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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798629</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 02:16:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, and just to make myself perfectly clear, I have a lower opinion of the value of S&amp;P&#039;s credit ratings than either you or Krugman, and I base my opinion on a lot more evidence than its horrific misjudgment in the case of Lehman Brothers and those many mortgage-backed securities which it so magnificently flubbed. The preponderance of evidence that S&amp;P doesn&#039;t know shite from shinola when it comes to analyzing credit worthiness are all those triple A ratings it gave to US Treasury debt during the many decades that the US government was demonstrating for every economist worth his salt to see that it could never repay its debts and accumulated liabilities for entitlement programs by any other means than fraudulently debasing the currency through monetary inflation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and just to make myself perfectly clear, I have a lower opinion of the value of S&amp;P&#8217;s credit ratings than either you or Krugman, and I base my opinion on a lot more evidence than its horrific misjudgment in the case of Lehman Brothers and those many mortgage-backed securities which it so magnificently flubbed. The preponderance of evidence that S&amp;P doesn&#8217;t know shite from shinola when it comes to analyzing credit worthiness are all those triple A ratings it gave to US Treasury debt during the many decades that the US government was demonstrating for every economist worth his salt to see that it could never repay its debts and accumulated liabilities for entitlement programs by any other means than fraudulently debasing the currency through monetary inflation.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798627</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Aug 2011 01:58:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ok, Alan, now at least your are offering a little substantive criticism rather than just calling names. Nevertheless, it is obvious that you misinterpreted Jeff&#039;s comments regarding Krugman and S&amp;P. Jeff certainly didn&#039;t endorse S&amp;P. Rather he criticized Krugman&#039;s criticism of S&amp;P for downgrading the U.S.&#039;s creditworthiness from triple-A by mocking the credit agency for not having downgraded Lehman Bros. credit rating from its single-A rating until after Lehman went belly up. Alan, don&#039;t you see the confusion in Krugman&#039;s criticism that Jeff was pointing out??? If S&amp;P screwed up by not downgrading Lehman Bros. earlier, to be consistent, Krugman should be congratulating S&amp;P now for moving expeditiously to downgrade the US BEFORE it goes bankrupt?

To prove my point about Krugman&#039;s creativity, let&#039;s just parse one two-sentence paragraph from the column Jeff cited in his article. Here&#039;s what Krugman stated just as if it was factual in his first sentence:

&quot;America’s large budget deficit is, after all, primarily the result of the economic slump that followed the 2008 financial crisis.&quot; 

If that isn&#039;t pure economic bull then how is Krugman to explain America&#039;s budget deficits in 81 out of the last 90 years??? (http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/pdf/hist.pdf) Must we suppose that the other 81 budget deficits since 1930 were attributable to the Great Depression? And if the United States has been operating at a deficit in virtually every year since 1930, isn&#039;t it about time S&amp;P reduced its credit rating of such a deadbeat establishment?  If Krugman was a real economist, relying on facts rather than his own fantasy scenarios, he would chastise S&amp;P for not dropping the US rating to whatever letter S&amp;P gives to a nation or corporation that is teetering on the verge of belly up.  

In his next sentence, Krugman says this:

&quot;And S.&amp; P., along with its sister rating agencies, played a major role in causing that crisis, by giving AAA ratings to mortgage-backed assets that have since turned into toxic waste. &quot;

Naah, the credit-rating agencies aren&#039;t that powerful that they could play a major role in causing any financial crisis. The major-role culprit responsible for the latest crisis was, as usual, the Federal Reserve, which, along with congress, esp., Barney Frank, and Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac inflated the housing  bubble to the point of bursting in a vainglorious attempt to put every American in a house they couldn&#039;t afford.

