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		<title>By: Sione</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Rafal

They do.

Plenty of books available for free on this very website. Take a look.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rafal</p>
<p>They do.</p>
<p>Plenty of books available for free on this very website. Take a look.</p>
<p>Sione</p>
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		<title>By: Sione</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyrone

Ideas are common. Everyone has them.

Sione]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyrone</p>
<p>Ideas are common. Everyone has them.</p>
<p>Sione</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Shelley</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758432</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Shelley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 04:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wonderful that Gaiman is actually taking direct control of his work and his destiny and playing to the strengths of a division of labor society (remnant) instead of embracing and feeding the rat race and its cancerous insinuations. Bravo!! And Thanks Stephan!!

I believe the following relates on so many levels....  

http://dennisleewilson.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=481.0

Re: IPR proponents don&#039;t need our agreement to protect their property
« Reply #1 on: 2010-October-31 08:08:37 PM »
	
http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle593-20101031-04.html

THE LIBERTARIAN ENTERPRISE
Number 593, October 31, 2010

The Great Milk Robbery
by Anthony Shelley
AnthonyShelley@Yahoo.com


Attribute to The Libertarian Enterprise

In last week&#039;s TLE, (Number 592, October 17, 2010) Paul Bonneau makes interesting points to IPR proponents without getting into the &quot;we have copies—you still have your original&quot; issue. He puts the burden of property protection where it belongs—on the one who claims ownership.

Whether intentional or not, he uses good Harry Browne-like points.... HB saw rights as a trap, and group traps such as government trap... and HB&#039;s answer is to take direct action to get desired results that don&#039;t involve changing, controlling, convincing others--including IPR proponents. (Controlling others is a form of dependence on others.)

Freedom from the treadmill: Do what you want to do. But recognize that there are many things you want to do and you can&#039;t have them all. So establish priorities in your values and stick to the ones at the top. (Innovation is at the top for me but apparently not for Disney.) When you have to give up the lesser values (such as policing others and forsaking the profits of innovation), don&#039;t waste your time bemoaning the loss of what could have been obtained only by giving up something more valuable (which is what Disney, Watt, Whitey, Wright brothers ended up doing.)

In fact HB called this the great milk robbery—leaving one&#039;s milk out on the porch and finding it stolen, there is a risk someone will steal it.... so? Put it somewhere else or continue to leave it alone and write off the cost of the robbery because you have more productive uses of your time than catching milk thieves—productive uses such as innovating!


The Great Milk Robbery

To illustrate this, let&#039;s suppose that I walk out to my front porch one morning, expecting to pick up my milk. But lo and behold, I find that it&#039;s been stolen. What do I do next?

I can bitterly feel that the thief had no right to steal from me. But would that get my milk back? (rights trap)

I could stand on the front porch and deliver an eloquent speech, cursing the disgraceful fact that there are thieves in the world. But what would that get me—aside from a few angry neighbors?

To say that there are thieves in the world is only to repeat what I&#039;ve known all along. To say that it&#039;s disgraceful is to say that if I were God, I&#039;d have made the world differently. But since I&#039;m not God, that point is irrelevant, too.(I would call this the relevance trap)

To say that I would never steal someone&#039;s milk is to acknowledge that I&#039;m different from many of the people in the world and that I have my own way of trying to achieve happiness. But why should I expect someone else to use my way? (identity trap)

Direct alternative / self rule:
The only area of interest is that which I control. I&#039;ve decided to risk theft by having the milk bottles left on the front porch. And I can decide to continue that risk or have the milk handled in some other way.

If I concentrate on the thief&#039;s immorality or on my rights, I&#039;m probably leaving myself vulnerable to another theft. But if I use what I control to make new arrangements, I can see to it that the theft isn&#039;t repeated—and that should be my major concern.

And I can think about that while I&#039;m pouring water on my Wheaties.

