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		<title>By: Gilbert W. Chapman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gilbert W. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 14:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Saw the movie yesterday.  Not Great . . . Not that Bad . . . But . . . There are two incidents reflected in the movie that parallel perfectly events in this country during the past two weeks:

(1) Boeing being told by Obama &amp; Company where the new Dreamliner should (will ?) be built . . . In Washington, rather than South Carolina (a Right to Work state).

(2)  Barney Frank&#039;s attempt to make certain the Fed is entirely controlled by Congress.  (Granted, the Fed is objectionable is in its present form, but his grand idea will make it even worse.) 

Now . . . Was the ticket for admission to &quot;Atlas Shrugged&quot; worth $7.00?  Absolutely!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saw the movie yesterday.  Not Great . . . Not that Bad . . . But . . . There are two incidents reflected in the movie that parallel perfectly events in this country during the past two weeks:</p>
<p>(1) Boeing being told by Obama &amp; Company where the new Dreamliner should (will ?) be built . . . In Washington, rather than South Carolina (a Right to Work state).</p>
<p>(2)  Barney Frank&#8217;s attempt to make certain the Fed is entirely controlled by Congress.  (Granted, the Fed is objectionable is in its present form, but his grand idea will make it even worse.) </p>
<p>Now . . . Was the ticket for admission to &#8220;Atlas Shrugged&#8221; worth $7.00?  Absolutely!</p>
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		<title>By: RHoltslander</title>
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		<dc:creator>RHoltslander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 19:59:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for, what appears to be, a balanced review of this movie.
You&#039;ve saved me the money of seeing this film which sounds pretty badly done. I&#039;ll wait for it to come out in instalments on YouTube or something when I can justify the waste of time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for, what appears to be, a balanced review of this movie.<br />
You&#8217;ve saved me the money of seeing this film which sounds pretty badly done. I&#8217;ll wait for it to come out in instalments on YouTube or something when I can justify the waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert W. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16616/atlas-shrugged-sanitized-and-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-775494</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert W. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 01:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Slight misunderstanding here.

I, like you, feel perfecting any economic system &quot;will always be a work in progess.&quot;

In regard to your belief &quot;that Mises is hands above the rest of the economists&quot;, I can only say that perhaps you are right.  No doubt there were, and still are, many people who felt that Bastiat reached the pinnacle in economics way back in 1850.)

About all we &#039;know&#039; today is that Paul Krugman is unlikely to even be remembered some 160 years from now!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slight misunderstanding here.</p>
<p>I, like you, feel perfecting any economic system &#8220;will always be a work in progess.&#8221;</p>
<p>In regard to your belief &#8220;that Mises is hands above the rest of the economists&#8221;, I can only say that perhaps you are right.  No doubt there were, and still are, many people who felt that Bastiat reached the pinnacle in economics way back in 1850.)</p>
<p>About all we &#8216;know&#8217; today is that Paul Krugman is unlikely to even be remembered some 160 years from now!</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Apr 2011 00:13:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gilbert,
&quot;To my way of thinking, the perfect economic system still has not been conceived. It’s a work in progress.&quot;
Could one believe that if we have a perfect economic system we will have a perfect world? A perfect individual? 
I think it will always be a work in progress because I believe that we will never attain perfection on this orb in the Milky Way.
I do agree with you that there have been many people that have contributed to the mix up to this point in our evolution of economics. I too also try to find the consummate answer to all things, but I am frustrated most of the time. I believe that Mises is hands above the rest of the economists. He understood that KISS, keep it simple stupid works the best.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gilbert,<br />
&#8220;To my way of thinking, the perfect economic system still has not been conceived. It’s a work in progress.&#8221;<br />
Could one believe that if we have a perfect economic system we will have a perfect world? A perfect individual?<br />
I think it will always be a work in progress because I believe that we will never attain perfection on this orb in the Milky Way.<br />
I do agree with you that there have been many people that have contributed to the mix up to this point in our evolution of economics. I too also try to find the consummate answer to all things, but I am frustrated most of the time. I believe that Mises is hands above the rest of the economists. He understood that KISS, keep it simple stupid works the best.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert W. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16616/atlas-shrugged-sanitized-and-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-775452</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert W. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 22:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you, &quot;Dagneytg&quot;; I suspect our reasons are in accord.