You know, it really doesn&#039;t require any &quot;comedic reverse-splitting-hairs method&quot; (Is that anything like &quot;reverse harem anime?) to trash Krugman. The easiest way to trash Krugman is to point out his simplistic, religious faith in government spending to cure all evils, and his consistent habit of either distorting the facts or creating his own &quot;facts&quot; out of whole cloth in support of his religious beliefs, a really strange religion that Ludwig von Mises wisely dubbed Statolatry. But speaking of things humorous, I find it very funny that so many professed atheist--along with a bunch of Christians, Jews and virtually every Muslim--are at heart Statolatrists, who worship at the alter of their Almighty State with all the fervor of religious fundamentalists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, Alan, now at least your are offering a little substantive criticism rather than just calling names. Nevertheless, it is obvious that you misinterpreted Jeff&#8217;s comments regarding Krugman and S&amp;P. Jeff certainly didn&#8217;t endorse S&amp;P. Rather he criticized Krugman&#8217;s criticism of S&amp;P for downgrading the U.S.&#8217;s creditworthiness from triple-A by mocking the credit agency for not having downgraded Lehman Bros. credit rating from its single-A rating until after Lehman went belly up. Alan, don&#8217;t you see the confusion in Krugman&#8217;s criticism that Jeff was pointing out??? If S&amp;P screwed up by not downgrading Lehman Bros. earlier, to be consistent, Krugman should be congratulating S&amp;P now for moving expeditiously to downgrade the US BEFORE it goes bankrupt?</p>
<p>To prove my point about Krugman&#8217;s creativity, let&#8217;s just parse one two-sentence paragraph from the column Jeff cited in his article. Here&#8217;s what Krugman stated just as if it was factual in his first sentence:</p>
<p>&#8220;America’s large budget deficit is, after all, primarily the result of the economic slump that followed the 2008 financial crisis.&#8221; </p>
<p>If that isn&#8217;t pure economic bull then how is Krugman to explain America&#8217;s budget deficits in 81 out of the last 90 years??? (<a href="http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/pdf/hist.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.gpoaccess.gov/usbudget/fy11/pdf/hist.pdf</a>) Must we suppose that the other 81 budget deficits since 1930 were attributable to the Great Depression? And if the United States has been operating at a deficit in virtually every year since 1930, isn&#8217;t it about time S&amp;P reduced its credit rating of such a deadbeat establishment?  If Krugman was a real economist, relying on facts rather than his own fantasy scenarios, he would chastise S&amp;P for not dropping the US rating to whatever letter S&amp;P gives to a nation or corporation that is teetering on the verge of belly up.  </p>
<p>In his next sentence, Krugman says this:</p>
<p>&#8220;And S.&amp; P., along with its sister rating agencies, played a major role in causing that crisis, by giving AAA ratings to mortgage-backed assets that have since turned into toxic waste. &#8221;</p>
<p>Naah, the credit-rating agencies aren&#8217;t that powerful that they could play a major role in causing any financial crisis. The major-role culprit responsible for the latest crisis was, as usual, the Federal Reserve, which, along with congress, esp., Barney Frank, and Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac inflated the housing  bubble to the point of bursting in a vainglorious attempt to put every American in a house they couldn&#8217;t afford.</p>
<p>You know, it really doesn&#8217;t require any &#8220;comedic reverse-splitting-hairs method&#8221; (Is that anything like &#8220;reverse harem anime?) to trash Krugman. The easiest way to trash Krugman is to point out his simplistic, religious faith in government spending to cure all evils, and his consistent habit of either distorting the facts or creating his own &#8220;facts&#8221; out of whole cloth in support of his religious beliefs, a really strange religion that Ludwig von Mises wisely dubbed Statolatry. But speaking of things humorous, I find it very funny that so many professed atheist&#8211;along with a bunch of Christians, Jews and virtually every Muslim&#8211;are at heart Statolatrists, who worship at the alter of their Almighty State with all the fervor of religious fundamentalists.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798454</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Aug 2011 16:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, S&amp;P lost all credibility in 2006-2008 and therefore their downgrade of US Debt is meaningless. Investors agree 100%. 

Rating agencies have an extremely poor record analyzing sovereign debt -- just look at JGB yields during the last 10+ years every time a rating agency downgraded their debt. Therefore, Jeff et al miss the picture by saying that S&amp;P &quot;dares to let out some slight be [sic] of truth&quot;.

This may be too much for you to comprehend and it&#039;s hilarious how Jeff tries to trash Krugman by a comedic reverse-splitting-hairs method.