Ideas from Harry Browne&#039;s &quot;How I Found Freedom In an UNFree World&quot;

Anthony Shelley is &quot;Living On Freedom Road In an UnFree World&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful that Gaiman is actually taking direct control of his work and his destiny and playing to the strengths of a division of labor society (remnant) instead of embracing and feeding the rat race and its cancerous insinuations. Bravo!! And Thanks Stephan!!</p>
<p>I believe the following relates on so many levels&#8230;.  </p>
<p><a href="http://dennisleewilson.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=481.0" rel="nofollow">http://dennisleewilson.com/simplemachinesforum/index.php?topic=481.0</a></p>
<p>Re: IPR proponents don&#8217;t need our agreement to protect their property<br />
« Reply #1 on: 2010-October-31 08:08:37 PM »</p>
<p><a href="http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle593-20101031-04.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.ncc-1776.org/tle2010/tle593-20101031-04.html</a></p>
<p>THE LIBERTARIAN ENTERPRISE<br />
Number 593, October 31, 2010</p>
<p>The Great Milk Robbery<br />
by Anthony Shelley<br />
<a href="mailto:AnthonyShelley@Yahoo.com">AnthonyShelley@Yahoo.com</a></p>
<p>Attribute to The Libertarian Enterprise</p>
<p>In last week&#8217;s TLE, (Number 592, October 17, 2010) Paul Bonneau makes interesting points to IPR proponents without getting into the &#8220;we have copies—you still have your original&#8221; issue. He puts the burden of property protection where it belongs—on the one who claims ownership.</p>
<p>Whether intentional or not, he uses good Harry Browne-like points&#8230;. HB saw rights as a trap, and group traps such as government trap&#8230; and HB&#8217;s answer is to take direct action to get desired results that don&#8217;t involve changing, controlling, convincing others&#8211;including IPR proponents. (Controlling others is a form of dependence on others.)</p>
<p>Freedom from the treadmill: Do what you want to do. But recognize that there are many things you want to do and you can&#8217;t have them all. So establish priorities in your values and stick to the ones at the top. (Innovation is at the top for me but apparently not for Disney.) When you have to give up the lesser values (such as policing others and forsaking the profits of innovation), don&#8217;t waste your time bemoaning the loss of what could have been obtained only by giving up something more valuable (which is what Disney, Watt, Whitey, Wright brothers ended up doing.)</p>
<p>In fact HB called this the great milk robbery—leaving one&#8217;s milk out on the porch and finding it stolen, there is a risk someone will steal it&#8230;. so? Put it somewhere else or continue to leave it alone and write off the cost of the robbery because you have more productive uses of your time than catching milk thieves—productive uses such as innovating!</p>
<p>The Great Milk Robbery</p>
<p>To illustrate this, let&#8217;s suppose that I walk out to my front porch one morning, expecting to pick up my milk. But lo and behold, I find that it&#8217;s been stolen. What do I do next?</p>
<p>I can bitterly feel that the thief had no right to steal from me. But would that get my milk back? (rights trap)</p>
<p>I could stand on the front porch and deliver an eloquent speech, cursing the disgraceful fact that there are thieves in the world. But what would that get me—aside from a few angry neighbors?</p>
<p>To say that there are thieves in the world is only to repeat what I&#8217;ve known all along. To say that it&#8217;s disgraceful is to say that if I were God, I&#8217;d have made the world differently. But since I&#8217;m not God, that point is irrelevant, too.(I would call this the relevance trap)</p>
<p>To say that I would never steal someone&#8217;s milk is to acknowledge that I&#8217;m different from many of the people in the world and that I have my own way of trying to achieve happiness. But why should I expect someone else to use my way? (identity trap)</p>
<p>Direct alternative / self rule:<br />
The only area of interest is that which I control. I&#8217;ve decided to risk theft by having the milk bottles left on the front porch. And I can decide to continue that risk or have the milk handled in some other way.</p>
<p>If I concentrate on the thief&#8217;s immorality or on my rights, I&#8217;m probably leaving myself vulnerable to another theft. But if I use what I control to make new arrangements, I can see to it that the theft isn&#8217;t repeated—and that should be my major concern.</p>
<p>And I can think about that while I&#8217;m pouring water on my Wheaties.</p>
<p>Ideas from Harry Browne&#8217;s &#8220;How I Found Freedom In an UNFree World&#8221;</p>
<p>Anthony Shelley is &#8220;Living On Freedom Road In an UnFree World&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: SirThinkALot</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758429</link>
		<dc:creator>SirThinkALot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Feb 2011 03:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s offical I&#039;m going to copy the complete Sandman series to my computer....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s offical I&#8217;m going to copy the complete Sandman series to my computer&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758335</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 17:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Do find a lot of people successfully selling pirated music? I remember when Napster first came out and people would pay their friends to copy some songs on a cd for them but I&#039;m not aware of anybody who needs that service anymore. I wouldn&#039;t even take the time to put something on a cd anymore. iPads, iPhones, kindles, etc. make the sale of pirated goods very remote at best. I don&#039;t even need to download most of the stuff online anymore as I now have access to it whenever I want anyways. Technology is only making pirating easier or more convenient. It&#039;s about time we get with the times and realize ideas are not scarce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do find a lot of people successfully selling pirated music? I remember when Napster first came out and people would pay their friends to copy some songs on a cd for them but I&#8217;m not aware of anybody who needs that service anymore. I wouldn&#8217;t even take the time to put something on a cd anymore. iPads, iPhones, kindles, etc. make the sale of pirated goods very remote at best. I don&#8217;t even need to download most of the stuff online anymore as I now have access to it whenever I want anyways. Technology is only making pirating easier or more convenient. It&#8217;s about time we get with the times and realize ideas are not scarce.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758248</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 06:23:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[But whose record sales? The point is they may not be yours.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But whose record sales? The point is they may not be yours.</p>
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		<title>By: Capn Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Capn Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 02:13:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am I the only one who sees this analogy?:

If you&#039;re in a pop band you would throw your mama in front of a TRAIN to get airplay!

And airplay? Why, that&#039;s EVERYBODY listening to your stuff - FOR FREE!!!

Airplay = record sales. Couldn&#039;t be clearer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I the only one who sees this analogy?:</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re in a pop band you would throw your mama in front of a TRAIN to get airplay!</p>
<p>And airplay? Why, that&#8217;s EVERYBODY listening to your stuff &#8211; FOR FREE!!!</p>
<p>Airplay = record sales. Couldn&#8217;t be clearer.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758167</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact that there are increased sales in this instance of copyright infringement is a happy result, but I feel it is not a core argument against IP. IP is wrong for many reasons not the least of which is moral (you cannot own what is in my head and neither can I). 

Ideas do not exist in a finite pool where thoughts are caged by the thinker, preventing their appearance in another mind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that there are increased sales in this instance of copyright infringement is a happy result, but I feel it is not a core argument against IP. IP is wrong for many reasons not the least of which is moral (you cannot own what is in my head and neither can I). </p>
<p>Ideas do not exist in a finite pool where thoughts are caged by the thinker, preventing their appearance in another mind.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone Dell</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758162</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone Dell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 00:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Money is scarce. Ideas are not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money is scarce. Ideas are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758114</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 20:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And why doesn&#039;t anyone?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And why doesn&#8217;t anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: Edgaras</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758045</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgaras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 15:37:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe he wouldn&#039;t be, but then again, who does that anyway?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe he wouldn&#8217;t be, but then again, who does that anyway?</p>
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		<title>By: V. LEHO</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758012</link>
		<dc:creator>V. LEHO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 11:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot; What other business? You act like labor is some giant aggregate that just ebbs and flows wherever. Future authors will just have to do what the rest of us in society do to maintain our desired incomes in the face of increasing productivity and competition – increase our output&quot; 

That was not my meaning. I was reacting to NG optimism for book sales. He is not delegitimizing copyright, he is just saying that for him piracy increased his sales. He is not opposing copyrights per se. 

&quot;This would be a paradigm shift for the industry. It’s not a bad thing. Competition spurs innovation&quot; 

The problem with this sentence is that if moneymaking is impossible by writing books, there won&#039;t be any industry at all. There may be some &quot;ouput&quot;, but it won&#039;t be an industry. 

&quot;Only the top 0.1% actually earn a very good living doing this stuff because they are the best at what they do. Selling over 1,000 actual books actually is considered “successful” for the industry.&quot;

 It is mostly for the ouput of the 0.1% that I care, because they are the books that most people enjoy to read.

While I understand that there is something wrong with patents today, I don&#039;t understand this obsession with copyrights(there is a post nearly everyday). People new to mises.org must be puzzled. When they read Human Action, they don&#039;t have the impression that this issue is central to Mises, or to our lives]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8221; What other business? You act like labor is some giant aggregate that just ebbs and flows wherever. Future authors will just have to do what the rest of us in society do to maintain our desired incomes in the face of increasing productivity and competition – increase our output&#8221; </p>
<p>That was not my meaning. I was reacting to NG optimism for book sales. He is not delegitimizing copyright, he is just saying that for him piracy increased his sales. He is not opposing copyrights per se. </p>
<p>&#8220;This would be a paradigm shift for the industry. It’s not a bad thing. Competition spurs innovation&#8221; </p>
<p>The problem with this sentence is that if moneymaking is impossible by writing books, there won&#8217;t be any industry at all. There may be some &#8220;ouput&#8221;, but it won&#8217;t be an industry. </p>
<p>&#8220;Only the top 0.1% actually earn a very good living doing this stuff because they are the best at what they do. Selling over 1,000 actual books actually is considered “successful” for the industry.&#8221;</p>
<p> It is mostly for the ouput of the 0.1% that I care, because they are the books that most people enjoy to read.</p>
<p>While I understand that there is something wrong with patents today, I don&#8217;t understand this obsession with copyrights(there is a post nearly everyday). People new to mises.org must be puzzled. When they read Human Action, they don&#8217;t have the impression that this issue is central to Mises, or to our lives</p>
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		<title>By: Rafal</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-758006</link>
		<dc:creator>Rafal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 10:22:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He is happy about his books being advertised on the Internet but I&#039;m not so sure if he would be so happy if someone sold his books without paying him any fees.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He is happy about his books being advertised on the Internet but I&#8217;m not so sure if he would be so happy if someone sold his books without paying him any fees.</p>
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		<title>By: TANSTAAFL</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757983</link>
		<dc:creator>TANSTAAFL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 07:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes digital media has made it easier to &#039;pirate.&#039;

