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	<title>Comments on: Gresham&#8217;s Law of Manners, or how socialism gives us a rude society</title>
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		<title>By: Dagnytg</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/17688/greshams-law-in-manners/comment-page-1/#comment-792983</link>
		<dc:creator>Dagnytg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:41:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[by the way...fifth paragraph, first sentence, should read anarcho-libertarian...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>by the way&#8230;fifth paragraph, first sentence, should read anarcho-libertarian&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Dagnytg</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/17688/greshams-law-in-manners/comment-page-1/#comment-792981</link>
		<dc:creator>Dagnytg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Though I agree with the essence of the article, I like this quote from a recent article by Leland B. Yeager -&lt;i&gt;Gresham&#039;s Law operates: &quot;the inferior human currency drives the better one out of circulation&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I would say that statement is true regardless of whether the state intervenes or not.  Gresham’s rule, broadly speaking, tends to apply to everything. In other words, when things become easily accessible they become common and standards tend to fall.  

It should be noted that this outcome is not always a negative for society.  In fact, many businesses succeed because they cater to this outcome.

Take for example mises.org.  I’ve noticed a big drop off in comments …especially from people I have blogged with over the last few years.  Most of those people were hardcore anarchists like myself. Even the well-versed minarchists seemed to have left.  Why?

From a mises.org perspective, you’re not going to grow your business catering to the hardcore anarcheo-libertarian.  If you want to attract a broader audience, you need to change the types of articles you post, change your format, and hope you attract fewer hardcore libertarians; replace them with a broader (though less passionate) audience and henceforth increase donations as well as spread the message. (There’s no point in preaching to the choir.)

In the end, Gresham&#039;s Law operates all the time and everywhere with good and bad outcomes.  Though when applied in a sociological sense, one needs to be careful in their interpretation of what is superior and inferior. Subjective analysis like “manners and superior personal image” can lead one down that slippery slope called fascism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Though I agree with the essence of the article, I like this quote from a recent article by Leland B. Yeager -<i>Gresham&#8217;s Law operates: &#8220;the inferior human currency drives the better one out of circulation&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I would say that statement is true regardless of whether the state intervenes or not.  Gresham’s rule, broadly speaking, tends to apply to everything. In other words, when things become easily accessible they become common and standards tend to fall.  </p>
<p>It should be noted that this outcome is not always a negative for society.  In fact, many businesses succeed because they cater to this outcome.</p>
<p>Take for example mises.org.  I’ve noticed a big drop off in comments …especially from people I have blogged with over the last few years.  Most of those people were hardcore anarchists like myself. Even the well-versed minarchists seemed to have left.  Why?</p>
<p>From a mises.org perspective, you’re not going to grow your business catering to the hardcore anarcheo-libertarian.  If you want to attract a broader audience, you need to change the types of articles you post, change your format, and hope you attract fewer hardcore libertarians; replace them with a broader (though less passionate) audience and henceforth increase donations as well as spread the message. (There’s no point in preaching to the choir.)</p>
<p>In the end, Gresham&#8217;s Law operates all the time and everywhere with good and bad outcomes.  Though when applied in a sociological sense, one needs to be careful in their interpretation of what is superior and inferior. Subjective analysis like “manners and superior personal image” can lead one down that slippery slope called fascism.</p>
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		<title>By: Topher</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/17688/greshams-law-in-manners/comment-page-1/#comment-792895</link>
		<dc:creator>Topher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jul 2011 20:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree, great post.  Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, great post.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Marcus Kalka</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/17688/greshams-law-in-manners/comment-page-1/#comment-792789</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcus Kalka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 20:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting post.  Definitely an interesting and thought-provoking take on Gresham&#039;s Law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting post.  Definitely an interesting and thought-provoking take on Gresham&#8217;s Law.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Vann</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/17688/greshams-law-in-manners/comment-page-1/#comment-792762</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Vann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 16:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Excellent post. I&#039;ve attempted to explain that Gresham&#039;s law applies to very specific currency regimes more times than I should have cared to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent post. I&#8217;ve attempted to explain that Gresham&#8217;s law applies to very specific currency regimes more times than I should have cared to.</p>
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		<title>By: Servius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Servius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome. Thanks for the replies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. Thanks for the replies.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 03:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles - By Jesus Huerta de Soto.  It talks about the Medici boom and bust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money, Bank Credit, and Economic Cycles &#8211; By Jesus Huerta de Soto.  It talks about the Medici boom and bust.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Brother</title>
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		<dc:creator>Big Brother</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The State creates this situation and then it’s intelligentzia deplores the abandonment of public/community spaces by some groups who now have to seclude themselves in gated neighborhoods and other discreet spaces in other to enjoy a life of kindness, beauty and truth.&lt;/i&gt;

It&#039;s just a step from that to &quot;we gotta do something&quot;, like forcing people back into those abandoned public spaces.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The State creates this situation and then it’s intelligentzia deplores the abandonment of public/community spaces by some groups who now have to seclude themselves in gated neighborhoods and other discreet spaces in other to enjoy a life of kindness, beauty and truth.</i></p>
<p>It&#8217;s just a step from that to &#8220;we gotta do something&#8221;, like forcing people back into those abandoned public spaces.</p>
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		<title>By: Giovanni P</title>
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		<dc:creator>Giovanni P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 23:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome. This post makes a good book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome. This post makes a good book.</p>
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		<title>By: Capn Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capn Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thus was born the Giuliani myth.