So, in summary:
* Jeff is not very bright
* Neither are you]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, S&amp;P lost all credibility in 2006-2008 and therefore their downgrade of US Debt is meaningless. Investors agree 100%. </p>
<p>Rating agencies have an extremely poor record analyzing sovereign debt &#8212; just look at JGB yields during the last 10+ years every time a rating agency downgraded their debt. Therefore, Jeff et al miss the picture by saying that S&amp;P &#8220;dares to let out some slight be [sic] of truth&#8221;.</p>
<p>This may be too much for you to comprehend and it&#8217;s hilarious how Jeff tries to trash Krugman by a comedic reverse-splitting-hairs method.</p>
<p>So, in summary:<br />
* Jeff is not very bright<br />
* Neither are you</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798311</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Aug 2011 17:18:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan, I&#039;m glad to see you are staying tuned to this blog. Now, if you&#039;ve taken that remedial reading course, have reread Jeff&#039;s short article, but still cling to the belief that he said something in it to warrant calling him an &quot;idiot&quot; and &quot;clueless,&quot; perhaps you will have acquired the guts to man up, as Sarah Paliin might say, and tell us exactly what it was that Jeff said in his article that so enraged you that you could only, mutter, sputter and respond by engaging in childish name calling? Was it the fact that he mentioned S&amp;P?

Come, come. Out with it. Did you own some of those mortgage-backed bonds that tanked because you relied on S&amp;P&#039;s phony ratings? Ho, ho. Or perhaps you work for one of the other rating services yourself and are really just blogging for dollars? Maybe Moody&#039;s or Fitch? 

Whatever. See if you can respond without persisting in your desperate attempts to change the subject, which, as I already pointed out to you, constitutes a clear admission that you know you  made a stupid mistake but wont admit it. As long as you keep trying to shift the focus away from your faux pas, I&#039;ll be happy to keep focusing on you and it like an owl focusing on a scurrying mouse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, I&#8217;m glad to see you are staying tuned to this blog. Now, if you&#8217;ve taken that remedial reading course, have reread Jeff&#8217;s short article, but still cling to the belief that he said something in it to warrant calling him an &#8220;idiot&#8221; and &#8220;clueless,&#8221; perhaps you will have acquired the guts to man up, as Sarah Paliin might say, and tell us exactly what it was that Jeff said in his article that so enraged you that you could only, mutter, sputter and respond by engaging in childish name calling? Was it the fact that he mentioned S&amp;P?</p>
<p>Come, come. Out with it. Did you own some of those mortgage-backed bonds that tanked because you relied on S&amp;P&#8217;s phony ratings? Ho, ho. Or perhaps you work for one of the other rating services yourself and are really just blogging for dollars? Maybe Moody&#8217;s or Fitch? </p>
<p>Whatever. See if you can respond without persisting in your desperate attempts to change the subject, which, as I already pointed out to you, constitutes a clear admission that you know you  made a stupid mistake but wont admit it. As long as you keep trying to shift the focus away from your faux pas, I&#8217;ll be happy to keep focusing on you and it like an owl focusing on a scurrying mouse.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798193</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Aug 2011 15:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha. I apparently read better than you (translation: I can comprehend ideas better even when those ideas are convoluted as Jeff tends to be) but thanks for showing me your homepage.

And, please, cling to your guns and religion and keep to yourself for the betterment of the gene pool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha. I apparently read better than you (translation: I can comprehend ideas better even when those ideas are convoluted as Jeff tends to be) but thanks for showing me your homepage.</p>
<p>And, please, cling to your guns and religion and keep to yourself for the betterment of the gene pool.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798068</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 19:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alan, On the off chance that you want to improve your reading skills: http://www.time4learning.com/reading-programs.shtml Remember, Jesus loves you, and so do I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan, On the off chance that you want to improve your reading skills: <a href="http://www.time4learning.com/reading-programs.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.time4learning.com/reading-programs.shtml</a> Remember, Jesus loves you, and so do I.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-798039</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ned,

I appreciate your response. Unfortunately, I have to lump you in with Jeff. You see, I did read Jeff&#039;s original post and that&#039;s why I wrote what I wrote. Jeff seems to confuse the analogy (or complicate it more than necessary) so I&#039;m afraid there&#039;s nothing more I can add and I completely stand my original post assessing Jeff&#039;s logic.

