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	<title>Comments on: Hsieh and Mossoff on IP and Sewing Machines</title>
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	<description>Proceeding Ever More Boldly Against Evil</description>
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		<title>By: Edgaras</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/14438/hsieh-and-mossoff-on-ip-and-sewing-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-735572</link>
		<dc:creator>Edgaras</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 10:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;invitation to negotiation.&quot; just killed me... Wow...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;invitation to negotiation.&#8221; just killed me&#8230; Wow&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephan Kinsella</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/14438/hsieh-and-mossoff-on-ip-and-sewing-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-735543</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephan Kinsella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 04:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think what he means is, what is going on at any present time with the patent system might seem unjust--like if your liberty is restricted by someone&#039;s patent--but we do this so that we get more innovation in the future. So it&#039;s worth it. Or something. This is just a confused, not backed up utilitarian argument that denies it&#039;s utilitarian. So what can you do with it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what he means is, what is going on at any present time with the patent system might seem unjust&#8211;like if your liberty is restricted by someone&#8217;s patent&#8211;but we do this so that we get more innovation in the future. So it&#8217;s worth it. Or something. This is just a confused, not backed up utilitarian argument that denies it&#8217;s utilitarian. So what can you do with it?</p>
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		<title>By: iawai</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/14438/hsieh-and-mossoff-on-ip-and-sewing-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-735542</link>
		<dc:creator>iawai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Nov 2010 03:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It means that Mossoff can&#039;t refute those instances where the existence of Intellectual monopoly privilege actually hindered technological progress and peaceful cooperation in the marketplace.  So instead of trying to explain why these might be &quot;necessary evils&quot; in a good system, he will only argue in the hypothetical world of &quot;what could happen&quot; and &quot;what could be invented&quot;.  

Of course this takes all empirical evidence out of the debate, and leaves Mossoff only with the unfalsifiable propositions that absent the current (or a modified) version of Patent law &quot;creators would go unremunerated&quot; or that &quot;creators would have no incentive to advance technology&quot;.  These propositions are easily understood to be false if you look at actual human action, where creators are always seeking to better their position - but if you cannot appeal to historical evidence you are left arguing about what some hypothetical &lt;i&gt;homo inventus&lt;/i&gt; would do if he couldn&#039;t rely on the brutal power of the monopoly state to limit his competitors and potential consumers.

And Mossoff, in this falsely framed debate, will always be able to come up with some situation where he wouldn&#039;t get the invention he desired because the realities of scarcity would limit his &lt;i&gt;homo inventus&lt;/i&gt; to choices that actually made economic sense.  And from that hypothetical &quot;market failure&quot;, Mossoff will always argue for the socialist solution of forcing every individual into a single system where the type of invention he desires is provided &quot;for free&quot; (i.e. at the expense of every taxpayer, manufacturer, consumer, and rival inventor, regardless of their own internal opinions of the system).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It means that Mossoff can&#8217;t refute those instances where the existence of Intellectual monopoly privilege actually hindered technological progress and peaceful cooperation in the marketplace.  So instead of trying to explain why these might be &#8220;necessary evils&#8221; in a good system, he will only argue in the hypothetical world of &#8220;what could happen&#8221; and &#8220;what could be invented&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Of course this takes all empirical evidence out of the debate, and leaves Mossoff only with the unfalsifiable propositions that absent the current (or a modified) version of Patent law &#8220;creators would go unremunerated&#8221; or that &#8220;creators would have no incentive to advance technology&#8221;.  These propositions are easily understood to be false if you look at actual human action, where creators are always seeking to better their position &#8211; but if you cannot appeal to historical evidence you are left arguing about what some hypothetical <i>homo inventus</i> would do if he couldn&#8217;t rely on the brutal power of the monopoly state to limit his competitors and potential consumers.</p>
<p>And Mossoff, in this falsely framed debate, will always be able to come up with some situation where he wouldn&#8217;t get the invention he desired because the realities of scarcity would limit his <i>homo inventus</i> to choices that actually made economic sense.  And from that hypothetical &#8220;market failure&#8221;, Mossoff will always argue for the socialist solution of forcing every individual into a single system where the type of invention he desires is provided &#8220;for free&#8221; (i.e. at the expense of every taxpayer, manufacturer, consumer, and rival inventor, regardless of their own internal opinions of the system).</p>
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		<title>By: El Tonno</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/14438/hsieh-and-mossoff-on-ip-and-sewing-machines/comment-page-1/#comment-735472</link>
		<dc:creator>El Tonno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Oct 2010 16:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[“What the patent system is about is not what’s happening today or yesterday, but what’s going to happen tomorrow”

What does that even mean? Something is going to happen if the patent expires, but apart from that..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“What the patent system is about is not what’s happening today or yesterday, but what’s going to happen tomorrow”</p>
<p>What does that even mean? Something is going to happen if the patent expires, but apart from that..</p>
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