One thing I have not seen mentioned are the transaction costs associated with pirated goods. Things like needing internet access, some sort of electronic device to access the information on the internet, computer literacy, unwanted attachments, viruses, bad files. In short it can be a real pain to acquire these &#039;free&#039; goods. You see for some of us it is easier to pay the market price for a good than deal with the extra hassle of getting something for &#039;free.&#039;

Remember, there ain&#039;t no such thing as a free lunch...




John Doe writes a book. Since there will always be demand for printed books, he publishes 100k copies. From the beginning John has great advantage. He can plan ahead and is ready to print more copies. By being the first to market he has gained the advantage having the shortest lead time for more copies if the demand is there. He also has &#039;insider information&#039; on how strong the demand is, he knows how fast they are selling. Whether selling hard copies or digital media John the innovator has a competitive advantage.

Even if others were free to distribute the book John still benefits greatly, as does &#039;society.&#039; John gets name recognition if his book is good. Producing, making available, and dustributing copies puts people to work. If the ideas are good they spread quickly. If the are bad they are sooner discarded. Everyone is better off. 

Let&#039;s say there are no barriers to sharing of information or what Mises called recipes. John can only benefit in the long run if his book can be freely shared. The more people that read his book, the bigger his &#039;brand&#039; becomes, the greater his future earning potential. If John is well received he could sell a million copies of the first edition of his second book. 


I can see that it is possible that all individuals may be better of by encouraging open sharing of information.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes digital media has made it easier to &#8216;pirate.&#8217;</p>
<p>One thing I have not seen mentioned are the transaction costs associated with pirated goods. Things like needing internet access, some sort of electronic device to access the information on the internet, computer literacy, unwanted attachments, viruses, bad files. In short it can be a real pain to acquire these &#8216;free&#8217; goods. You see for some of us it is easier to pay the market price for a good than deal with the extra hassle of getting something for &#8216;free.&#8217;</p>
<p>Remember, there ain&#8217;t no such thing as a free lunch&#8230;</p>
<p>John Doe writes a book. Since there will always be demand for printed books, he publishes 100k copies. From the beginning John has great advantage. He can plan ahead and is ready to print more copies. By being the first to market he has gained the advantage having the shortest lead time for more copies if the demand is there. He also has &#8216;insider information&#8217; on how strong the demand is, he knows how fast they are selling. Whether selling hard copies or digital media John the innovator has a competitive advantage.</p>
<p>Even if others were free to distribute the book John still benefits greatly, as does &#8216;society.&#8217; John gets name recognition if his book is good. Producing, making available, and dustributing copies puts people to work. If the ideas are good they spread quickly. If the are bad they are sooner discarded. Everyone is better off. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s say there are no barriers to sharing of information or what Mises called recipes. John can only benefit in the long run if his book can be freely shared. The more people that read his book, the bigger his &#8216;brand&#8217; becomes, the greater his future earning potential. If John is well received he could sell a million copies of the first edition of his second book. </p>
<p>I can see that it is possible that all individuals may be better of by encouraging open sharing of information.</p>
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		<title>By: Stranger</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757932</link>
		<dc:creator>Stranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Feb 2011 02:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bill Gates gives his money away. Surely this must mean that capital should be owned in common.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill Gates gives his money away. Surely this must mean that capital should be owned in common.</p>
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		<title>By: WhiskeyJim</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757900</link>
		<dc:creator>WhiskeyJim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To reveal how naive I can be, I naturally assumed extensive quotations of authors on the Internet, like bad MP3 recordings of the original song, to be free advertising.  I was initially befuddled when I learned that authors and musicians viewed it as a copyright issue.  