I don&#039;t believe I changed the subject because you didn&#039;t offer a counter argument (only directing me to re-read a flawed statement). However, I noticed the website you maintain and then realized I was dealing with someone who doesn&#039;t believe in rational thought at all. So, I think this conversation serves no purpose.

Good luck having imaginary conversations with Jesus on how to guide your life.

-Alan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ned,</p>
<p>I appreciate your response. Unfortunately, I have to lump you in with Jeff. You see, I did read Jeff&#8217;s original post and that&#8217;s why I wrote what I wrote. Jeff seems to confuse the analogy (or complicate it more than necessary) so I&#8217;m afraid there&#8217;s nothing more I can add and I completely stand my original post assessing Jeff&#8217;s logic.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe I changed the subject because you didn&#8217;t offer a counter argument (only directing me to re-read a flawed statement). However, I noticed the website you maintain and then realized I was dealing with someone who doesn&#8217;t believe in rational thought at all. So, I think this conversation serves no purpose.</p>
<p>Good luck having imaginary conversations with Jesus on how to guide your life.</p>
<p>-Alan</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-797980</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2011 05:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey, Alan, you didn&#039;t respond to my comment and criticism of your post. I said go back and read what Jeff wrote. Did you? If you did, I&#039;m sure you realized that you initially failed to comprehend what Jeff said in his article, and in calling him an idiot for saying something he never said, you clearly demonstrated for everyone to see that you are the one who is &quot;clueless&quot; and an &quot;idiot,&quot; to use your terminology. Now you want to change the subject and delve into my beliefs. I&#039;m sorry, but I disdain to answer your question until you apologize to Jeff for your misapprehension and nasty remarks. If you are man enough to admit your mistake--and it is obvious that you do now recognize you erred or you wouldn&#039;t be desperately trying to change the subject--then I will gladly respond to your question. Until then, keep coming back to Mises.org. However, you will probably find it more conducive to enlightenment if you read the articles more carefully and put on your thinking cap before deriding the authors. Thoughtful disagreement gracefully submitted is always welcome here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Alan, you didn&#8217;t respond to my comment and criticism of your post. I said go back and read what Jeff wrote. Did you? If you did, I&#8217;m sure you realized that you initially failed to comprehend what Jeff said in his article, and in calling him an idiot for saying something he never said, you clearly demonstrated for everyone to see that you are the one who is &#8220;clueless&#8221; and an &#8220;idiot,&#8221; to use your terminology. Now you want to change the subject and delve into my beliefs. I&#8217;m sorry, but I disdain to answer your question until you apologize to Jeff for your misapprehension and nasty remarks. If you are man enough to admit your mistake&#8211;and it is obvious that you do now recognize you erred or you wouldn&#8217;t be desperately trying to change the subject&#8211;then I will gladly respond to your question. Until then, keep coming back to Mises.org. However, you will probably find it more conducive to enlightenment if you read the articles more carefully and put on your thinking cap before deriding the authors. Thoughtful disagreement gracefully submitted is always welcome here.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-797111</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Aug 2011 14:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh my. You maintain a site called &quot;Jesus-on-taxes&quot;?

