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		<title>By: gregw</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-727218</link>
		<dc:creator>gregw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;How do we get to that world?&quot;

Beats the crap out of me.

Interesting comment:
Reply from the Daily Bell:
No. This is exactly the point, and one we have been making for years. The truth-telling of the Internet is a process. The frustration with the system is like the ocean. The political structure is like a dike with holes and the water will pour through. If one hole is plugged another will open up. Eventually the dike will burst. It has nothing to do at this point with leaders or with movements or even with their subsidence. The pressure is too great. It is a process and is not finite but ongoing. It is history and it has happened before.&quot;
http://www.thedailybell.com/1301/Dick-Armeys-Tea-Party-Coup.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;How do we get to that world?&#8221;</p>
<p>Beats the crap out of me.</p>
<p>Interesting comment:<br />
Reply from the Daily Bell:<br />
No. This is exactly the point, and one we have been making for years. The truth-telling of the Internet is a process. The frustration with the system is like the ocean. The political structure is like a dike with holes and the water will pour through. If one hole is plugged another will open up. Eventually the dike will burst. It has nothing to do at this point with leaders or with movements or even with their subsidence. The pressure is too great. It is a process and is not finite but ongoing. It is history and it has happened before.&#8221;<br />
<a href="http://www.thedailybell.com/1301/Dick-Armeys-Tea-Party-Coup.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.thedailybell.com/1301/Dick-Armeys-Tea-Party-Coup.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: gregw</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-727212</link>
		<dc:creator>gregw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;We live in an age where ideas spread around the world at the speed of light. 150 years, my foot.&quot;

It&#039;s true, and the data packet networks may be the only hope.

Trouble is, statist ideas spread at the same speed, and there are a lot more statists than anarchists.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We live in an age where ideas spread around the world at the speed of light. 150 years, my foot.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s true, and the data packet networks may be the only hope.</p>
<p>Trouble is, statist ideas spread at the same speed, and there are a lot more statists than anarchists.</p>
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		<title>By: gregw</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-727211</link>
		<dc:creator>gregw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The only solution I can see is just as you described — to live your life, and direct your efforts, entirely outside the framework of Statism.&quot;

Remote cabins in Montana are cheap now, although not really affected by the housing crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The only solution I can see is just as you described — to live your life, and direct your efforts, entirely outside the framework of Statism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Remote cabins in Montana are cheap now, although not really affected by the housing crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesse Forgione</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-727031</link>
		<dc:creator>Jesse Forgione</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Sep 2010 01:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a bit more optimistic.  Information technology will be the death of the state.  Every day it advances at an accelerating rate, undermining the official propaganda that alone preserves the gangsters in power.

Right now the state is desperately scrambling to gain control of the Internet, and they will probably destroy it, as they destroyed radio.  But the market always wins in the end, and there will be some newer, better version of the Internet to destroy them.  

Remember, it&#039;s government gangsters vs every brilliant kid with every new piece of technology in the world.  The kids might not know much theory, but they do know that they don&#039;t have to submit to stupid rules designed by their inferiors.

We live in an age where ideas spread around the world at the speed of light.  150 years, my foot.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a bit more optimistic.  Information technology will be the death of the state.  Every day it advances at an accelerating rate, undermining the official propaganda that alone preserves the gangsters in power.</p>
<p>Right now the state is desperately scrambling to gain control of the Internet, and they will probably destroy it, as they destroyed radio.  But the market always wins in the end, and there will be some newer, better version of the Internet to destroy them.  </p>
<p>Remember, it&#8217;s government gangsters vs every brilliant kid with every new piece of technology in the world.  The kids might not know much theory, but they do know that they don&#8217;t have to submit to stupid rules designed by their inferiors.</p>
<p>We live in an age where ideas spread around the world at the speed of light.  150 years, my foot.</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph Fucetola JD</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726789</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph Fucetola JD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Sep 2010 02:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We could get Ron Paul. 

