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	<title>Comments on: The Best Work of Its Kind Since Rothbard&#8217;s For a New Liberty</title>
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		<title>By: Fallon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fallon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:40:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think maybe you misapply determinism. Grant that the universe and everything in it, including humans, is governed by cause and effect:  it still has to be allowed that human driven cause and effect differs from physical objects; humans make conscious decisions. So to state flatly, as you have, that &quot;Every action creates a counter-reaction and at some level of social evolution that becomes statist&quot;, is denying humans their humaness. There is no inevitability or social evolution outside individuals attempting to improve their situations. There are no &#039;forces of history&#039; so to speak.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think maybe you misapply determinism. Grant that the universe and everything in it, including humans, is governed by cause and effect:  it still has to be allowed that human driven cause and effect differs from physical objects; humans make conscious decisions. So to state flatly, as you have, that &#8220;Every action creates a counter-reaction and at some level of social evolution that becomes statist&#8221;, is denying humans their humaness. There is no inevitability or social evolution outside individuals attempting to improve their situations. There are no &#8216;forces of history&#8217; so to speak.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ the Apostate</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ the Apostate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:25:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Tricky, isn’t it?&quot;

Not at all.  Choosing to buy or not buy from a person, or sell or not sell to a person, is well within your rights.  Choosing to use force to prevent a person from buying from or selling to another is not.  Easy peasy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Tricky, isn’t it?&#8221;</p>
<p>Not at all.  Choosing to buy or not buy from a person, or sell or not sell to a person, is well within your rights.  Choosing to use force to prevent a person from buying from or selling to another is not.  Easy peasy.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, true.  but is it the same to imagine a group of people getting together and preventing a person from participating in the market because you decide it&#039;s within your rights under &quot;free association?&quot;  You can buy or not buy.  Sell or not sell.  But how far does this &quot;freedom&quot; go before it impinges on the freedoms of another?
Tricky, isn&#039;t it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, true.  but is it the same to imagine a group of people getting together and preventing a person from participating in the market because you decide it&#8217;s within your rights under &#8220;free association?&#8221;  You can buy or not buy.  Sell or not sell.  But how far does this &#8220;freedom&#8221; go before it impinges on the freedoms of another?<br />
Tricky, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
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		<title>By: Wildberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you ABR.

I was with you right up to the last, when you made the leap to your conclusion.  the answers seem simple, although you are making a different point?  
&#039;Could you guarantee that the market would make your size shoe? No.&quot;  Yes, if I had something of value to trade for it.  Latent production capacity will respond to demand in a free market.
&quot;Could you predict how many shoe companies might emerge? No.&quot;  Yes.  Enough to fill demand.
&quot;Could you predict the prices of the shoes sold?  &quot;  Yes.  The prices would be set in the exchange between seller and buyer.  Over time this price would tend to normalize because of competitive market forces.

So why would I conclude that I should leave it to the state, unles they so completely satisfied the needs of society, that no one had an economic incentive to compete?

We choose not to leave it to the State precisely because they fail to measure up to what the free market system can deliver.  The &quot;States&quot; desire to prevent &quot;free-market intervention&quot; into their markets, therefore is &quot;wrong&quot;.  

