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Source link: http://archive.mises.org/16576/the-freedom-to-cross-a-border/

The Freedom to Cross a Border

April 21, 2011 by

A DUI is now one of the infractions that can cause a de facto iron curtain to fall across the Canadian-US border, separating friends and family members; other infractions include possession of marijuana, possession of a medical-marijuana card, shoplifting, and an arrest for attending a peace rally.

FULL ARTICLE by Wendy McElroy

{ 28 comments }

Grant April 21, 2011 at 9:54 am

There’s a third option as an anarchist: Civil disobedience. Cross anyway. It’s the longest border in the world with lots and lots of un- or sparsely inhabited land.

BioTube April 21, 2011 at 10:16 am

TERRORIST!

victor April 22, 2011 at 7:50 am

Achtung! Walter Ulbricht clones have not yet mined the borders, and issued, “Shoot to Kill” Orders… yet. Ten of millions of “undocumented immigrants” do it. Nothing prevents your friend from going to Michigan, Maine,or nine other states and just walk or drive over. Many hunters and friends make the logging road runs (while DWI) across the border.

billwald April 23, 2011 at 9:33 pm

Is it “Libertarian” to go where one is not wanted?

Grant April 24, 2011 at 1:47 pm

It is anarchistic. Don’t know about “Libertarian”, especially the big-L version you’ve used here, as I haven’t used that word nor has anyone else in this thread.

Matthew Swaringen April 24, 2011 at 2:18 pm

On what basis do you say “not wanted?” Because the state doesn’t want you? That’s BS. The private property you cross should have a say, but not the gang that runs the country.

The Anti-Gnostic April 21, 2011 at 10:17 am

LOL. Canada:

– Net tax consumer – check
– Alien, antithetical ethno-cultural background – check
Casus belli due to country of origin being bombed by Canadian/US/NATO forces – check and check
– Five-year old DUI – hold on, pal. We’ve got standards here.

Beefcake the Mighty April 21, 2011 at 10:21 am

Thumbs up.

Freedom Fighter April 21, 2011 at 10:36 am

c

Oklahoma Libertarian April 21, 2011 at 3:51 pm

Deep stuff there, Fighter. :-P

InsidiouslyImprisonedintheUSofA April 21, 2011 at 10:43 am

Since the U.S. and Canada are in cahoots in this, I see it as a road to imprisonment in one’s own country. One can only imagine what’s next.

newson April 22, 2011 at 7:33 am

don’t be naive. the southern border leaks like a sieve. easy entry is easy egress.

DW April 21, 2011 at 10:57 am

Great article. No anarchist libertarian can overlook the implications of fencing an entire population.

Alex April 21, 2011 at 11:34 am

What if you wish to drive from Washington state to Alaska?

billwald April 23, 2011 at 9:37 pm

You drive onto an Alaskan Ferry at Bellingham, WA.

WillKane April 21, 2011 at 12:20 pm

And this is just Canada. If I want to travel to, say, India, I am forced to spend hundreds of dollars just to obtain a passport and a visa. If I fail to do this, I am literally not allowed to get on that plane. I am trapped, walled in, stuck, a prisoner in my own country. Then, to add insult to injury, even if I DO pay these government bribes giving me permission to leave/enter (!), the government slaps hundreds (yes, hundreds!) more in fees and taxes onto my plane ticket. Bottom line: we are prisoners in our own country unless we pay through the nose, in which case we remain prisoners on temporary parole.

augusto May 25, 2011 at 10:45 am

Actually, this is a common misconception. Having a passport and a visa {i}does not{/i} give you permission to leave/enter the country. It gives you the privilege of an interview with an immigration officer at the port of entry. The officer has full discretion to either let you in or to put you in the next plane back home.

Joe May 25, 2011 at 2:06 pm

Actually, the US Customs Department is completely unconstitutional. Immigration was meant to be a state issue, surprisingly enough.

augusto May 26, 2011 at 7:53 am

I wasn’t talking about the US in particular. This is how it works throughout the world: you get a visa, you arrive at your destination, you’re interviewed by an immigration officer. The immigration officer decides whether or not to let you in.