In fact my fantasy for this November is that neither tax-eater party gets a majority in the House, as the sheeple finally awaken and send a couple dozen independents there. That forces a new majority alignment and Ron Paul is elected Speaker of the House. Well, you &quot;gotta have a dream for your dream to come true...&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We could get Ron Paul. </p>
<p>In fact my fantasy for this November is that neither tax-eater party gets a majority in the House, as the sheeple finally awaken and send a couple dozen independents there. That forces a new majority alignment and Ron Paul is elected Speaker of the House. Well, you &#8220;gotta have a dream for your dream to come true&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: J.D.</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726756</link>
		<dc:creator>J.D.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 21:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ll have to second that point.  Democrats aren&#039;t usually duplicitous about their freeloading, scumsucking, leeching, parasitic agenda.
I remember one specific instance after one of Bush&#039;s State of the Union addresses where he introduced his horrible prescription drug bill, Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschle gave the Democratic &quot;response&quot;.  The basic gist was that it was great that the President is enacting this awful, fascist, welfare-state giveaway to the pharmaceutical companies but he just wasn&#039;t spending enough.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll have to second that point.  Democrats aren&#8217;t usually duplicitous about their freeloading, scumsucking, leeching, parasitic agenda.<br />
I remember one specific instance after one of Bush&#8217;s State of the Union addresses where he introduced his horrible prescription drug bill, Nancy Pelosi and Tom Daschle gave the Democratic &#8220;response&#8221;.  The basic gist was that it was great that the President is enacting this awful, fascist, welfare-state giveaway to the pharmaceutical companies but he just wasn&#8217;t spending enough.</p>
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		<title>By: Tyrone Dell</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726736</link>
		<dc:creator>Tyrone Dell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 18:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face -- forever.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;If you want a vision of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face &#8212; forever.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Perry Mason</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726711</link>
		<dc:creator>Perry Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 17:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I thought all of the arguing over actively supporting &quot;libertarian&quot; republicans in the political process was moot by now.  

Hoppe&#039;s book exposing the principle cause of our decivilization has been out for 15 years now.  Can we stop arguing over political tactics as if this book did not exist?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought all of the arguing over actively supporting &#8220;libertarian&#8221; republicans in the political process was moot by now.  </p>
<p>Hoppe&#8217;s book exposing the principle cause of our decivilization has been out for 15 years now.  Can we stop arguing over political tactics as if this book did not exist?</p>
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		<title>By: Marc Sheffner</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726653</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc Sheffner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 15:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Of some interest to readers, perhaps, is this recent post by Sean Gabb, discussing a practical policy to further his libertarian aims. Thought-provoking, even if (or perhaps particularly if) you disagree, and relevant to this discussion. Though it&#039;s about Britain, not the U.S., it should be understandable as long as you remember that &quot;New Labour&quot; refers to Tony Blair&#039;s party, that New Labour was defeated in a general election this year by a coalition of the Conservatives (leader and Prime Minister David Cameron) and the Liberal-Democrats (LibDems).  Personally, I laugh out loud at Gabb&#039;s ability to insult without using any 4-letter words. &lt;a href=&quot;http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/david-miliband-and-the-labour-party-a-suicide-pact-made-in-heaven/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;David Miliband and the Labour Party: A Suicide Pact Made in Heaven?&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of some interest to readers, perhaps, is this recent post by Sean Gabb, discussing a practical policy to further his libertarian aims. Thought-provoking, even if (or perhaps particularly if) you disagree, and relevant to this discussion. Though it&#8217;s about Britain, not the U.S., it should be understandable as long as you remember that &#8220;New Labour&#8221; refers to Tony Blair&#8217;s party, that New Labour was defeated in a general election this year by a coalition of the Conservatives (leader and Prime Minister David Cameron) and the Liberal-Democrats (LibDems).  Personally, I laugh out loud at Gabb&#8217;s ability to insult without using any 4-letter words. <a href="http://libertarianalliance.wordpress.com/2010/09/23/david-miliband-and-the-labour-party-a-suicide-pact-made-in-heaven/" rel="nofollow">David Miliband and the Labour Party: A Suicide Pact Made in Heaven?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726638</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 14:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And yet again this morning.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AP_POLL_UNLOVED_GOP?SITE=TNKNN&amp;SECTION=HOME&amp;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Where to even begin….?

