator>Felipe Sacemramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We do have a lot of poverty in the country 
but like bernardo said we are the 7th economy 
in the world and our teams dont need the president
to help us .
This is the past , there is way less corruption now
and we have very rich clubs at the moment ,
most of our clubs have over 10,20 MI fans and now 
the clubs are learning how to make money out of
it and the so called richest clubs in the world own
a LOT of money to the banks . None of this clubs
in europe have this kind of money to buy players at
this level but they do anyway and everybody thinks
they are veryyyy rich but in fact they with more debts.

Sorry abouy my spelling im texting from my mobile 
and made a phew mistakes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do have a lot of poverty in the country<br />
but like bernardo said we are the 7th economy<br />
in the world and our teams dont need the president<br />
to help us .<br />
This is the past , there is way less corruption now<br />
and we have very rich clubs at the moment ,<br />
most of our clubs have over 10,20 MI fans and now<br />
the clubs are learning how to make money out of<br />
it and the so called richest clubs in the world own<br />
a LOT of money to the banks . None of this clubs<br />
in europe have this kind of money to buy players at<br />
this level but they do anyway and everybody thinks<br />
they are veryyyy rich but in fact they with more debts.</p>
<p>Sorry abouy my spelling im texting from my mobile<br />
and made a phew mistakes.</p>
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		<title>By: Felipe Sacemramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felipe Sacemramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:34:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If dont know dont talk about it !!!
The goverment from Brazil has nothing to do 
with neymar and Santos the spanish are pist off
couse the kid decided to stay in Brazil and we 
very capeble of to pay his salary in the sane level
of the europeans . 
You dont need rankings to say that our league 
is stronger tham most of all europeans league 
they have a couple of teams fighting since the start 
when we have at least 12 , thats a league.
We are 5 times world champions and we export
over 1000 players a year to all over the world 
and we still make teams to win anything on the world
this europeans sidex NEED to buy the best of the best
to be something when sell our best and still
make a completly new team as good as .
Take the the top 2 , 4 teams from the so callef
best leagues in the world and the rest is as bad as our
4 division .
The problem is that the eutopeans think the are the centre
of the universe , but not in football .]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If dont know dont talk about it !!!<br />
The goverment from Brazil has nothing to do<br />
with neymar and Santos the spanish are pist off<br />
couse the kid decided to stay in Brazil and we<br />
very capeble of to pay his salary in the sane level<br />
of the europeans .<br />
You dont need rankings to say that our league<br />
is stronger tham most of all europeans league<br />
they have a couple of teams fighting since the start<br />
when we have at least 12 , thats a league.<br />
We are 5 times world champions and we export<br />
over 1000 players a year to all over the world<br />
and we still make teams to win anything on the world<br />
this europeans sidex NEED to buy the best of the best<br />
to be something when sell our best and still<br />
make a completly new team as good as .<br />
Take the the top 2 , 4 teams from the so callef<br />
best leagues in the world and the rest is as bad as our<br />
4 division .<br />
The problem is that the eutopeans think the are the centre<br />
of the universe , but not in football .</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan M.F. Catalán</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan M.F. Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The loan is basically a subsidy, given that without the approval of Brazil&#039;s president the loan would have never been given.  And, Brazil might have a large economy on paper, but this doesn&#039;t necessarily translate to its football league or to other sectors of the economy (e.g. Brazil has a relatively large pool of people that live in poverty, compared to first world nations).

