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		<title>By: John James</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-777264</link>
		<dc:creator>John James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 May 2011 08:27:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seriously it&#039;s like some mad scientist went out to genetically engineer the purest form of human douchebag imaginable, and succeeded with flying colors.

&quot;That&#039;s good, you answered my question with a &lt;i&gt;fact&lt;/i&gt;, very nice.  Very nice.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously it&#8217;s like some mad scientist went out to genetically engineer the purest form of human douchebag imaginable, and succeeded with flying colors.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s good, you answered my question with a <i>fact</i>, very nice.  Very nice.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-776896</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 May 2011 02:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jeremiah, Gasoline is increasing in its dollar cost because the price of oil, from which gasoline is refined, is rising. And the price of oil (and thus the gasoline you purchase) is rising because oil is bought and sold with dollars, and the government, by engaging in inflationary practices through the actions of the Federal Reserve, has been eroding the value of the dollar as compared to oil (and lots of other commodities like gold, coffee, silver, palladium, food, etc.) So it is not the case that gasoline is increasing in value but that your dollars are declining in value, so you get less gas per buck, or put another way, the dollar price alone is rising because the dollar has become worth less. Obviously, speculators are not to blame for the Fed inflating the supply of dollars.

Perhaps you would have a better understanding of what is happening to the the price of gasoline and why if you compare the price of gasoline to the price of gold. Why gold? Because gold is real money and it is the one commodity most people look to as a hedge against dollar devaluation (aka, inflation). A year ago (5/2/10) gasoline was $2.93 per gallon (average US price) and today (5/2/11) it is $3.93. A year ago, gold was $1170  per ounce and today it is $1540 per ounce. If you do the math you will see that the price of gasoline in terms of dollars is up by 34 percent, but in terms of gold gasoline is only up about 2 percent, or virtually unchanged. So you see, it could be said that gasoline really hasn&#039;t increased in price, rather those US dollars of yours are rapidly losing their purchasing power.

Jeremiah, are you not a speculator yourself? I know I am. Suppose you go by your neighborhood gas station in the AM and notice the price: $3.50. During the day you learn that oil on the NY Merc has increased by a whopping $10.00 a barrel. On the way home you see the price of gasoline at  your local gas station is unchanged. My guess is that if you have some room in the tank of your car and money or a credit card in your pocket, you will pull in and fill up your tank before the price increases, which, based on your experience, you know it will. That is usually called being prudent but it is really speculating!