I suspect that, to some degree, Mr. French may unfortunately suffer from what many pupils of a gifted economist do ~ Hero Worship.  

In his case it would appear that he believes only in Murray Rothbard, while I must admit that in my case, Dom Armentano (also a contributor of essays to the Mises Institute) was my hero, as well as F.A. Hayek (whom Armentano introduced me to him some 35 years ago).
And, I must admit, I still worship Hayek because he seemed to be more pragmatic than Rothbard.

Unlike Mr. French, however, I&#039;ve never felt that any of the names mentioned ~ Rand, Hayek, Rothbard, or even Mises, had all the answers, so to speak.  Each of them, along with Adam Smith, Fredrick Bastiat, and even Henry George, made significant contributions to economic thought.  And,  Robert Heinlein, the science fiction writer, certainly contributed to the field of economics with his book, &quot;The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress&quot;. 

However, your suggestion that Mr. Tucker &#039;get a handle on things&#039; at the Institute is certainly appropriate.  It seems as if Mr. French, not to mention Thomas Dilorenzo (who seems to love &#039;bashing&#039; such men as Lincoln and Hamilton) have almost gotten to the point of losing the respect that they have rightfully earned by basically saying, &quot;It&#039;s either my way, or the highway.&quot;  And, if my memory serves me correctly, that&#039;s why Ayn Rand received so much harsh criticism.

To my way of thinking, the perfect economic system still has not been conceived. It&#039;s a work in progress. 

In the interim we would do well to praise the individual contributions of each free market economist, as well as such people as the producers of Atlas Shrugged.  At least they have created a movie that might well have a positive impact on our younger Americans, who have been subjected to a continuous barrage of socialist propaganda during the past three decades.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, &#8220;Dagneytg&#8221;; I suspect our reasons are in accord.</p>
<p>I suspect that, to some degree, Mr. French may unfortunately suffer from what many pupils of a gifted economist do ~ Hero Worship.  </p>
<p>In his case it would appear that he believes only in Murray Rothbard, while I must admit that in my case, Dom Armentano (also a contributor of essays to the Mises Institute) was my hero, as well as F.A. Hayek (whom Armentano introduced me to him some 35 years ago).<br />
And, I must admit, I still worship Hayek because he seemed to be more pragmatic than Rothbard.</p>
<p>Unlike Mr. French, however, I&#8217;ve never felt that any of the names mentioned ~ Rand, Hayek, Rothbard, or even Mises, had all the answers, so to speak.  Each of them, along with Adam Smith, Fredrick Bastiat, and even Henry George, made significant contributions to economic thought.  And,  Robert Heinlein, the science fiction writer, certainly contributed to the field of economics with his book, &#8220;The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress&#8221;. </p>
<p>However, your suggestion that Mr. Tucker &#8216;get a handle on things&#8217; at the Institute is certainly appropriate.  It seems as if Mr. French, not to mention Thomas Dilorenzo (who seems to love &#8216;bashing&#8217; such men as Lincoln and Hamilton) have almost gotten to the point of losing the respect that they have rightfully earned by basically saying, &#8220;It&#8217;s either my way, or the highway.&#8221;  And, if my memory serves me correctly, that&#8217;s why Ayn Rand received so much harsh criticism.</p>
<p>To my way of thinking, the perfect economic system still has not been conceived. It&#8217;s a work in progress. </p>
<p>In the interim we would do well to praise the individual contributions of each free market economist, as well as such people as the producers of Atlas Shrugged.  At least they have created a movie that might well have a positive impact on our younger Americans, who have been subjected to a continuous barrage of socialist propaganda during the past three decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagnytg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagnytg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 21:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Actually, Gilbert has a point though I am not sure our reasons are the same.