And, I don&#039;t know what weight FIFA gives to the Brazilian league -- I didn&#039;t know that FIFA issued coefficients (I can&#039;t find them, either).  I know that some Brazilian teams are ranked highly by other ranking systems, but if you look at the top 25 in most rankings the teams are overwhelmingly European, with the rest being South American (Argentine or Brazilian)... but with this &quot;rest&quot; being in the majority.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The loan is basically a subsidy, given that without the approval of Brazil&#8217;s president the loan would have never been given.  And, Brazil might have a large economy on paper, but this doesn&#8217;t necessarily translate to its football league or to other sectors of the economy (e.g. Brazil has a relatively large pool of people that live in poverty, compared to first world nations).</p>
<p>And, I don&#8217;t know what weight FIFA gives to the Brazilian league &#8212; I didn&#8217;t know that FIFA issued coefficients (I can&#8217;t find them, either).  I know that some Brazilian teams are ranked highly by other ranking systems, but if you look at the top 25 in most rankings the teams are overwhelmingly European, with the rest being South American (Argentine or Brazilian)&#8230; but with this &#8220;rest&#8221; being in the majority.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809303</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 00:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think Marca is a trusted source...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think Marca is a trusted source&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Bernardo Gollo</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809280</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernardo Gollo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m sorry but you got it a bit wrong, try studying a bit more of Brazil&#039;s economy and Brazilian football. Brazil is the 7th biggest economy in the world, if that means a poor country what is a rich one? And not rich like China or India that has a billion plus population, only 190 million. Because of that football clubs in Brazil got better conditions now to pay bigger salaries, not like Europe yet but well paid enough. Santos got a loan from the bank, not a subsidy. And last but not least, the Brazilian league is as strong  as European ones, you can check that on the weighting Fifa gives to each league to point world clubs rankings, and if you watched it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry but you got it a bit wrong, try studying a bit more of Brazil&#8217;s economy and Brazilian football. Brazil is the 7th biggest economy in the world, if that means a poor country what is a rich one? And not rich like China or India that has a billion plus population, only 190 million. Because of that football clubs in Brazil got better conditions now to pay bigger salaries, not like Europe yet but well paid enough. Santos got a loan from the bank, not a subsidy. And last but not least, the Brazilian league is as strong  as European ones, you can check that on the weighting Fifa gives to each league to point world clubs rankings, and if you watched it.</p>
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		<title>By: F&#039;ing F-face</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809237</link>
		<dc:creator>F&#039;ing F-face</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 17:17:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dilma is a fucking ignorant bitch who doesn&#039;t even know how to speak english.

Brazil sucks so bad that, this post, where I especifically refer to her being a huge cunt is actually a crime in Brazil*

* it&#039;s a form of &lt;em&gt;lèse majesté&lt;/em&gt; which applies to &lt;b&gt;all&lt;/b&gt; public employees

Edit: Dilma is a cunt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dilma is a fucking ignorant bitch who doesn&#8217;t even know how to speak english.</p>
<p>Brazil sucks so bad that, this post, where I especifically refer to her being a huge cunt is actually a crime in Brazil*</p>
<p>* it&#8217;s a form of <em>lèse majesté</em> which applies to <b>all</b> public employees</p>
<p>Edit: Dilma is a cunt</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan M.F. Catalán</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809163</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan M.F. Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you sure about those club&#039;s financial positions?  I don&#039;t know for sure, but I think Barcelona is actually in worse financial shape than Real Madrid.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you sure about those club&#8217;s financial positions?  I don&#8217;t know for sure, but I think Barcelona is actually in worse financial shape than Real Madrid.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan M.F. Catalán</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan M.F. Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is currently a movement in Spain, though, led by the bigger of the &quot;minor&quot; clubs (Sevilla, Atletico de Madrid, Valencia, et cetera) to redistribute television rights in Spain.  So, it&#039;s not as lopsided as you make it seem.  And, Spain&#039;s La Liga is not government-free.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is currently a movement in Spain, though, led by the bigger of the &#8220;minor&#8221; clubs (Sevilla, Atletico de Madrid, Valencia, et cetera) to redistribute television rights in Spain.  So, it&#8217;s not as lopsided as you make it seem.  And, Spain&#8217;s La Liga is not government-free.</p>
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		<title>By: Merlin96</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/19156/interventionism-in-everything-football-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-809159</link>
		<dc:creator>Merlin96</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Nov 2011 04:15:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Football fans, please correct moi if I am wrong.

Real Madrid?
Associated with General Franco; heavily in debt with connected Spanish banks underwriting their massive deficits.
Like Real MAdrid = Fascism

Barcelona?
Catalan, rebellious, club is owned by fans but still a heavily in-debt club.
Like Barcelona = Anarchism

Without loans from banks, you think Real Madrid and Barcelona will survive in a Laisezz Faire Capitalist World, living within their means?

Or Real madrid and Barcelona survive with massive &quot;stae-injected funds&quot; like a Corporatist State via all those Spanish banks giving them generous borrowing facilities?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Football fans, please correct moi if I am wrong.</p>
<p>Real Madrid?<br />
Associated with General Franco; heavily in debt with connected Spanish banks underwriting their massive deficits.<br />
Like Real MAdrid = Fascism</p>
<p>Barcelona?<br />
Catalan, rebellious, club is owned by fans but still a heavily in-debt club.<br />
Like Barcelona = Anarchism</p>
<p>Without loans from banks, you think Real Madrid and Barcelona will survive in a Laisezz Faire Capitalist World, living within their means?</p>
<p>Or Real madrid and Barcelona survive with massive &#8220;stae-injected funds&#8221; like a Corporatist State via all those Spanish banks giving them generous borrowing facilities?</p>
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