Speculators in oil may be affecting the price of oil because they anticipate that the Fed will keep on devaluing the dollar, so it is simply prudent to buy and hold oil or gasoline off the market in anticipation of the Fed&#039;s reckless behavior. As long as government is in control of the money supply, and there are idiot savants like Krugman with the ear of the government, there will be inflation. Anyone who is forced to do business in dollars finds it prudent to hedge against inflation as best one can. The prudent ones will be decried as speculators by those who do not understand economics, but they will not be impoverished by inflation as their wining detractors will be.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremiah, Gasoline is increasing in its dollar cost because the price of oil, from which gasoline is refined, is rising. And the price of oil (and thus the gasoline you purchase) is rising because oil is bought and sold with dollars, and the government, by engaging in inflationary practices through the actions of the Federal Reserve, has been eroding the value of the dollar as compared to oil (and lots of other commodities like gold, coffee, silver, palladium, food, etc.) So it is not the case that gasoline is increasing in value but that your dollars are declining in value, so you get less gas per buck, or put another way, the dollar price alone is rising because the dollar has become worth less. Obviously, speculators are not to blame for the Fed inflating the supply of dollars.</p>
<p>Perhaps you would have a better understanding of what is happening to the the price of gasoline and why if you compare the price of gasoline to the price of gold. Why gold? Because gold is real money and it is the one commodity most people look to as a hedge against dollar devaluation (aka, inflation). A year ago (5/2/10) gasoline was $2.93 per gallon (average US price) and today (5/2/11) it is $3.93. A year ago, gold was $1170  per ounce and today it is $1540 per ounce. If you do the math you will see that the price of gasoline in terms of dollars is up by 34 percent, but in terms of gold gasoline is only up about 2 percent, or virtually unchanged. So you see, it could be said that gasoline really hasn&#8217;t increased in price, rather those US dollars of yours are rapidly losing their purchasing power.</p>
<p>Jeremiah, are you not a speculator yourself? I know I am. Suppose you go by your neighborhood gas station in the AM and notice the price: $3.50. During the day you learn that oil on the NY Merc has increased by a whopping $10.00 a barrel. On the way home you see the price of gasoline at  your local gas station is unchanged. My guess is that if you have some room in the tank of your car and money or a credit card in your pocket, you will pull in and fill up your tank before the price increases, which, based on your experience, you know it will. That is usually called being prudent but it is really speculating!</p>
<p>Speculators in oil may be affecting the price of oil because they anticipate that the Fed will keep on devaluing the dollar, so it is simply prudent to buy and hold oil or gasoline off the market in anticipation of the Fed&#8217;s reckless behavior. As long as government is in control of the money supply, and there are idiot savants like Krugman with the ear of the government, there will be inflation. Anyone who is forced to do business in dollars finds it prudent to hedge against inflation as best one can. The prudent ones will be decried as speculators by those who do not understand economics, but they will not be impoverished by inflation as their wining detractors will be.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremiah Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremiah Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2011 08:56:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So if the speculators aren&#039;t to blame, what is? There&#039;s currently NO supply problem going on here in the nation. The oil companies have BILLIONS of barrels stockpiled at this point in time. There&#039;s NO issues of supply and demand is as high as ever.

If the prices were driven by &quot;supply-demand&quot;, then why in the hell are gas prices CONTINUING TO RISE!?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So if the speculators aren&#8217;t to blame, what is? There&#8217;s currently NO supply problem going on here in the nation. The oil companies have BILLIONS of barrels stockpiled at this point in time. There&#8217;s NO issues of supply and demand is as high as ever.</p>
<p>If the prices were driven by &#8220;supply-demand&#8221;, then why in the hell are gas prices CONTINUING TO RISE!?</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-775316</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You might try a search of the Mises site. There are probably some articles addressing the subject, and L / W may have that kind of info as well as trading. Maybe not. Sorry I can&#039;t be of much help. Maybe someone else will see our discussion and jump in, but unfortunately this thread is waning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You might try a search of the Mises site. There are probably some articles addressing the subject, and L / W may have that kind of info as well as trading. Maybe not. Sorry I can&#8217;t be of much help. Maybe someone else will see our discussion and jump in, but unfortunately this thread is waning.</p>
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		<title>By: tfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 14:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, however I&#039;m looking for an understanding of how and why futures markets absorb risk and shocks to the system, through pricing, rather than an understanding of how to trade futures. I can&#039;t imagine trading futures is much different than trading stocks, with which I am familiar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, however I&#8217;m looking for an understanding of how and why futures markets absorb risk and shocks to the system, through pricing, rather than an understanding of how to trade futures. I can&#8217;t imagine trading futures is much different than trading stocks, with which I am familiar.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-775211</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 02:46:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The firm of Lind / Waldock, which has a presence on the web, can probably give you a basic course in trading futures and answer any and all of your questions. I haven&#039;t traded commodities since the 1970s, and back then I used L / W as my broker with very good results, but that was too long ago for me to endorse them now. http://www.lind-waldock.com/new_to_futures.shtml]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The firm of Lind / Waldock, which has a presence on the web, can probably give you a basic course in trading futures and answer any and all of your questions. I haven&#8217;t traded commodities since the 1970s, and back then I used L / W as my broker with very good results, but that was too long ago for me to endorse them now. <a href="http://www.lind-waldock.com/new_to_futures.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.lind-waldock.com/new_to_futures.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: tfr</title>
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		<dc:creator>tfr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Apr 2011 18:06:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Could someone who is fluent in futures trading write us a &quot;futures for dummies&quot;? Perhaps something along the lines of &quot;futures markets are like auto insurance because...&quot;
I&#039;m having trouble fully understanding this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could someone who is fluent in futures trading write us a &#8220;futures for dummies&#8221;? Perhaps something along the lines of &#8220;futures markets are like auto insurance because&#8230;&#8221;<br />
I&#8217;m having trouble fully understanding this.</p>
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		<title>By: billwald</title>
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		<dc:creator>billwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree! Why should retailers sell for less than customers are willing to pay? 