Where am I going wrong?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you ABR.</p>
<p>I was with you right up to the last, when you made the leap to your conclusion.  the answers seem simple, although you are making a different point?<br />
&#8216;Could you guarantee that the market would make your size shoe? No.&#8221;  Yes, if I had something of value to trade for it.  Latent production capacity will respond to demand in a free market.<br />
&#8220;Could you predict how many shoe companies might emerge? No.&#8221;  Yes.  Enough to fill demand.<br />
&#8220;Could you predict the prices of the shoes sold?  &#8221;  Yes.  The prices would be set in the exchange between seller and buyer.  Over time this price would tend to normalize because of competitive market forces.</p>
<p>So why would I conclude that I should leave it to the state, unles they so completely satisfied the needs of society, that no one had an economic incentive to compete?</p>
<p>We choose not to leave it to the State precisely because they fail to measure up to what the free market system can deliver.  The &#8220;States&#8221; desire to prevent &#8220;free-market intervention&#8221; into their markets, therefore is &#8220;wrong&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Where am I going wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: newson</title>
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		<dc:creator>newson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:15:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the state has so many tentacles, being completely disengaged from it is nigh on impossible. in any case, the book will probably appear on the torrents sooner or later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the state has so many tentacles, being completely disengaged from it is nigh on impossible. in any case, the book will probably appear on the torrents sooner or later.</p>
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		<title>By: Wildberry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wildberry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Sep 2010 00:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thank you Fallon,
Yes, you and I could easily agree in the proposition that peaceful cooperation is superior to other alternatives.  Getting everyone in any given social structure to go along is the problem, especially if there is no room for any form of coercion allowed, i.e. some members of the group will choose not to go along, and calculate themselves to a different conclusion.  Every action creates a counter-reaction and at some level of social evolution that becomes statist.  Since statism is bad, everything that leads to it must be rejected.  
I am looking for a persuasive argument for anarchism but find none.  Social organisms organize. But upon what principles?  It appears that the issue has to do with the point at which &quot;self-government&quot; becomes &quot;statism&quot;, and oppression seems to be the determinant factor.
However, complete lack of enforceability results in a class of victims in one form or another, and the oppression of the State become oppression by the “outlaws”.  
Primitive cultures lived by this principle:  Love your brother or vanquish him.  Those are your choices.  Isn’t that all this thread comes down to?  Accept the State or defeat it?  And replace it with what?  A society based on a new set or organizing principles, perhaps; principles which embrace local over central, freedom over intervention, competition over monopoly, etc.  I can’t see the argument that this is not enough, and we need something defended as anarchism.  I just can’t get it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Fallon,<br />
Yes, you and I could easily agree in the proposition that peaceful cooperation is superior to other alternatives.  Getting everyone in any given social structure to go along is the problem, especially if there is no room for any form of coercion allowed, i.e. some members of the group will choose not to go along, and calculate themselves to a different conclusion.  Every action creates a counter-reaction and at some level of social evolution that becomes statist.  Since statism is bad, everything that leads to it must be rejected.<br />
I am looking for a persuasive argument for anarchism but find none.  Social organisms organize. But upon what principles?  It appears that the issue has to do with the point at which &#8220;self-government&#8221; becomes &#8220;statism&#8221;, and oppression seems to be the determinant factor.<br />
However, complete lack of enforceability results in a class of victims in one form or another, and the oppression of the State become oppression by the “outlaws”.<br />
Primitive cultures lived by this principle:  Love your brother or vanquish him.  Those are your choices.  Isn’t that all this thread comes down to?  Accept the State or defeat it?  And replace it with what?  A society based on a new set or organizing principles, perhaps; principles which embrace local over central, freedom over intervention, competition over monopoly, etc.  I can’t see the argument that this is not enough, and we need something defended as anarchism.  I just can’t get it.</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What does this even mean?&quot;

I&#039;ve seen children all over the world indoctrinated in violent stupidity, momo.

&quot;If you are alluding to some conspiracy by western belligerents using puppet rulers to incite the Muslim population to violence and adherence to barbaric social norms, through the use of religious indoctrination...&quot;

Woof, you&#039;re dumber than I thought. Now I&#039;ve lost all interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What does this even mean?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve seen children all over the world indoctrinated in violent stupidity, momo.</p>
<p>&#8220;If you are alluding to some conspiracy by western belligerents using puppet rulers to incite the Muslim population to violence and adherence to barbaric social norms, through the use of religious indoctrination&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Woof, you&#8217;re dumber than I thought. Now I&#8217;ve lost all interest.</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:45:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Now I&#039;ve watched your second propaganda video, junior, and I&#039;m reminded of the other great tool of Empire: Quislings and Toms. Nothing she said regarding the indoctrination of children in school and church can not also be said about the indoctrination of American children in school and church...*except*...warfare and conversion require completely different tactics for weaker groups.