The story is within this story.  
The underlying issue is not that Repubs are still hated more than Dems  (although the AP would hope that’s what you get from this).  
No, the hidden story is the implicit recognition that citizens (those polled) expect the government to fix the mess.
Further, Bush is blamed more… Obama is blamed a bit less….  Incredible.   That the respondents don’t get the correct answer?   No, there is no correct answer; the dichotomy is an absurdity --  the nonsense that the so-called economy is the makings of one human being.

Those polled want the government to fix this, and dollars-to-donuts they don’t mean move toward a free market.
What a way to kick off the weekend.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yet again this morning.</p>
<p><a href="http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AP_POLL_UNLOVED_GOP?SITE=TNKNN&#038;SECTION=HOME&#038;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT" rel="nofollow">http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_AP_POLL_UNLOVED_GOP?SITE=TNKNN&#038;SECTION=HOME&#038;TEMPLATE=DEFAULT</a></p>
<p>Where to even begin….?</p>
<p>The story is within this story.<br />
The underlying issue is not that Repubs are still hated more than Dems  (although the AP would hope that’s what you get from this).<br />
No, the hidden story is the implicit recognition that citizens (those polled) expect the government to fix the mess.<br />
Further, Bush is blamed more… Obama is blamed a bit less….  Incredible.   That the respondents don’t get the correct answer?   No, there is no correct answer; the dichotomy is an absurdity &#8212;  the nonsense that the so-called economy is the makings of one human being.</p>
<p>Those polled want the government to fix this, and dollars-to-donuts they don’t mean move toward a free market.<br />
What a way to kick off the weekend.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Absolutely, I agree. But we&#039;re not currently living in that world are we? How do we get to that world? Revolution?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Absolutely, I agree. But we&#8217;re not currently living in that world are we? How do we get to that world? Revolution?</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:27:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, he did. It&#039;s sad that he&#039;s the best we could do.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, he did. It&#8217;s sad that he&#8217;s the best we could do.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Coleman</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726615</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Coleman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 12:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A Republican pledge means nothing if it&#039;s not followed through with action. Ignoring for a moment the problems in the pledge itself, and examining only the liberty-minded parts of it, are we really supposed to believe that the Republicans will follow through?

Well, I look at it this way: (i) There&#039;s no single historical example of this scale of reform in the direction of liberty, but lots of examples of promises to do so. (ii) These very same politicians are the ones who masterminded and ran the government during the Bush years, which were the worst this country has seen until now. (iii) The Republicans had several chances to show that they were serious about liberty in the form of supporting Ron Paul, and they have failed to do so every time.

In other words, (i) history warns us, (ii) these guys are clearly being opportunistic, not genuine, and (iii) they themselves have rejected liberty-minded reforms in recent memory.

