Comments on: WWI and the Rise of the “Great Manipulators”

By: Peter Walden

Peter Walden — Tue, 24 May 2011 02:16:53 +0000

I have the book

By: newson

newson — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 11:07:33 +0000

jeff gates shows the tradition of substitution of facts for feelings to further a war agenda didn’t stop at wwI:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7a11fqNChw&NR=1

By: Beefcake the Mighty

Beefcake the Mighty — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 04:25:43 +0000

Great find, as always, newson.

Some background on Bernays’ role in Nuremburg:

http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v12/v12p167_Webera.html

Interesting to note Bernays’ reliance on Lemkin’s work:

http://frank.mtsu.edu/~baustin/trials1.html

Lemkin was of course the subject of a book by the heroic James Martin (The Man Who Invented Genocide, which is not about holocaust revisionism but the politicization of war time atrocities by the victors).

By: newson

newson — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:54:35 +0000

there are some great and timeless lines in the abovementioned work:
“Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government.”

By: newson

newson — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 03:02:20 +0000

those interested may like to read edward bernays’ 1928 classic, propaganda.
http://is.gd/jZslm

By: newson

newson — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:39:40 +0000

novel legal techniques like using “film as witness” – essentially spin – make it difficult not to think about edward’s groundbreaking techniques. but it was murray who was responsible for the particular design of the trials.

http://is.gd/jZ0qJ

By: Jim

Jim — Mon, 03 Jan 2011 00:39:35 +0000

“They gave brief, supposedly impromptu, speeches in cinemas and other public places. Many made the bogus claims that antiwar sentiment was being fomented by German agents, and that America risked being overrun by Prussians.”

I think I’d claim that America was already overrun by the Prussians by that time.

By: Sam

Sam — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 18:19:06 +0000

What did his brother do?

I know that there was some shams during the Nuremburg trials but not the specifics of it.

By: Bruce Koerber

Bruce Koerber — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 17:11:45 +0000

Manipulators is one way of describing them. Another is ‘propagandists.’

By: Chu-hua Zhu

Chu-hua Zhu — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 11:59:32 +0000

More specifically, who cares? You want apes, then buy some and take care of them.

Oh, wait, the government MADE THAT ILLEGAL!

By: newson

newson — Sun, 02 Jan 2011 07:56:08 +0000

a must-see on edward bernays is the century of the self:

http://is.gd/jWnEn

interestingly, bernays’ brother, murray, played a very prominent part in the nuremburg war trials, a defining event in shaping post-wwII history.

By: Ohhh Henry

Ohhh Henry — Sat, 01 Jan 2011 19:46:22 +0000

A masterful recent example is a Greenpeace video in which an office worker opens a KitKat and finds an orangutan’s finger inside—the intention being to press Nestlé, the chocolate bar’s maker, to stop buying palm oil from places where the ape’s native forests are being cut down

Just a quick Q … aren’t there a h_ll of a lot more east-Asian forests being cut down to grow palm oil for Europe’s bogus “green energy” mandates, than are being cut down for Kit Kat bars? I believe it is the Euro version of North America’s ethanol scam.

I know that Nestle is considered to be the root of (almost) all evil by the leftie crowd ever since the days when their baby formula was boycotted for allegedly being marketed to African women as a superior substitute for breast milk … but claiming that chocolate bars are responsible for loss of forest habitat strikes me as pure baloney.

Perhaps the ad is actually a sophisticated judo-move type of propaganda, intended to acknowledge loss of Orangutan habitat but shift people’s attention away from the criminal socialist governments of Europe and onto an already-blackened capitalist entity.