M April 22, 2011 at 12:07 am

I know, tragically, firsthand what this is like.
My Canadian girlfriend was denied entry to the US on Valentines Day because the goons “didnt believe she planned to return to Canada.” I was cleared to go and they were surprised when I said I was going back with her. We went back to Canada and decided what to do and ultimately had to go home early because we couldnt afford to stay in Montreal for too long. When we had rested up the next day, she broke up with me. I just agreed because I thought of doing the same earlier. We started fighting and hating each others guts. Altho we have been getting along lately. Now she is deeply depressed and on and off thinking suicidal thoughts: that there is nothing to live for anymore. Meanwhile, she could be here, happily with me and with good friends in a nice area. Her town is miserable and small. What if she did do it?

All in the name of what? Stopping terrorists? Drug smuggling? Thank goodness, I dont have to weigh a death of someone I love against this “protection”.

Joe April 22, 2011 at 10:48 am

If I had such strong feelings that I might contemplate suicide over not getting across the border I think I would find a way across the border. Beyond that I would seriously think about getting another girlfriend. This one seems a little unstable.

M April 22, 2011 at 1:30 pm

We are no longer together. That was not the reason why she became somewhat suicidal. The humiliation compounded her depression and returning to her home made it worse as well because no one seems capable of supporting her in the ways she needs. Shes been treated like garbage a lot of her life and a whole host of other things I dont want to bother you with for too long. Shes a bit stubborn and I offered to try to cross again, but she was so humiliated, she refused. I dont see how that is unexpected for a shy, 19 yo girl who is crossing for the first time. But still, we shouldve tried again. Amtrak is actually very easy too cross with. I wish Id done that in the first place, but I was in a rush to get home.

John B April 22, 2011 at 4:30 am

” . . They seem determined to burden the exercise of rights with transaction costs so heavy that the knees of the “free” will buckle under them. . .”

I am sure you are absolutely correct.
The reason for these procedures (by those who establish them, not implement them – their enjoyment is a secondary spin off) is indeed, subjugation.
Similarly, airport full body scanners are more about telling you you have no place to hide, even your body parts, from their gaze than any genuine attempt to defeat terrorism.
Privacy is a prerogative of the elite.

steve schantz April 22, 2011 at 5:40 am

i had a 20 year old dwi it took 1 1/2 years to be deemed rehabilitated.i also had to provide tax returns. thats right tax returns to a foreign government in order to establish my rehabilitation status!

J. Murray April 22, 2011 at 6:21 am

I would have rejected your rehab. You’d have to be under the influence to be willing to pay taxes. ;)

victor April 22, 2011 at 7:06 am

Geez, Doug and Bob McKenzie got serious problems. And how fast can you say, “Up in Smoke” for bong touting Tommy Chong’s trip to Canada?

Try living in a place where getting on the “No Fly List” means a 1,300 mile boat ride or swim. Resistance is futile! One needs to cower and be groped by these BIG PEOPLE at TSA.

newson April 22, 2011 at 7:41 am

fondling is for true patriots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_sAeWjarjWM

Ned Netterville May 25, 2011 at 10:27 am

Great stuff, Wendy. Mises can use more of your anarchic insights. I’m surprised that you haven’t been arrested because in my own case it took being arrested for me to comprehend some of the methodologies of the police state to which you point. I certainly appreciate your analysis of the imposition of heavy “transaction costs” by the State upon our freedoms. I hadn’t thought of it that way, but it certainly is a sensible way to explain my reluctance to take a commercial flight, which I used to enjoy.

I also want to associate myself with J. MURRAY’S comment: “You’d have to be under the influence to be willing to pay taxes. ;)” Indeed! Why would anyone–libertarian, anarchist or merely human–voluntarily support the f-ing State that is tightening the noose around one’s neck.

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