Let’s forget the Ayn Rand and the Atlas Shrugged issue for a moment and just look at the situation and article.

Remember, the writer of this article is &lt;i&gt; president of the Mises Institute. &lt;/i&gt;

First, the article is poorly written by basic essay standards and more so by the high standards set at mises.org. 

The article is completely rhetorical and lacks any objective analysis or reasoning.  It also lacks cohesiveness which is the standard of a well written essay.   

His critique of the movie, in a strange and awkward way, becomes a critique of Rand.  But that is not the title of the article. In fact, he never really addresses the main idea as set forth by the title.

Furthermore, (and most embarrassing) is the self promotion of his friend, the psychic, (Mystic Mona).  This is personal information we don’t need to know and is inappropriate.  Linking to her from mises.org (a site dedicated to the serious discussion of liberty and reason) is a major blunder if not an apparent character flaw. (Remember this is from the president of the Mises Institute not some writer off the grid.)

Jeffrey Tucker needs to reign in the mises inner circle and decide what direction the site wants to take and what standards of writing are to be expected from everyone…including the president of the institute. 

Note:
I see today, Doug got back on the wagon and wrote about something he knows…home mortgages… Thank God.

I like Doug French, his articles, and lectures and I’ll assume he had too many jelly beans for Easter and it affected his reasoning skills.  He’s forgiven.

I just hope this article is not an indication of the future here at mises.org.  Perhaps we should consult Mystic Mona.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, Gilbert has a point though I am not sure our reasons are the same.</p>
<p>Let’s forget the Ayn Rand and the Atlas Shrugged issue for a moment and just look at the situation and article.</p>
<p>Remember, the writer of this article is <i> president of the Mises Institute. </i></p>
<p>First, the article is poorly written by basic essay standards and more so by the high standards set at mises.org. </p>
<p>The article is completely rhetorical and lacks any objective analysis or reasoning.  It also lacks cohesiveness which is the standard of a well written essay.   </p>
<p>His critique of the movie, in a strange and awkward way, becomes a critique of Rand.  But that is not the title of the article. In fact, he never really addresses the main idea as set forth by the title.</p>
<p>Furthermore, (and most embarrassing) is the self promotion of his friend, the psychic, (Mystic Mona).  This is personal information we don’t need to know and is inappropriate.  Linking to her from mises.org (a site dedicated to the serious discussion of liberty and reason) is a major blunder if not an apparent character flaw. (Remember this is from the president of the Mises Institute not some writer off the grid.)</p>
<p>Jeffrey Tucker needs to reign in the mises inner circle and decide what direction the site wants to take and what standards of writing are to be expected from everyone…including the president of the institute. </p>
<p>Note:<br />
I see today, Doug got back on the wagon and wrote about something he knows…home mortgages… Thank God.</p>
<p>I like Doug French, his articles, and lectures and I’ll assume he had too many jelly beans for Easter and it affected his reasoning skills.  He’s forgiven.</p>
<p>I just hope this article is not an indication of the future here at mises.org.  Perhaps we should consult Mystic Mona.</p>
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		<title>By: integral</title>
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		<dc:creator>integral</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 13:29:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lol, this is pathetic...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lol, this is pathetic&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert W. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16616/atlas-shrugged-sanitized-and-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-775288</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert W. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 12:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good Morning, Mr. French ~

Let&#039;s face it:  You owe all libertarians, objectivists, capitalists and, most of all, Austrians an apology.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Morning, Mr. French ~</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it:  You owe all libertarians, objectivists, capitalists and, most of all, Austrians an apology.</p>
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		<title>By: Dagnytg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dagnytg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:01:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here’s the deal with Doug’s review (aside from promoting a mystic who appears to be a personal friend) if you’re someone who understands a Rand novel, you know it’s about ideals and ethical values and those ideals/values are represented through characters in her novels. 

If you can’t critique the movie based on that criteria, then you have no business commenting on the subject.  It’s apparent to me and perhaps others that Doug has ventured into an area that is not his expertise.  