The treatment of women in much of Islam *and* in much of the West is generally deplorable. And there&#039;s another near parallel between American ghetto culture and Arab ghetto culture that I don&#039;t find to be a coincidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I&#8217;ve watched your second propaganda video, junior, and I&#8217;m reminded of the other great tool of Empire: Quislings and Toms. Nothing she said regarding the indoctrination of children in school and church can not also be said about the indoctrination of American children in school and church&#8230;*except*&#8230;warfare and conversion require completely different tactics for weaker groups.</p>
<p>The treatment of women in much of Islam *and* in much of the West is generally deplorable. And there&#8217;s another near parallel between American ghetto culture and Arab ghetto culture that I don&#8217;t find to be a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: Raynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 19:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I’ve seen all of this stuff, and documentaries about the Hitler Youth and Sarah Palin rallies, too. Very big deal.&quot;

What does this even mean?

&quot;Let me tell you how Empire works, son: The best example I know of is during the extermination of all Ute men. After pushing them further and further towards the worthless “Four Corners” area, the gangsters appointed the most vile and Indian-hating governor they could to enrage and provoke them. When the target group almost inevitably does something stupid, that’s the pretext to open up the slaughter. You see, when you apply serious pressure to a group, the hotheads always rise to the top and a very nasty general process is put into the works (as shown in your videos). Works every time, worked really well on the Japanese throughout the 20s and 30s, working great in Gaza today.&quot;

If you are alluding to some conspiracy by western belligerents using puppet rulers to incite  the Muslim population to violence and adherence to barbaric social norms, through the use of religious indoctrination, then you&#039;re going to have to provide some serious evidence for that claim. Where do Islamic groups, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, that call for the restoration of the caliphate fit into all of this?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I’ve seen all of this stuff, and documentaries about the Hitler Youth and Sarah Palin rallies, too. Very big deal.&#8221;</p>
<p>What does this even mean?</p>
<p>&#8220;Let me tell you how Empire works, son: The best example I know of is during the extermination of all Ute men. After pushing them further and further towards the worthless “Four Corners” area, the gangsters appointed the most vile and Indian-hating governor they could to enrage and provoke them. When the target group almost inevitably does something stupid, that’s the pretext to open up the slaughter. You see, when you apply serious pressure to a group, the hotheads always rise to the top and a very nasty general process is put into the works (as shown in your videos). Works every time, worked really well on the Japanese throughout the 20s and 30s, working great in Gaza today.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you are alluding to some conspiracy by western belligerents using puppet rulers to incite  the Muslim population to violence and adherence to barbaric social norms, through the use of religious indoctrination, then you&#8217;re going to have to provide some serious evidence for that claim. Where do Islamic groups, such as the Muslim Brotherhood, that call for the restoration of the caliphate fit into all of this?</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve seen all of this stuff, and documentaries about the Hitler Youth and Sarah Palin rallies, too. Very big deal.

Let me tell you how Empire works, son: The best example I know of is during the extermination of all Ute men. After pushing them further and further towards the worthless &quot;Four Corners&quot; area, the gangsters appointed the most vile and Indian-hating governor they could to enrage and provoke them. When the target group almost inevitably does something stupid, that&#039;s the pretext to open up the slaughter. You see, when you apply serious pressure to a group, the hotheads always rise to the top and a very nasty general process is put into the works (as shown in your videos). Works every time, worked really well on the Japanese throughout the 20s and 30s, working great in Gaza today.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen all of this stuff, and documentaries about the Hitler Youth and Sarah Palin rallies, too. Very big deal.</p>
<p>Let me tell you how Empire works, son: The best example I know of is during the extermination of all Ute men. After pushing them further and further towards the worthless &#8220;Four Corners&#8221; area, the gangsters appointed the most vile and Indian-hating governor they could to enrage and provoke them. When the target group almost inevitably does something stupid, that&#8217;s the pretext to open up the slaughter. You see, when you apply serious pressure to a group, the hotheads always rise to the top and a very nasty general process is put into the works (as shown in your videos). Works every time, worked really well on the Japanese throughout the 20s and 30s, working great in Gaza today.</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Must I do the searching for you, [inadvisable slur]&quot;