Some retailers use the gas as a loss leader and make their money on beer and ciggybutts. They set the bottom price in an area.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree! Why should retailers sell for less than customers are willing to pay? </p>
<p>Some retailers use the gas as a loss leader and make their money on beer and ciggybutts. They set the bottom price in an area.</p>
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		<title>By: billwald</title>
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		<dc:creator>billwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:52:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Long time ago my grandfather bought stocks in sound companies which sold a good product at a fair price. These days most stocks are traded by computers that don&#039;t read annual reports. When I was a kid I loved to look at the pictures in the annual reports.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Long time ago my grandfather bought stocks in sound companies which sold a good product at a fair price. These days most stocks are traded by computers that don&#8217;t read annual reports. When I was a kid I loved to look at the pictures in the annual reports.</p>
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		<title>By: billwald</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-774863</link>
		<dc:creator>billwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Apr 2011 02:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sounds reasonable, sort of.

Fuel prices rise 30% and sales drop 3%. Prices are to low. Anyone who says it is because of an inelastic demand is not thinking clearly. Most people don&#039;t buy a car for transportation but to create a public image.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds reasonable, sort of.</p>
<p>Fuel prices rise 30% and sales drop 3%. Prices are to low. Anyone who says it is because of an inelastic demand is not thinking clearly. Most people don&#8217;t buy a car for transportation but to create a public image.</p>
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		<title>By: Saildog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saildog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For the record I also think the speculator argument is rubbish. I also agree that equities and commodity prices are being driven higher by QE (or your own epithet of choice). What is more interesting is that no one has mentioned good old supply and demand. In October 2004, the quarter when oil supply last increased, prices were around $55 per barrel. Supply has remained more or less constant since then yet prices have been as low as $35 per barrel, as high as $147 per barrel and are currently around $111. Clearly supply is more or less completely inelastic and whatever is produced is taken up at the prevailing price. This begs the question: Why hasn&#039;t oil supply increased? Could it possibly be that it cannot increase? That geological constraints and the associated human feed back loops (government interference, war, high food prices, riots, exploding oil rigs, insufficient trained people, ageing infrastructure  etc) means that it will never increase again?

What if that is the case? There are no substitutes. No combination of nuclear, used french fry oil, wind, shale gas, tar sands or anything else packs the punch oil does. After all, it the reason the US has meddled in the Middle East for so long (badly). We have a limited buffer of greater efficiency, but we are essentially in uncharted waters. 