Outside of the silly notion that Randians are going to flock to this movie and dress up like “The Rocky Horror Picture Show”, he seems fixated on cigarettes and drinking and to be honest I don’t remember (and don’t care about ) those things from reading the novel…but then I was immersed into the characters and the values they represented…

I have always taken a rather elitist view, that when it comes to Rand, you either get it or you don’t and most people don’t get it… and I’m afraid Doug French is in that group.

If you want a more balanced and intelligent review, then I suggest this one by J. Patrick Rhamey Jr. 
http://mises.org/daily/5218/The-Continued-Relevance-of-Rands-Villains

Perhaps if Doug had consulted his mystic friend, she could have forewarned him … then again, maybe he did and this is the result...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here’s the deal with Doug’s review (aside from promoting a mystic who appears to be a personal friend) if you’re someone who understands a Rand novel, you know it’s about ideals and ethical values and those ideals/values are represented through characters in her novels. </p>
<p>If you can’t critique the movie based on that criteria, then you have no business commenting on the subject.  It’s apparent to me and perhaps others that Doug has ventured into an area that is not his expertise.  </p>
<p>Outside of the silly notion that Randians are going to flock to this movie and dress up like “The Rocky Horror Picture Show”, he seems fixated on cigarettes and drinking and to be honest I don’t remember (and don’t care about ) those things from reading the novel…but then I was immersed into the characters and the values they represented…</p>
<p>I have always taken a rather elitist view, that when it comes to Rand, you either get it or you don’t and most people don’t get it… and I’m afraid Doug French is in that group.</p>
<p>If you want a more balanced and intelligent review, then I suggest this one by J. Patrick Rhamey Jr.<br />
<a href="http://mises.org/daily/5218/The-Continued-Relevance-of-Rands-Villains" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/daily/5218/The-Continued-Relevance-of-Rands-Villains</a></p>
<p>Perhaps if Doug had consulted his mystic friend, she could have forewarned him … then again, maybe he did and this is the result&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Donohue</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Donohue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 09:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samantha if you detect what appears to be a contradiction, check you premises. I will point your attention to this one in particular:

&#039;&quot;... literary and philosophical widely known defender[..] of capitalism and freedom.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samantha if you detect what appears to be a contradiction, check you premises. I will point your attention to this one in particular:</p>
<p>&#8216;&#8221;&#8230; literary and philosophical widely known defender[..] of capitalism and freedom.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Samantha Atkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samantha Atkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 07:29:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what you all&#039;s problem was down in Georgia.  I saw it in San Jose on opening night.  The theater was packed.  People cheered during various scenes.  I certainly agree it could have been a lot better and that some of the acting left much to be desired.  But I thought Dagny Taggart and Hank Rearden were well cast.   Overall this review was far more tedious than the move.  I would expect much better toward one of the few literary and philosophical widely known defenders of capitalism and freedom.  Again, yes, the movie did not do the book or Ayn Rand justice.  But it was much better than this review.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what you all&#8217;s problem was down in Georgia.  I saw it in San Jose on opening night.  The theater was packed.  People cheered during various scenes.  I certainly agree it could have been a lot better and that some of the acting left much to be desired.  But I thought Dagny Taggart and Hank Rearden were well cast.   Overall this review was far more tedious than the move.  I would expect much better toward one of the few literary and philosophical widely known defenders of capitalism and freedom.  Again, yes, the movie did not do the book or Ayn Rand justice.  But it was much better than this review.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 04:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[French was just somewhat critical of &lt;i&gt;the movie&lt;/i&gt; and some of you are taking it way too personally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French was just somewhat critical of <i>the movie</i> and some of you are taking it way too personally.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrhuh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrhuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 03:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I finally saw the movie tonight and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised.  It was by no means epic and some of the acting was a little stiff...at first.  It actually did get a little better however as the movie went on.  And some of the archetypes presented are almost a direct reflection of the real world with the limousine liberals and &quot;compassionate&quot; politicians who think that even if some new technology doesn&#039;t physically harm the populace, then it presents some &quot;social threat&quot; to them.  If they did take a few rather ridiculous details out of the book, such as dollar-shaped cigarette butts, then such a thing only served to make it more believable.  Honestly folks, dollar-sign shaped cigarette butts?  More like Gordon Gekko (a crony capitalist if there ever was one) than some honest entrepreneur.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I finally saw the movie tonight and I must say that I was pleasantly surprised.  It was by no means epic and some of the acting was a little stiff&#8230;at first.  It actually did get a little better however as the movie went on.  And some of the archetypes presented are almost a direct reflection of the real world with the limousine liberals and &#8220;compassionate&#8221; politicians who think that even if some new technology doesn&#8217;t physically harm the populace, then it presents some &#8220;social threat&#8221; to them.  If they did take a few rather ridiculous details out of the book, such as dollar-shaped cigarette butts, then such a thing only served to make it more believable.  Honestly folks, dollar-sign shaped cigarette butts?  More like Gordon Gekko (a crony capitalist if there ever was one) than some honest entrepreneur.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;danced on Ayn Rand’s grave, are either incredible lazy and stupid or viciously hypocritical&quot;

