Here is an interesting case in point from the streets of Egypt.
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But according Block (http://mises.org/daily/4563) aren’t these Egyptians undoing the work of heroes .. the litterers? And isn’t it communal not private ownership that has inspired them so to volunteer?
I understand and agree with your point, but it seems to me that in any other circumstance that the majority of folks on this site would be scoffing at individuals volunteering to clean up public property. I’d expect to comments to the effect of “only fools would perform such labor for the State – they’re only encouraging public ownership of resources!”
According to that video, it looks as if they thought they just fought the devil off their property and thus feel sudden urge to start caring about it again. Of course, unless they get rid of the real culprit, the State, such feeling will fade away quickly.
I agree, this isn’t private ownership.
Let’s Hope For A Federated Egypt.
How diverse is Egypt? If it can use the energy of this revolution for regional secessions and then federate that region of the world known as Egypt, then it will become ready for the greater federation of all of the seceded regions eventually occurring all over the world.
Nationhood went down the wrong path and turned into the ego-driven State (corrupt and obsolete) all over the planet and now we are entering the period where federated, distinct regions of rich and diverse cultures practicing the principles of classical liberalism has become the unstoppable trend and a sign of maturity and modern civilization.
The Africans are thinking communal property and seemed comfortable with this type of ownership. Undoing this may prove monumental.
I’ve lived on small islands throughout the Caribbean and The Bahamas for decades. This scene is ho-hum normal. Teeny Govt. – but most important, a sense of connectedness with PLACE; or if you will, OWNERSHIP.
Don’t poop in your own nest. Human nature.
I agree with other posters. This really doesn’t say much about the private property issue. There seems to be a lot of nationalism, but I do see a healthy mix of anti-statism. It too soon to call IMHO
Do you mean to tell me that people in the streets are being fed and its not the government handing it out? Do you mean to tell me that medical services are being rendered in the streets for free and its not the government thats doing it?
The way the people are working together seems to be somewhat socialistic in nature, which is fine as long as it isn’t forced and people are free to come and work/provide services and go as they please. The main thing I took from this video was how mature the people of Egypt were. They can definetly handle much more freedom than they’ve been given by their government!
Seems more like volunteerism than socialism to me. It’s not like they are forcing people to accept the food or to give food. It’s a spontaneous self-organization of charity around a somewhat spontaneous protest movement.
Yes, of course it is not ownership in the private sense. But now that they are no longer slaves, or don’t feel themselves to be, they long to own and act like owners. That was the point of this post, and I can’t believe I have to explain it.
I was talking to my sister about this post of yours yesterday.
And I agree with you, we can see people having a sense of ownership in this way and the benefits of that regardless of the fact it’s a community.
They didn’t believe themselves to be working for the state, they perceived that they were working for themselves.
It’s only should they become to think force should be used to establish everything as permanent communal property that this is a problem. People working to help one another is no problem if that’s voluntarily agreed upon.
Owners, that is, of what they deem to be “communal” property. I saw one video where a guy was saying that it’s “…a good thing people have come to their senses and started being more altruistic.”
Interesting video but who really knows the scale in which this is happening in Egypt. A couple times in the video, the same people are being recorded, so there is a chance that this isn’t happening all over Egypt or on a mass scale and it’s really just a couple of people taking it upon themselves to volunteer their services, which is nothing new and happens all over the world, even in the most oppressed of states. I’d like to see some footage and news of what is going on over there, after everything has settled down, to see if the people in Egypt take complete ownership of that land and have real property rights.
Now I wonder if they will restore the private garbage collection that they used to have before the government messed it all up?
http://mises.org/daily/4288
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I’m not exactly sure where people are coming from when they see these events as some “socialist” ongoings. There’s nothing socialist about volunteering. It’s extremely plausible (and perhaps likely) that such events would still take place in an anarcho-capitalist system. Tucker never said anything about “private property”, but rather simply a pride in retaking their country.
You can volunteer in a socialist system. Socialism is the system which most families utilize. As well, religious orders and organizations such as monasteries, nunneries, Hutterites, Jesuits, etc., live by the maxim, “from each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” Those are all voluntary socialist systems. It is coercive socialism/capitalism that is abhorrent.
http://mises.org/journals/qjae/pdf/qjae2_3_3.pdf
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