If you asked my opinion for the faltering recovery I think it is high gas prices. According to Liebigs Law of the Minimum, this is now the limiting factor on the economy. We will see alternate periods of recession and recovery closely fallowing the rising and falling oil price.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the record I also think the speculator argument is rubbish. I also agree that equities and commodity prices are being driven higher by QE (or your own epithet of choice). What is more interesting is that no one has mentioned good old supply and demand. In October 2004, the quarter when oil supply last increased, prices were around $55 per barrel. Supply has remained more or less constant since then yet prices have been as low as $35 per barrel, as high as $147 per barrel and are currently around $111. Clearly supply is more or less completely inelastic and whatever is produced is taken up at the prevailing price. This begs the question: Why hasn&#8217;t oil supply increased? Could it possibly be that it cannot increase? That geological constraints and the associated human feed back loops (government interference, war, high food prices, riots, exploding oil rigs, insufficient trained people, ageing infrastructure  etc) means that it will never increase again?</p>
<p>What if that is the case? There are no substitutes. No combination of nuclear, used french fry oil, wind, shale gas, tar sands or anything else packs the punch oil does. After all, it the reason the US has meddled in the Middle East for so long (badly). We have a limited buffer of greater efficiency, but we are essentially in uncharted waters. </p>
<p>If you asked my opinion for the faltering recovery I think it is high gas prices. According to Liebigs Law of the Minimum, this is now the limiting factor on the economy. We will see alternate periods of recession and recovery closely fallowing the rising and falling oil price.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 07:32:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While that&#039;s true, anyone with a brain can see the folly of the SPR]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While that&#8217;s true, anyone with a brain can see the folly of the SPR</p>
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		<title>By: Walt D.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Walt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 06:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is eerie - straight out of Nazi Germany and the old Soviet Union. The Justice Department is becoming the Gestapo. The administration is strong-arming companies, like threatening bond holders not to pursue their rightful priority, like forcing BP to not only pay for the Gulf spill cleanup, but also forcing them to pay for costs associated with the (unnecessary) ban on drilling in shallow water, and now using the Justice Department to go and see if they can trump up charges against speculators. The country is down the toilet when the government does not respect the rule of law and makes capricious decisions and uses the &quot;Justice ? &quot; Department to go after enemies and find scapegoats.
This goes way beyond being wrong about speculators from an economic point of view.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is eerie &#8211; straight out of Nazi Germany and the old Soviet Union. The Justice Department is becoming the Gestapo. The administration is strong-arming companies, like threatening bond holders not to pursue their rightful priority, like forcing BP to not only pay for the Gulf spill cleanup, but also forcing them to pay for costs associated with the (unnecessary) ban on drilling in shallow water, and now using the Justice Department to go and see if they can trump up charges against speculators. The country is down the toilet when the government does not respect the rule of law and makes capricious decisions and uses the &#8220;Justice ? &#8221; Department to go after enemies and find scapegoats.<br />
This goes way beyond being wrong about speculators from an economic point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Apr 2011 05:24:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speculators stabilize prices by aligning supply with the (predicted) future demand. The instability is a result of an uncertain future... absent speculators things would be worse.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speculators stabilize prices by aligning supply with the (predicted) future demand. The instability is a result of an uncertain future&#8230; absent speculators things would be worse.</p>
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		<title>By: Ned Netterville</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-774587</link>
		<dc:creator>Ned Netterville</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 21:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the end of his interview describing how speculators--not supply and demand factors--are driving up the price of gasoline at the pump, Chris Cuomo asks rhetorically: &quot;What better [problem] to address than this?&quot;

I don&#039;t suppose anyone here will be surprised to learn today (Good Friday) that Obama has appointed a task force headed by the attorney general to look into how speculation is contributing to the run up in gasoline prices! (I don&#039;t suppose an investigator from DOJ will bother to question Bernanke about his role in the &quot;fraudulent&quot; run up in the price at the pump.) The timing of Cuomo&#039;s report and Obama&#039;s announcement of forming a task force is interesting. Do you suppose Obama got his cue from Chris Cuomo, or vice versa? 

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-21/obama-says-u-s-team-to-study-whether-speculators-driving-up-pump-prices.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the end of his interview describing how speculators&#8211;not supply and demand factors&#8211;are driving up the price of gasoline at the pump, Chris Cuomo asks rhetorically: &#8220;What better [problem] to address than this?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t suppose anyone here will be surprised to learn today (Good Friday) that Obama has appointed a task force headed by the attorney general to look into how speculation is contributing to the run up in gasoline prices! (I don&#8217;t suppose an investigator from DOJ will bother to question Bernanke about his role in the &#8220;fraudulent&#8221; run up in the price at the pump.) The timing of Cuomo&#8217;s report and Obama&#8217;s announcement of forming a task force is interesting. Do you suppose Obama got his cue from Chris Cuomo, or vice versa? </p>
<p><a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-21/obama-says-u-s-team-to-study-whether-speculators-driving-up-pump-prices.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-21/obama-says-u-s-team-to-study-whether-speculators-driving-up-pump-prices.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 20:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What we have seen in the commodity markets generally, and the oil market as a sub-set, is what happens at the zero bound of dollar interest rates when the printing presses get rolling and investors lose confidence in the currency.