&quot;He chased the lowlifes out of Times Square and made it family friendly&quot;.

Actually, it was the Fed-fueled boom that drove Manhattan real estate valuations through the roof and priced the scumbags out of New York and into Paterson.

But yes, Times Square IS nicer. (or less bad).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thus was born the Giuliani myth.</p>
<p>&#8220;He chased the lowlifes out of Times Square and made it family friendly&#8221;.</p>
<p>Actually, it was the Fed-fueled boom that drove Manhattan real estate valuations through the roof and priced the scumbags out of New York and into Paterson.</p>
<p>But yes, Times Square IS nicer. (or less bad).</p>
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		<title>By: augusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>augusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 21:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[oh, right... Well, from the top of my head all I can think of now is &quot;40 centuries of inflation and price controls&quot; (available in pdf), but I can&#039;t remember whether it covers the specific topic you mentioned.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, right&#8230; Well, from the top of my head all I can think of now is &#8220;40 centuries of inflation and price controls&#8221; (available in pdf), but I can&#8217;t remember whether it covers the specific topic you mentioned.</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Koerber</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bruce Koerber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 20:43:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[True Economic Science Includes Ethics. 

This phenomenon is unquestionably a result of a socialist mentality which is not unrelated to the ego-driven interpretation that occurs as a result of empiricism. And to go further, economics that is separated from ethics is unscientific since it removes the true nature of the human reality; with the consequence being a lack of validity, thereby opening the door wide for the ambitious ego-driven interpreters and interventionists.

That is why free market economics is more than laissez-faire. It is not just a principled argument, and in fact it is beyond mere intellectual argument because it is in its true nature a divine institution that is subject to corruption by any and all human economic intervention.

That corruption shows up as bad fruits such as the ones noted above with regards Gresham&#039;s Law of Manners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True Economic Science Includes Ethics. </p>
<p>This phenomenon is unquestionably a result of a socialist mentality which is not unrelated to the ego-driven interpretation that occurs as a result of empiricism. And to go further, economics that is separated from ethics is unscientific since it removes the true nature of the human reality; with the consequence being a lack of validity, thereby opening the door wide for the ambitious ego-driven interpreters and interventionists.</p>
<p>That is why free market economics is more than laissez-faire. It is not just a principled argument, and in fact it is beyond mere intellectual argument because it is in its true nature a divine institution that is subject to corruption by any and all human economic intervention.</p>
<p>That corruption shows up as bad fruits such as the ones noted above with regards Gresham&#8217;s Law of Manners.</p>
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		<title>By: Servius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Servius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it&#039;s the one I think it is that&#039;s on pre-Adam-Smith economic thought. I&#039;m looking for an Austrian discussion of the boom and bust cycles of the middle ages in particular the effect of the Medici banks when a boom occurred, when the bust occurred, etc.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it&#8217;s the one I think it is that&#8217;s on pre-Adam-Smith economic thought. I&#8217;m looking for an Austrian discussion of the boom and bust cycles of the middle ages in particular the effect of the Medici banks when a boom occurred, when the bust occurred, etc.</p>
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		<title>By: augusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>augusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 19:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Didn&#039;t Rothbard write a series of books covering pre-Adam-Smith economics?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn&#8217;t Rothbard write a series of books covering pre-Adam-Smith economics?</p>
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		<title>By: HL</title>
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		<dc:creator>HL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am old enough to remember public parks as rather civilized places in the Bronx prior to the great social reforms of our beloved uppper classes.  Within the space of a summer, no respectable kid or adult could be found near a public park at any time, day or night.  Hooligans ruled the roost.  

My current home town is starting to experience this, too.

Tick tock, it&#039;s a matter of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am old enough to remember public parks as rather civilized places in the Bronx prior to the great social reforms of our beloved uppper classes.  Within the space of a summer, no respectable kid or adult could be found near a public park at any time, day or night.  Hooligans ruled the roost.  </p>
<p>My current home town is starting to experience this, too.</p>
<p>Tick tock, it&#8217;s a matter of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Servius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Servius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 18:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking of hoarding good money and Gresham&#039;s Law, I was reading a book on the middle ages, particularly the 12th and 13th centuries and it mentioned that people were hoarding gold at one point and also spoke of bank failures and a crash that followed a boom period. The author is no economist and certainly not an Austrian.

Does anyone know of a work on economics of this time from an Austrian perspective.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of hoarding good money and Gresham&#8217;s Law, I was reading a book on the middle ages, particularly the 12th and 13th centuries and it mentioned that people were hoarding gold at one point and also spoke of bank failures and a crash that followed a boom period. The author is no economist and certainly not an Austrian.</p>
<p>Does anyone know of a work on economics of this time from an Austrian perspective.</p>
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