That was the first one I ran into, asshole. I&#039;ll check these out too, thanks so much.

Morons + mercantilists = permanent war.

Big deal, I don&#039;t want to win, I want to stop being robbed to murder people, I wish you&#039;d smarten up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Must I do the searching for you, [inadvisable slur]&#8221;</p>
<p>That was the first one I ran into, asshole. I&#8217;ll check these out too, thanks so much.</p>
<p>Morons + mercantilists = permanent war.</p>
<p>Big deal, I don&#8217;t want to win, I want to stop being robbed to murder people, I wish you&#8217;d smarten up.</p>
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		<title>By: Raynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Ah, so much interesting stuff today, I can’t pull myself away. Checking some of that out, very funny stuff. This guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo

is apparently the Arab Chris Rock. The persecution complexes are very similar, and what do you know, the same bogeyman…hmmm.&quot;

It&#039;s nice of you to pick out the ideal material for erecting a straw men. Must I do the searching for you child?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc&amp;feature=related

Are Nonie Darwish and Ayaan Hirsi-Ali tacit warmongers who chase booger men?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRSE02mwjo


&quot;Now it’s becoming more clear to me, looks like you are another war salesman, unwittingly or not.&quot;

Really? And here I thought that you were trying put forth a spurious argument that would automatically declare you the winner, and shield you from any sort of future criticism. I see that repackaged social contract theories are very popular on this blog.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ah, so much interesting stuff today, I can’t pull myself away. Checking some of that out, very funny stuff. This guy</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo</a></p>
<p>is apparently the Arab Chris Rock. The persecution complexes are very similar, and what do you know, the same bogeyman…hmmm.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s nice of you to pick out the ideal material for erecting a straw men. Must I do the searching for you child?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc&#038;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtt8V25lGmc&#038;feature=related</a></p>
<p>Are Nonie Darwish and Ayaan Hirsi-Ali tacit warmongers who chase booger men?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRSE02mwjo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmRSE02mwjo</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Now it’s becoming more clear to me, looks like you are another war salesman, unwittingly or not.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? And here I thought that you were trying put forth a spurious argument that would automatically declare you the winner, and shield you from any sort of future criticism. I see that repackaged social contract theories are very popular on this blog.</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ah, so much interesting stuff today, I can&#039;t pull myself away. Checking some of that out, very funny stuff. This guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo

is apparently the Arab Chris Rock. The persecution complexes are very similar, and what do you know, the same bogeyman...hmmm.

Now it&#039;s becoming more clear to me, looks like you are another war salesman, unwittingly or not.

&quot;I’m also an American who has never crossed the borders of my own county who enjoys exercises in confirmation bias.&quot;

I&#039;d say the most influencial experience in my life was just out of my teens living with peasants in one of the U.S. Empire&#039;s closer, but still outlying plantations. I was there helping rebuild an earthquake damaged Costa Rican church (observing *that* kind of Imperialism is another story) and it was the start of *my* life-long hatred of mercantilism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, so much interesting stuff today, I can&#8217;t pull myself away. Checking some of that out, very funny stuff. This guy</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdLpxmN9SRo</a></p>
<p>is apparently the Arab Chris Rock. The persecution complexes are very similar, and what do you know, the same bogeyman&#8230;hmmm.</p>
<p>Now it&#8217;s becoming more clear to me, looks like you are another war salesman, unwittingly or not.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m also an American who has never crossed the borders of my own county who enjoys exercises in confirmation bias.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say the most influencial experience in my life was just out of my teens living with peasants in one of the U.S. Empire&#8217;s closer, but still outlying plantations. I was there helping rebuild an earthquake damaged Costa Rican church (observing *that* kind of Imperialism is another story) and it was the start of *my* life-long hatred of mercantilism.</p>
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		<title>By: Raynor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raynor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 17:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Butler Shaffer points out that the neocons and warmongers aim at creating an impression that there is an “Islamic” threat, religious in nature, when the reality is that the major attacks on western targets sprung from political motivations.&quot;