The present correlated commodity bubble has little to do with speculators in search of transaction profit, although they have entered the oil market following recent geopolitical events thereby causing a &#039;spike&#039;.

In every organised commodity market where financial buyers may participate - generally via the new breeds of exchange traded funds and structured finance products - we have seen the entry of &#039;inflation hedger&#039; investors who are off-loading the risk of holding dollars in favour of holding commodities. 

The motivation of these investors who are buying anything but dollars is fear, not greed, and their presence in the market since 1995 (when Goldman set up the GSCI fund) has gradually led to the markets becoming financialised and parting company from the real world of physical supply and demand.

In the oil markets, the advent of new techniques enabling financial oil leasing  - where funds lend dollars to producers and producers lend oil in return to the funds - has meant that oil producers have essentially been able to support the oil price at the upper bound where demand destruction sets in.  

Ask yourself Cui Bono from high oil prices? 

If the history of commodity markets - eg the tin crisis of 1985; the Hamanaka copper manipulation; cocoa, coffee and diamond cartels and monopolies - tells us anything it is that if producers CAN support prices then they WILL.  By using dollars borrowed interest-free from risk averse inflation hedgers the producers have been making out like bandits.

But as I forecast in the conclusion of my article in Asia Times last year, 

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LA16Ak02.html

the market is now, I believe, suffering a de-stabilising shock and &#039;spike&#039;, and a dramatic collapse of the market price to the lower bound is IMHO inevitable sooner rather than later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What we have seen in the commodity markets generally, and the oil market as a sub-set, is what happens at the zero bound of dollar interest rates when the printing presses get rolling and investors lose confidence in the currency.</p>
<p>The present correlated commodity bubble has little to do with speculators in search of transaction profit, although they have entered the oil market following recent geopolitical events thereby causing a &#8216;spike&#8217;.</p>
<p>In every organised commodity market where financial buyers may participate &#8211; generally via the new breeds of exchange traded funds and structured finance products &#8211; we have seen the entry of &#8216;inflation hedger&#8217; investors who are off-loading the risk of holding dollars in favour of holding commodities. </p>
<p>The motivation of these investors who are buying anything but dollars is fear, not greed, and their presence in the market since 1995 (when Goldman set up the GSCI fund) has gradually led to the markets becoming financialised and parting company from the real world of physical supply and demand.</p>
<p>In the oil markets, the advent of new techniques enabling financial oil leasing  &#8211; where funds lend dollars to producers and producers lend oil in return to the funds &#8211; has meant that oil producers have essentially been able to support the oil price at the upper bound where demand destruction sets in.  </p>
<p>Ask yourself Cui Bono from high oil prices? </p>
<p>If the history of commodity markets &#8211; eg the tin crisis of 1985; the Hamanaka copper manipulation; cocoa, coffee and diamond cartels and monopolies &#8211; tells us anything it is that if producers CAN support prices then they WILL.  By using dollars borrowed interest-free from risk averse inflation hedgers the producers have been making out like bandits.</p>
<p>But as I forecast in the conclusion of my article in Asia Times last year, </p>
<p><a href="http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LA16Ak02.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Middle_East/LA16Ak02.html</a></p>
<p>the market is now, I believe, suffering a de-stabilising shock and &#8216;spike&#8217;, and a dramatic collapse of the market price to the lower bound is IMHO inevitable sooner rather than later.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Fighter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the price goes up and we don&#039;t like it, the speculators are the ones who buy and hold, hoping to sell at a higher price.

When the price goes down and we don&#039;t like it, the speculators are the ones selling and short selling hoping to stop losses or make money in a down market.

The &quot;speculator&quot; are always the ones we think are making money off our backs.