I&#039;m very confident in saying Rand would have been extremely disappointed in what was done with her novel.    She deserved better and many of the reviewers noted such fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;danced on Ayn Rand’s grave, are either incredible lazy and stupid or viciously hypocritical&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very confident in saying Rand would have been extremely disappointed in what was done with her novel.    She deserved better and many of the reviewers noted such fact.</p>
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		<title>By: John Donohue</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Donohue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:51:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To you, Mr. French, I award the Smack Me With Faint Praise trophy. That was a masterpiece. I guess you can deploy this type of drip poison when you have several writers under your masthead attacking Ayn Rand, intellectual property rights and capitalism with cyanide buzz bombs.

The leftie blogs like HuffPo and DailyKos...they are shooting off the expected garbage. Several Christian writers have written with such hatred that I expected Jesus to reach down and drag them to hell even if they WERE attacking an atheist.

But the snide and smarmy sideways -- here I self edit the alliterative word that would finish my thought -- dished out by &quot;libertarians&quot; such as Reason and the now the president of the Mises Institute deserves the foulest rotten tomatoes I could find to smash you up.

John Donohue
Pasadena, CA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To you, Mr. French, I award the Smack Me With Faint Praise trophy. That was a masterpiece. I guess you can deploy this type of drip poison when you have several writers under your masthead attacking Ayn Rand, intellectual property rights and capitalism with cyanide buzz bombs.</p>
<p>The leftie blogs like HuffPo and DailyKos&#8230;they are shooting off the expected garbage. Several Christian writers have written with such hatred that I expected Jesus to reach down and drag them to hell even if they WERE attacking an atheist.</p>
<p>But the snide and smarmy sideways &#8212; here I self edit the alliterative word that would finish my thought &#8212; dished out by &#8220;libertarians&#8221; such as Reason and the now the president of the Mises Institute deserves the foulest rotten tomatoes I could find to smash you up.</p>
<p>John Donohue<br />
Pasadena, CA</p>
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		<title>By: John Donohue</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Donohue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:32:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To all of you who cited Rotten Tomatoes at 6% without supplying the context: this is so typical of fans of this Institute now. Pick you characterization: you who did that, and then danced on Ayn Rand&#039;s grave, are either incredible lazy and stupid or viciously hypocritical. I&#039;ll let you pick which you are.

30 &quot;official reviews&quot; resulted in the 6% rating.
7431 &quot;moviegoers&quot; resulted in a rating of 85%

And who are these reviewers? You know the answer. 