I believe the fallacy arises because organizations view people who will make do with a poor substitute as potential consumers.  They are not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To reveal how naive I can be, I naturally assumed extensive quotations of authors on the Internet, like bad MP3 recordings of the original song, to be free advertising.  I was initially befuddled when I learned that authors and musicians viewed it as a copyright issue.  </p>
<p>I believe the fallacy arises because organizations view people who will make do with a poor substitute as potential consumers.  They are not.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Richards</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757894</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 23:00:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s kinda a relief to hear a famous author talk about IP this way. Also, ereaders are not going to hurt authors. They will probably just bundle the sale of the book with something else so that way it becomes more appealing. This is what authors did in the past and how some websites selling info goods do it today. :D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s kinda a relief to hear a famous author talk about IP this way. Also, ereaders are not going to hurt authors. They will probably just bundle the sale of the book with something else so that way it becomes more appealing. This is what authors did in the past and how some websites selling info goods do it today. <img src='http://archive.mises.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone Dell</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757840</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone Dell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure, but it also seems like he has a very naive view of what the Internet even is or how it works in the first place. I&#039;m cutting him some slack for this one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, but it also seems like he has a very naive view of what the Internet even is or how it works in the first place. I&#8217;m cutting him some slack for this one.</p>
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		<title>By: Cory Brickner</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757810</link>
		<dc:creator>Cory Brickner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This would be a paradigm shift for the industry.  It&#039;s not a bad thing.  Competition spurs innovation.  Should we still be using horse and buggies instead of cars?  I don&#039;t know what authors / artists you know, but making money writing books, or selling artwork, or being a musician was already almost impossible way before the internet.  Only the top 0.1% actually earn a very good living doing this stuff because they are the best at what they do.  Selling over 1,000 actual books actually is considered &quot;successful&quot; for the industry.  How many authors are there, how many books are there, and how many books are bought each year by consumers?  The reality is the supply of books way exceeds demand for books.

In order to make it in the &quot;arts and entertainment&quot; industry, you need to be the best at what you do solely for the fact that it is very hard to differentiate your product from someone else&#039;s.  Words are cheap -- hence blogs and websites and my reply to your post.  Just as Stephan routinely points out, there&#039;s nothing sacrosanct about ideas and those ideas put into words.  I have ideas, you have ideas, we all have ideas.  A lot of ideas overlap.  It doesn&#039;t mean one stole one idea from another, they just aren&#039;t scarce.  The law of supply and demand holds here as much as anywhere else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would be a paradigm shift for the industry.  It&#8217;s not a bad thing.  Competition spurs innovation.  Should we still be using horse and buggies instead of cars?  I don&#8217;t know what authors / artists you know, but making money writing books, or selling artwork, or being a musician was already almost impossible way before the internet.  Only the top 0.1% actually earn a very good living doing this stuff because they are the best at what they do.  Selling over 1,000 actual books actually is considered &#8220;successful&#8221; for the industry.  How many authors are there, how many books are there, and how many books are bought each year by consumers?  The reality is the supply of books way exceeds demand for books.</p>
<p>In order to make it in the &#8220;arts and entertainment&#8221; industry, you need to be the best at what you do solely for the fact that it is very hard to differentiate your product from someone else&#8217;s.  Words are cheap &#8212; hence blogs and websites and my reply to your post.  Just as Stephan routinely points out, there&#8217;s nothing sacrosanct about ideas and those ideas put into words.  I have ideas, you have ideas, we all have ideas.  A lot of ideas overlap.  It doesn&#8217;t mean one stole one idea from another, they just aren&#8217;t scarce.  The law of supply and demand holds here as much as anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Julien</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/15647/gaiman-on-copyright-piracy-and-the-web/comment-page-1/#comment-757809</link>
		<dc:creator>Julien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 18:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He&#039;s not saying that there is nothing wrong. He&#039;s saying that in his case that arrangement worked better for him as an author. 
He says piracy is like lending, but lending pre-supposes ownership. 
His comments are encouraging, but there is still ways to go to de-legitimize IP.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He&#8217;s not saying that there is nothing wrong. He&#8217;s saying that in his case that arrangement worked better for him as an author.<br />
He says piracy is like lending, but lending pre-supposes ownership.<br />
His comments are encouraging, but there is still ways to go to de-legitimize IP.</p>
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