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	<title>Comments on: John Law: Proto-Keynesian</title>
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		<title>By: Mike Sproul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Sproul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 15:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John:

So if some bank takes in 100 oz of silver and issues 100 IOU&#039;s, each redeemable at all times for 1 oz. of silver, then that silver backing has no influence on the IOU&#039;s value? I suppose you&#039;d say backing is even less relevant if the bank swapped some of its silver for land or mortgages, or if the bank suspended convertibility into silver, while still redeeming each IOU for 1 oz. worth of land.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:</p>
<p>So if some bank takes in 100 oz of silver and issues 100 IOU&#8217;s, each redeemable at all times for 1 oz. of silver, then that silver backing has no influence on the IOU&#8217;s value? I suppose you&#8217;d say backing is even less relevant if the bank swapped some of its silver for land or mortgages, or if the bank suspended convertibility into silver, while still redeeming each IOU for 1 oz. worth of land.</p>
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		<title>By: John Voigt</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Voigt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 09:20:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The fact that loans are backed by mortgages, or that money is backed by gold, silver, or whatever, is entirely immaterial. The backing of money has absolutely no influence on its value, which is solely determined by the demand for money and the supply of money. Law went wrong because he simply did not understand this.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that loans are backed by mortgages, or that money is backed by gold, silver, or whatever, is entirely immaterial. The backing of money has absolutely no influence on its value, which is solely determined by the demand for money and the supply of money. Law went wrong because he simply did not understand this.</p>
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		<title>By: P.M.Lawrence</title>
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		<dc:creator>P.M.Lawrence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 04:15:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And another third might still have been Mexican or even Spanish (and British, in the former Oregon territory), as the USA wouldn&#039;t have been able to infiltrate that with French territory in the way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And another third might still have been Mexican or even Spanish (and British, in the former Oregon territory), as the USA wouldn&#8217;t have been able to infiltrate that with French territory in the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Maggie Gilmore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maggie Gilmore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 02:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is total self-pimping but I made a humorous video for a Mises Academy class about John Law and the Mississippi Bubble, I think it&#039;s a fairly fun primer on the topic: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Gy4c60mEQ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is total self-pimping but I made a humorous video for a Mises Academy class about John Law and the Mississippi Bubble, I think it&#8217;s a fairly fun primer on the topic: <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Gy4c60mEQ" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08Gy4c60mEQ</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cook</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Cook</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:40:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As Law said money is not the value you exchange goods FOR but the value you exchange goods BY.

The value of land, whether expressed in £, $ ounces of silver or whatever, is based upon the discounted net present value of its rental value, which is certainly not mystical, but very real, and consists of the use value of the location, and the capital invested in it.

in fact, maybe two thirds of money in existence was created as interest-bearing loans secured by mortgages, and is therefore deficit-based but land-backed. 

Where Law went wrong was that the use value of the Mississippi Company land against which his Banque Royale lent money to speculators to buy the shares, thereby creating the Mississippi Bubble  - turned out to be pretty much worthless, at least at the time.

It&#039;s ironic to think that had he not done that, around one third of the US (the territory went clear to the Canadian border) might still be French.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As Law said money is not the value you exchange goods FOR but the value you exchange goods BY.</p>
<p>The value of land, whether expressed in £, $ ounces of silver or whatever, is based upon the discounted net present value of its rental value, which is certainly not mystical, but very real, and consists of the use value of the location, and the capital invested in it.</p>
<p>in fact, maybe two thirds of money in existence was created as interest-bearing loans secured by mortgages, and is therefore deficit-based but land-backed. </p>
<p>Where Law went wrong was that the use value of the Mississippi Company land against which his Banque Royale lent money to speculators to buy the shares, thereby creating the Mississippi Bubble  &#8211; turned out to be pretty much worthless, at least at the time.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s ironic to think that had he not done that, around one third of the US (the territory went clear to the Canadian border) might still be French.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Sproul</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/14677/john-law-proto-keynesian/comment-page-1/#comment-738738</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Sproul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Nov 2010 18:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Law was the theorist, arguing for a central land bank to issue inconvertible paper money, or rather, paper money &quot;backed&quot; mystically by the land of the nation.&quot;

If the central bank owns land worth 1000 oz. of silver, and it issues 1000 paper currency units, each redeemable for 1 oz. of land, then there is nothing mystical about the fact that each currency unit will be worth 1 ounce.

If that central bank then proceeds to throw away its land and print new money to spend on fast living, as Law did, then there is also nothing mystical about the resulting inflation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Law was the theorist, arguing for a central land bank to issue inconvertible paper money, or rather, paper money &#8220;backed&#8221; mystically by the land of the nation.&#8221;</p>
<p>If the central bank owns land worth 1000 oz. of silver, and it issues 1000 paper currency units, each redeemable for 1 oz. of land, then there is nothing mystical about the fact that each currency unit will be worth 1 ounce.</p>
<p>If that central bank then proceeds to throw away its land and print new money to spend on fast living, as Law did, then there is also nothing mystical about the resulting inflation.</p>
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