John Donohue
Pasadena, CA]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all of you who cited Rotten Tomatoes at 6% without supplying the context: this is so typical of fans of this Institute now. Pick you characterization: you who did that, and then danced on Ayn Rand&#8217;s grave, are either incredible lazy and stupid or viciously hypocritical. I&#8217;ll let you pick which you are.</p>
<p>30 &#8220;official reviews&#8221; resulted in the 6% rating.<br />
7431 &#8220;moviegoers&#8221; resulted in a rating of 85%</p>
<p>And who are these reviewers? You know the answer. </p>
<p>John Donohue<br />
Pasadena, CA</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert W. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16616/atlas-shrugged-sanitized-and-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-775192</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert W. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 01:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[H m m m . . . Mr. Viirland . . . You made some very interesting points I had not considered with the winning of an Oscar; and, I generally agree, with one exception.

I don&#039;t ever remember of hearing that Barbara Stanwyck, nor any of the other actors and the actresses you mentioned, would leave our country if a Republican presidential candidate was elected.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>H m m m . . . Mr. Viirland . . . You made some very interesting points I had not considered with the winning of an Oscar; and, I generally agree, with one exception.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t ever remember of hearing that Barbara Stanwyck, nor any of the other actors and the actresses you mentioned, would leave our country if a Republican presidential candidate was elected.</p>
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		<title>By: A. Viirlaid</title>
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		<dc:creator>A. Viirlaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you &lt;b&gt;Gilbert W. Chapman&lt;/b&gt;.

See?

I was indeed uninformed — I got the wrong connotation...

or is it: wrong &#039;ascription&#039;?.

Cheers!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you <b>Gilbert W. Chapman</b>.</p>
<p>See?</p>
<p>I was indeed uninformed — I got the wrong connotation&#8230;</p>
<p>or is it: wrong &#8216;ascription&#8217;?.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: A. Viirlaid</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16616/atlas-shrugged-sanitized-and-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-775184</link>
		<dc:creator>A. Viirlaid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 00:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi &lt;b&gt;Cyclops&lt;/b&gt;...

&lt;blockquote&gt;Let them experience what the world will be like without us who are still valiantly holding things together while letting the spit drip off our faces and watching the looters gamble with civilization itself.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

We (you and I) don&#039;t precisely know where we are going as a Western society.  Heck, we don&#039;t know where we are going as a world.  There are a lot of things that need fixing, not least of all, IMHO, our Broken Money System operated by a Broken Federal Reserve.

Here&#039;s Dr. Ron Paul making that same point in 1983 (!!!)... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hMeNnbSqkk&amp;feature=related

Everyone seemingly has their own worst-case Future Scenario.  &lt;b&gt;&quot;Nineteen Eighty-Four&quot;, &quot;Brave New World&quot;, &quot;Fahrenheit 451&quot;&lt;/b&gt; are just a few.

In his novel &lt;b&gt;Player Piano&lt;/b&gt; Kurt Vonnegut warns of a future that has a rebellion against the automated society...  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano

But an &quot;Automated Society&quot; is probably the only kind of society most of us in the future will know how to survive in.  Very few of us any longer know how to grow our own food, make our own shelter, sew our own clothes, obtain our own clean water, and so on.  (We do know how to play video games, it seems.) 
We are &quot;babes in the woods&quot; and are easy prey for others if and when things turn nasty, brutish, and uncivilized --- a road, some would argue, we are well along on by now.

As things get tougher, humans tend toward tribalism, much like forming gangs in many inner cities today.

And, as things get tougher, Central Governments tend to get either more ineffectual, or themselves become brutal in their attempts to &quot;hold things together&quot;.  [Look at Syria today.]
Part of that trend to fascism or communism, or whatever you wish to call it, is indeed what you describe with your words as
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Let it be a warning to those who are wanting to tax the rich out of existence.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Heck, my point is, that given conditions extant already TODAY [let alone the future conditions that ATLAS SHRUGGED describes] it won&#039;t only be the so-called &quot;rich&quot;, it will be ALL of us that The Government comes after [and is already coming after].

ATLAS SHRUGGED does have a meaningful message, as you suggest.  
However IMHO we may just be past THAT point, where that message can still be acted on.  We may be past the point where that message is still meaningful in that sense.