Excuse me for being a bit &quot;too cool for school&quot; here. I&#039;m calling BS on this pledge, and in five years you can return me the favor by admitting you were terribly mistaken.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Republican pledge means nothing if it&#8217;s not followed through with action. Ignoring for a moment the problems in the pledge itself, and examining only the liberty-minded parts of it, are we really supposed to believe that the Republicans will follow through?</p>
<p>Well, I look at it this way: (i) There&#8217;s no single historical example of this scale of reform in the direction of liberty, but lots of examples of promises to do so. (ii) These very same politicians are the ones who masterminded and ran the government during the Bush years, which were the worst this country has seen until now. (iii) The Republicans had several chances to show that they were serious about liberty in the form of supporting Ron Paul, and they have failed to do so every time.</p>
<p>In other words, (i) history warns us, (ii) these guys are clearly being opportunistic, not genuine, and (iii) they themselves have rejected liberty-minded reforms in recent memory.</p>
<p>Excuse me for being a bit &#8220;too cool for school&#8221; here. I&#8217;m calling BS on this pledge, and in five years you can return me the favor by admitting you were terribly mistaken.</p>
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		<title>By: newson</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726573</link>
		<dc:creator>newson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Sep 2010 05:56:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[excellent and wise comments by both brian drake and phinn.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>excellent and wise comments by both brian drake and phinn.</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:38:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good observation.  And consistent across the board.  
Recent establishment media outlets were implying that Obama&#039;s and the Democrats&#039; message was similar to your assessment about the GOP:  &quot;We may be bad but they&#039;re even worse.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good observation.  And consistent across the board.<br />
Recent establishment media outlets were implying that Obama&#8217;s and the Democrats&#8217; message was similar to your assessment about the GOP:  &#8220;We may be bad but they&#8217;re even worse.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Franklin</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726502</link>
		<dc:creator>Franklin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:32:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;As Reagan said, &#039;Government is not the solution, government is the problem.&#039; &quot;

And then he expanded it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As Reagan said, &#8216;Government is not the solution, government is the problem.&#8217; &#8221;</p>
<p>And then he expanded it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrhuh</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726501</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrhuh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Government agents and stooges need life-blood. They won’t destroy the gravy train.&quot;

This reminds me of the movie, &quot;Kingpin&quot; where Woody Harrelson&#039;s character is explaining to Randy Quaid&#039;s character that tobacco companies wouldn&#039;t lie about their product since if you died, then they wouldn&#039;t have any more customers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Government agents and stooges need life-blood. They won’t destroy the gravy train.&#8221;</p>
<p>This reminds me of the movie, &#8220;Kingpin&#8221; where Woody Harrelson&#8217;s character is explaining to Randy Quaid&#8217;s character that tobacco companies wouldn&#8217;t lie about their product since if you died, then they wouldn&#8217;t have any more customers.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Murray</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Murray</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:37:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You know, William, make good on the 1992 Contract With America and Reagan&#039;s promises from the late 1970s and I may buy into your bologna. Setting up yet another contract when every prior one was broken isn&#039;t going to win hearts and minds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, William, make good on the 1992 Contract With America and Reagan&#8217;s promises from the late 1970s and I may buy into your bologna. Setting up yet another contract when every prior one was broken isn&#8217;t going to win hearts and minds.</p>
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		<title>By: William P</title>
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		<dc:creator>William P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:05:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And for all these reasons I read the original texts of Mises, Rothbard, et al and do my best to stay far away their too-often rabid supporters.  Misanthrope.org, more like it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And for all these reasons I read the original texts of Mises, Rothbard, et al and do my best to stay far away their too-often rabid supporters.  Misanthrope.org, more like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Phinn</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13993/well-this-about-sums-it-up/comment-page-1/#comment-726486</link>
		<dc:creator>Phinn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Sep 2010 20:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I wonder what General Washington would say.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, wonder no more!  Here&#039;s what he actually said (translated into modern American English): 

A.  &quot;Get back to work, slave.  That field won&#039;t plant itself.&quot;
B.  &quot;I like conscription.  Compulsory armies are much more convenient to work with, compared to voluntary militias.&quot; 
C. &quot;Pay my organization a cut of your whiskey proceeds, or this army and I are going to kill you.&quot;  

Tell me again why I should support the U.S. government?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I wonder what General Washington would say.</i></p>
<p>Well, wonder no more!  Here&#8217;s what he actually said (translated into modern American English): </p>
<p>A.  &#8220;Get back to work, slave.  That field won&#8217;t plant itself.&#8221;<br />
B.  &#8220;I like conscription.  Compulsory armies are much more convenient to work with, compared to voluntary militias.&#8221;<br />
C. &#8220;Pay my organization a cut of your whiskey proceeds, or this army and I are going to kill you.&#8221;  </p>
<p>Tell me again why I should support the U.S. government?</p>
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