You believe in using Jesus to guide rational thought?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my. You maintain a site called &#8220;Jesus-on-taxes&#8221;?</p>
<p>You believe in using Jesus to guide rational thought?</p>
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		<title>By: Walt D.</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796984</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 18:45:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rory:
If you get the historical numbers from the St Louis Fed, you will see that tax revenue is usually about 20% of GDP. This appears to be independent of marginal corporate and individual tax rates. Raising marginal rates on changes who the tax is collected from.
There are  a couple of other things.
1) In the past, the federal government has looted Social Security. (This actually allowed Bill Clinton to claim that he &quot;balanced the budget&quot;. However, there is no longer a surplus. This has been caused by early retirement and unemployment. The government loses revenue from ALL the unemployed (plus an equal amount from the employer)., not just the 9% per-cent in the U3. 
2) In the US, people pay state and local taxes as well as Federal Taxes. In some states, in particular New York and California, these taxes are high. They depend on people being employed. This is why &quot;taxing the rich&quot; is likely to lead in a net revenue loss when you consider all levels of government. Somehow, the loss of FICA receipts, extra unemployment insurance payments, extra food stamp payments, caused by layoffs and business closures, never seem to make it into the calculation.   So at best they are robbing Peter to pay Paul.
The loss of revenue at state and local level is also ignored. I even heard someone say, last week, that unemployment benefits stimulate the economy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory:<br />
If you get the historical numbers from the St Louis Fed, you will see that tax revenue is usually about 20% of GDP. This appears to be independent of marginal corporate and individual tax rates. Raising marginal rates on changes who the tax is collected from.<br />
There are  a couple of other things.<br />
1) In the past, the federal government has looted Social Security. (This actually allowed Bill Clinton to claim that he &#8220;balanced the budget&#8221;. However, there is no longer a surplus. This has been caused by early retirement and unemployment. The government loses revenue from ALL the unemployed (plus an equal amount from the employer)., not just the 9% per-cent in the U3.<br />
2) In the US, people pay state and local taxes as well as Federal Taxes. In some states, in particular New York and California, these taxes are high. They depend on people being employed. This is why &#8220;taxing the rich&#8221; is likely to lead in a net revenue loss when you consider all levels of government. Somehow, the loss of FICA receipts, extra unemployment insurance payments, extra food stamp payments, caused by layoffs and business closures, never seem to make it into the calculation.   So at best they are robbing Peter to pay Paul.<br />
The loss of revenue at state and local level is also ignored. I even heard someone say, last week, that unemployment benefits stimulate the economy!</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796977</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Aug 2011 15:45:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh yeah, and I really must point out to you that the figure of government consuming 22% of the nation&#039;s GDP (a faulty figure itself crafted by government bureaucrats with an axe to grind) is unrealistically low by a large measure because it doesn&#039;t take into account unfunded government liabilities (SS, Medicare, Fanny and Freddie debt, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum), which, if those unfunded liabilities were ever actually going to be honestly met, would show the percent of the national income consumed by government to be well over 50%! Of course those unfunded liabilities will never be HONESTLY met (&quot;honestly&quot; excludes paying them with inflation-depreciated dollars, which is exactly the same as reneging) because lots of current taxpayers will realize long before that happens how stupid it is to pay their taxes (viz., allow themselves to be extortion victims), and will join the many folks like me who refuse to pay extortion.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yeah, and I really must point out to you that the figure of government consuming 22% of the nation&#8217;s GDP (a faulty figure itself crafted by government bureaucrats with an axe to grind) is unrealistically low by a large measure because it doesn&#8217;t take into account unfunded government liabilities (SS, Medicare, Fanny and Freddie debt, etc., etc., etc., etc., etc., ad infinitum), which, if those unfunded liabilities were ever actually going to be honestly met, would show the percent of the national income consumed by government to be well over 50%! Of course those unfunded liabilities will never be HONESTLY met (&#8220;honestly&#8221; excludes paying them with inflation-depreciated dollars, which is exactly the same as reneging) because lots of current taxpayers will realize long before that happens how stupid it is to pay their taxes (viz., allow themselves to be extortion victims), and will join the many folks like me who refuse to pay extortion.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796902</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Aug 2011 13:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hey Alan, you could seriously raise your IQ by taking a course in remedial reading. Go back and read what Jeff wrote. If you can find any defense of S&amp;P, unless it is the suggestion that S&amp;P is the lesser of two evils (the other evil demonstrably being Krugman) you may be able to remove your foot from that largest hole in your head. Btw, in case you also don&#039;t do math, here&#039;s a little help: the lesser of two evils is nonetheless evil.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Alan, you could seriously raise your IQ by taking a course in remedial reading. Go back and read what Jeff wrote. If you can find any defense of S&amp;P, unless it is the suggestion that S&amp;P is the lesser of two evils (the other evil demonstrably being Krugman) you may be able to remove your foot from that largest hole in your head. Btw, in case you also don&#8217;t do math, here&#8217;s a little help: the lesser of two evils is nonetheless evil.</p>
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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796818</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 19:17:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeff,

You are an idiot. You must have failed the antonym section of the SATs.