While ATLAS SHRUGGED suggests what might happen if the &quot;Productive Class&quot; goes on strike, today we may be at a point where it would be better to prepare for conditions that harken back to a much more primitive time.

And I submit that it will not take the &quot;Productive Class&quot; to go &quot;on strike&quot; for this to unfold.

No, I submit that this will unfold, whether or not that &quot;strike&quot; takes place.

In other words, we did have a chance to listen to Dr. Ron Paul back in 1983 and do something about the future.

TODAY, that Future has already been &quot;baked into the cake&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi <b>Cyclops</b>&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p>Let them experience what the world will be like without us who are still valiantly holding things together while letting the spit drip off our faces and watching the looters gamble with civilization itself.</p></blockquote>
<p>We (you and I) don&#8217;t precisely know where we are going as a Western society.  Heck, we don&#8217;t know where we are going as a world.  There are a lot of things that need fixing, not least of all, IMHO, our Broken Money System operated by a Broken Federal Reserve.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s Dr. Ron Paul making that same point in 1983 (!!!)&#8230; <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hMeNnbSqkk&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hMeNnbSqkk&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Everyone seemingly has their own worst-case Future Scenario.  <b>&#8220;Nineteen Eighty-Four&#8221;, &#8220;Brave New World&#8221;, &#8220;Fahrenheit 451&#8243;</b> are just a few.</p>
<p>In his novel <b>Player Piano</b> Kurt Vonnegut warns of a future that has a rebellion against the automated society&#8230;  <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Player_Piano</a></p>
<p>But an &#8220;Automated Society&#8221; is probably the only kind of society most of us in the future will know how to survive in.  Very few of us any longer know how to grow our own food, make our own shelter, sew our own clothes, obtain our own clean water, and so on.  (We do know how to play video games, it seems.)<br />
We are &#8220;babes in the woods&#8221; and are easy prey for others if and when things turn nasty, brutish, and uncivilized &#8212; a road, some would argue, we are well along on by now.</p>
<p>As things get tougher, humans tend toward tribalism, much like forming gangs in many inner cities today.</p>
<p>And, as things get tougher, Central Governments tend to get either more ineffectual, or themselves become brutal in their attempts to &#8220;hold things together&#8221;.  [Look at Syria today.]<br />
Part of that trend to fascism or communism, or whatever you wish to call it, is indeed what you describe with your words as</p>
<blockquote><p>
Let it be a warning to those who are wanting to tax the rich out of existence.
</p></blockquote>
<p>Heck, my point is, that given conditions extant already TODAY [let alone the future conditions that ATLAS SHRUGGED describes] it won&#8217;t only be the so-called &#8220;rich&#8221;, it will be ALL of us that The Government comes after [and is already coming after].</p>
<p>ATLAS SHRUGGED does have a meaningful message, as you suggest.<br />
However IMHO we may just be past THAT point, where that message can still be acted on.  We may be past the point where that message is still meaningful in that sense.</p>
<p>While ATLAS SHRUGGED suggests what might happen if the &#8220;Productive Class&#8221; goes on strike, today we may be at a point where it would be better to prepare for conditions that harken back to a much more primitive time.</p>
<p>And I submit that it will not take the &#8220;Productive Class&#8221; to go &#8220;on strike&#8221; for this to unfold.</p>
<p>No, I submit that this will unfold, whether or not that &#8220;strike&#8221; takes place.</p>
<p>In other words, we did have a chance to listen to Dr. Ron Paul back in 1983 and do something about the future.</p>
<p>TODAY, that Future has already been &#8220;baked into the cake&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Gilbert W. Chapman</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16616/atlas-shrugged-sanitized-and-on-the-fly/comment-page-1/#comment-775179</link>
		<dc:creator>Gilbert W. Chapman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 23:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Fox, no doubt, was referring to Atlas Shrugged as the movie that was produced after Miss Rand&#039;s death, not Fountainhead.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Fox, no doubt, was referring to Atlas Shrugged as the movie that was produced after Miss Rand&#8217;s death, not Fountainhead.</p>
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