Butler Shaffer should stop stroking himself in the Rockwellite echo-chamber and take a look at MEMRI TV for once.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Butler Shaffer points out that the neocons and warmongers aim at creating an impression that there is an “Islamic” threat, religious in nature, when the reality is that the major attacks on western targets sprung from political motivations.&#8221;</p>
<p>Butler Shaffer should stop stroking himself in the Rockwellite echo-chamber and take a look at MEMRI TV for once.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Albin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Albin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 16:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Self-defense - of course.  What&#039;s going to happen when we pull our troops out of the warzones - to innocent people there, and to people who have grown to hate us by being there?  I&#039;m not saying there is an easy answer...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Self-defense &#8211; of course.  What&#8217;s going to happen when we pull our troops out of the warzones &#8211; to innocent people there, and to people who have grown to hate us by being there?  I&#8217;m not saying there is an easy answer&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:36:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It *is* a dilly of a pickle, boniek, I grant you. And it provides so much grist for statists, as you can see. Ah well, such considerations and fine sensibilities never prevented atheists from joining seminaries and destroying churches from the inside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It *is* a dilly of a pickle, boniek, I grant you. And it provides so much grist for statists, as you can see. Ah well, such considerations and fine sensibilities never prevented atheists from joining seminaries and destroying churches from the inside.</p>
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		<title>By: boniek</title>
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		<dc:creator>boniek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:22:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mpolzkill
Not really. I&#039;m arguing that if he is using concept of morality as an argument for something to be undesirable then voluntarily taking part in immoral, by his own standards - no less,  activity makes him immoral too (unless he invented special exemption in cases like his own, but then to me his morality is the same as state morality). 
Disclaimer: I may be wrong and I wish no harm to anyone;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mpolzkill<br />
Not really. I&#8217;m arguing that if he is using concept of morality as an argument for something to be undesirable then voluntarily taking part in immoral, by his own standards &#8211; no less,  activity makes him immoral too (unless he invented special exemption in cases like his own, but then to me his morality is the same as state morality).<br />
Disclaimer: I may be wrong and I wish no harm to anyone;)</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
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		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A statist like Barta would have a good long laugh at all of us in our caves, wouldn&#039;t he?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A statist like Barta would have a good long laugh at all of us in our caves, wouldn&#8217;t he?</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13726/the-best-work-of-its-kind-since-rothbards-for-a-new-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-719369</link>
		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 15:08:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry, Bonicek, I was just responding in general to Barta&#039;s tired ploy. But you are suggesting that if Huebert were seriously anti-state one would think he wouldn&#039;t be involved in this particular &quot;IP&quot; scheme, right?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Bonicek, I was just responding in general to Barta&#8217;s tired ploy. But you are suggesting that if Huebert were seriously anti-state one would think he wouldn&#8217;t be involved in this particular &#8220;IP&#8221; scheme, right?</p>
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		<title>By: boniek</title>
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		<dc:creator>boniek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 14:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@mpolzkill
I don&#039;t understand what you are trying to say. I never said that anyone &quot;needs to&quot; or &quot;should&quot; do something.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mpolzkill<br />
I don&#8217;t understand what you are trying to say. I never said that anyone &#8220;needs to&#8221; or &#8220;should&#8221; do something.</p>
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