The fact that S&amp;P gave Lehman a rating above junk status when it was tanking is proof that S&amp;P is about as clueless as you are.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>You are an idiot. You must have failed the antonym section of the SATs.</p>
<p>The fact that S&amp;P gave Lehman a rating above junk status when it was tanking is proof that S&amp;P is about as clueless as you are.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796744</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Federal unfunded liabilities are in excess of $65 trillion and the amount of cutting required to fend off default is unlikely ever tor be made by representatives of people grown accustomed to depending on the federal government for some of, if not all, of their daily bread. The government will probably try to monetize those liabilities (default by inflation) as the only way it can see out of this morass, but that wont work here any better than it did in Zimbabwe.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Federal unfunded liabilities are in excess of $65 trillion and the amount of cutting required to fend off default is unlikely ever tor be made by representatives of people grown accustomed to depending on the federal government for some of, if not all, of their daily bread. The government will probably try to monetize those liabilities (default by inflation) as the only way it can see out of this morass, but that wont work here any better than it did in Zimbabwe.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796743</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 04:07:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too late, I fear. Government dependency in America has proceeded under the spell of Keynesian economics to the tipping point where it is no longer sustainable and must be severely reduced. Taxes cannot be raised sufficiently to continue funding welfare programs like Medicare, Social Security, Pell Grants, ethanol subsidies, and the plethora of other government loans and subsidies to individuals and corporations.  There are now sufficient numbers of people like me who will or have already stopped paying taxes to support the dependent class. Taxes in America are up against the Law of Diminishing Returns.  And when the government runs out of money to care for its dependents in a manner to which they have become accustomed, those dependents will tear down their neighborhoods around them, like we&#039;ve seen them do in Greece and London. (We could probably add Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Tunisia etc. to our list of disgruntled dependents for the Arab Spring is much about governments unable to continue stealing sufficient resources to pacify their inhabitants.) Will the first American city to experience dependency riots be Obama&#039;s hometown of Chicago sometime before the end of the year?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too late, I fear. Government dependency in America has proceeded under the spell of Keynesian economics to the tipping point where it is no longer sustainable and must be severely reduced. Taxes cannot be raised sufficiently to continue funding welfare programs like Medicare, Social Security, Pell Grants, ethanol subsidies, and the plethora of other government loans and subsidies to individuals and corporations.  There are now sufficient numbers of people like me who will or have already stopped paying taxes to support the dependent class. Taxes in America are up against the Law of Diminishing Returns.  And when the government runs out of money to care for its dependents in a manner to which they have become accustomed, those dependents will tear down their neighborhoods around them, like we&#8217;ve seen them do in Greece and London. (We could probably add Egypt, Syria, Yemen, Tunisia etc. to our list of disgruntled dependents for the Arab Spring is much about governments unable to continue stealing sufficient resources to pacify their inhabitants.) Will the first American city to experience dependency riots be Obama&#8217;s hometown of Chicago sometime before the end of the year?</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796739</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rory said, &quot;tax receipts as portion of GDP are currently hovering around 16%, so even accepting your rule of thumb our current tax receipts could grow substantially.&quot;

Wrong, Rory. Federal-government spending is  22% of GDP, and that is a much more accurate measure of the level of taxation because it includes the government&#039;s deficit spending, which is merely taxation on the installment plan and more painful than current taxes because of the interest charges. So obviously, there is no room for more taxes without further burdening the productive sector of the economy and destroying more jobs at a time when so many of our fellow Americans are suffering the dire consequences of Keynesian economics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory said, &#8220;tax receipts as portion of GDP are currently hovering around 16%, so even accepting your rule of thumb our current tax receipts could grow substantially.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong, Rory. Federal-government spending is  22% of GDP, and that is a much more accurate measure of the level of taxation because it includes the government&#8217;s deficit spending, which is merely taxation on the installment plan and more painful than current taxes because of the interest charges. So obviously, there is no room for more taxes without further burdening the productive sector of the economy and destroying more jobs at a time when so many of our fellow Americans are suffering the dire consequences of Keynesian economics.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796738</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rory, please get your facts straight. Bush didn&#039;t cut taxes, which, to be precise, is something congress, not the president, does or doesn&#039;t do. Nor did a tax cut occur during the years of Bush&#039;s presidency. On the contrary taxes, current and deferred (you know, like deficit spending and borrowing, which must be paid back with taxes) increased rapidly during the Bush years.  His administration pursued two wars, and he pushed for and got a prescription-drug welfare program through congress. Bush also opted for a Keynesian style bailout of Wall Street, just as his successor did.  The programs alone added trillions of dollars to the tax burden ultimately borne by the private-sector taxpayers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory, please get your facts straight. Bush didn&#8217;t cut taxes, which, to be precise, is something congress, not the president, does or doesn&#8217;t do. Nor did a tax cut occur during the years of Bush&#8217;s presidency. On the contrary taxes, current and deferred (you know, like deficit spending and borrowing, which must be paid back with taxes) increased rapidly during the Bush years.  His administration pursued two wars, and he pushed for and got a prescription-drug welfare program through congress. Bush also opted for a Keynesian style bailout of Wall Street, just as his successor did.  The programs alone added trillions of dollars to the tax burden ultimately borne by the private-sector taxpayers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796735</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Aug 2011 02:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rory said: &quot;Since there doesn’t seem to be any support at all for removing all taxation...&quot;