In reality, there is two sides to a transaction and speculation affects speculation, not the consumers.

Speculators have contract term limits and must sell before the contract ends or face the consequences of having to take delivery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the price goes up and we don&#8217;t like it, the speculators are the ones who buy and hold, hoping to sell at a higher price.</p>
<p>When the price goes down and we don&#8217;t like it, the speculators are the ones selling and short selling hoping to stop losses or make money in a down market.</p>
<p>The &#8220;speculator&#8221; are always the ones we think are making money off our backs.</p>
<p>In reality, there is two sides to a transaction and speculation affects speculation, not the consumers.</p>
<p>Speculators have contract term limits and must sell before the contract ends or face the consequences of having to take delivery.</p>
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		<title>By: Walt D.</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-774477</link>
		<dc:creator>Walt D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 15:05:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[While we are on the topic of finding a scapegoat for stupid government policy, the Prime Minister of Greece appears to have found a new one!
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gXVOXv63k4RT8thlLeP9zpKMHgrw?docId=481394dcda814ac2a968637cf99f7013]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While we are on the topic of finding a scapegoat for stupid government policy, the Prime Minister of Greece appears to have found a new one!<br />
<a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gXVOXv63k4RT8thlLeP9zpKMHgrw?docId=481394dcda814ac2a968637cf99f7013" rel="nofollow">http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gXVOXv63k4RT8thlLeP9zpKMHgrw?docId=481394dcda814ac2a968637cf99f7013</a></p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Fighter</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-774475</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:53:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hoarding is not evil, what is being hoarded now will be released and made available later. Nothing is forever. Had the oil not been hoarded in the past, it would not be available in the future.

It&#039;s like Keynesians who frown upon saving money. Well, savings are delayed consumption, delayed spending and delayed investments. What people don&#039;t spend now, they will spend later.

Instead of complaining about saving, take advantage of the actual saving to invest for future spending and consumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hoarding is not evil, what is being hoarded now will be released and made available later. Nothing is forever. Had the oil not been hoarded in the past, it would not be available in the future.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s like Keynesians who frown upon saving money. Well, savings are delayed consumption, delayed spending and delayed investments. What people don&#8217;t spend now, they will spend later.</p>
<p>Instead of complaining about saving, take advantage of the actual saving to invest for future spending and consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Freedom Fighter</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/16587/when-in-doubt-blame-the-speculators-%e2%80%93-again/comment-page-1/#comment-774473</link>
		<dc:creator>Freedom Fighter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speculators have no real effects on the price of gas.

Take the price of gas as a product of supply and demand, supply from the manufacturer and demand from the end user. Let&#039;s say we have a price graph in front of us showing the natural supply &amp; demand price evolution.

Well, speculators seeing an upside might buy and hold and drive the price up, but at some point they will have to sell to take profits and sell to take their losses and drive the price down.

Speculators bring volatility, but it&#039;s in the forms of higher highs and lower lows. It all averages around the natural commodities market and in the long run, end users who buy at regular intervals don&#039;t see the effect of speculation.

Speculators affect speculators, not consumers.

Because of speculators, you will now pay a higher price than normal for gasoline, but later down the road you will pay a lower price for gasoline. It all evens up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speculators have no real effects on the price of gas.</p>
<p>Take the price of gas as a product of supply and demand, supply from the manufacturer and demand from the end user. Let&#8217;s say we have a price graph in front of us showing the natural supply &amp; demand price evolution.</p>
<p>Well, speculators seeing an upside might buy and hold and drive the price up, but at some point they will have to sell to take profits and sell to take their losses and drive the price down.</p>
<p>Speculators bring volatility, but it&#8217;s in the forms of higher highs and lower lows. It all averages around the natural commodities market and in the long run, end users who buy at regular intervals don&#8217;t see the effect of speculation.</p>
<p>Speculators affect speculators, not consumers.</p>
<p>Because of speculators, you will now pay a higher price than normal for gasoline, but later down the road you will pay a lower price for gasoline. It all evens up.</p>
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