Wrong! There are a growing number of Voluntaryists who believe and are working for the abolition of forcible taxation and replacing it with a regimen of freedom and voluntary cooperation. Their numbers are considerably greater than the number of individuals who wanted to abolish slavery in the 18th century, and after a long and arduous intellectual struggle finally succeeded.

Rory asks: &quot;why would a small change in the impositions of the state to reduce the deficit issue’s weight on the economy necessarily be unthinkable? (those aren’t rhetorical questions, btw, they are real questions demanding real analysis and answers from smart Austrians)&quot;

Rory, that is only one question and not a real one. Rather it is a Keynesian rhetorical question. Nevertheless, and I don&#039;t claim to be a smart Austrian, but I will give you a common-sense answer. The reason the nation is in a recession is that government&#039;s impositions in the form of taxes, deficits, which are taxes on the installment plan and more expensive than current taxes because of the interest required, regulations and monetary manipulations are already so heavy that they have stifled the private-sector&#039;s vitality for growing the economy. Remember Rory, the private sector produces. Government revenues, regulations and its monetary manipulations are a burden on the private sector that only diminish productive economic activity, and can never produce net economic growth.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rory said: &#8220;Since there doesn’t seem to be any support at all for removing all taxation&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong! There are a growing number of Voluntaryists who believe and are working for the abolition of forcible taxation and replacing it with a regimen of freedom and voluntary cooperation. Their numbers are considerably greater than the number of individuals who wanted to abolish slavery in the 18th century, and after a long and arduous intellectual struggle finally succeeded.</p>
<p>Rory asks: &#8220;why would a small change in the impositions of the state to reduce the deficit issue’s weight on the economy necessarily be unthinkable? (those aren’t rhetorical questions, btw, they are real questions demanding real analysis and answers from smart Austrians)&#8221;</p>
<p>Rory, that is only one question and not a real one. Rather it is a Keynesian rhetorical question. Nevertheless, and I don&#8217;t claim to be a smart Austrian, but I will give you a common-sense answer. The reason the nation is in a recession is that government&#8217;s impositions in the form of taxes, deficits, which are taxes on the installment plan and more expensive than current taxes because of the interest required, regulations and monetary manipulations are already so heavy that they have stifled the private-sector&#8217;s vitality for growing the economy. Remember Rory, the private sector produces. Government revenues, regulations and its monetary manipulations are a burden on the private sector that only diminish productive economic activity, and can never produce net economic growth.</p>
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		<title>By: jgo</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796705</link>
		<dc:creator>jgo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 21:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the annual federal government deficit is $1.755T, and federal government debt is upwards of $14.3T, then federal government spending needs to be cut by at least $1.8T per year.  Period.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the annual federal government deficit is $1.755T, and federal government debt is upwards of $14.3T, then federal government spending needs to be cut by at least $1.8T per year.  Period.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/18004/the-most-evil-column-ever/comment-page-1/#comment-796665</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Aug 2011 18:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Krugman believes that war is the health of the State and a good cure for recessions. See: http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/ON_PAUL_KRUGMAN.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Krugman believes that war is the health of the State and a good cure for recessions. See: <a href="http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/ON_PAUL_KRUGMAN.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jesus-on-taxes.com/ON_PAUL_KRUGMAN.html</a></p>
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