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		<title>By: Red Bane</title>
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		<dc:creator>Red Bane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Might be of interest..

Deficiencies of Austrian Economic thought:

http://conversationwithcrombette.blogspot.com/2010/09/deficiences-of-austrian-economic.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might be of interest..</p>
<p>Deficiencies of Austrian Economic thought:</p>
<p><a href="http://conversationwithcrombette.blogspot.com/2010/09/deficiences-of-austrian-economic.html" rel="nofollow">http://conversationwithcrombette.blogspot.com/2010/09/deficiences-of-austrian-economic.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Avery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 21:13:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Will they be offering a course on Creationism in the biology department as well?  Or perhaps a course on the Humors to a health program?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will they be offering a course on Creationism in the biology department as well?  Or perhaps a course on the Humors to a health program?</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Salerno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Salerno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 19:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh for goodness sake, I have already twice clarifiied  my position on external private funding of Austrian economics courses and programs in very plain language.   I find myself in the position of having to reiterate my positon yet again.  So allow me to approach this from another angle. In May 2003 I wrote a letter to Professor Israel Kirzner in which I commented on the private funding of the NYU Austrian program of which I was a very grateful beneficiary.  I wrote:

&quot;[My point] was the Mengerian one that all human endeavors, including the pursuit of scientific truth, require for their realization a rational structure of complementary material resources, that is &#039;property.&#039;  Not only is the (voluntary, non-political) &#039;gushing forth&#039; of material resources from sympathetic patrons not inherently corrupting, it is, and was, positively indispensable to the development of all branches of contemporary Austrian economics.  As one, who like yourself, takes Menger&#039;s teachings seriously, I love the gushing forth of resources from privates sources and fervently hope, for the sake of my own research and that of other Austrians, that it intensifies in the future.&quot;
 
I cannot speak any more plainly than that.  That was my position in 2003 and remains my position today.  Once again: the point of my original post was NOT that subsidized Austrian courses and programs were in some way tainted or inferior.  I called Peter Klein&#039;s  course  a &quot;historic&quot; step forward for the Austrian movement because as an unsubsidized part of a regular graduate mainstream curiculum it reveals the beginning of a more accepting attitude of mainstream economists toward Austrian economics.  I hope this movement continues and I welcome and eagerly  await the introduction of more graduate courses in Austrian economics at mainstream institutions like Suffolk University and others.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh for goodness sake, I have already twice clarifiied  my position on external private funding of Austrian economics courses and programs in very plain language.   I find myself in the position of having to reiterate my positon yet again.  So allow me to approach this from another angle. In May 2003 I wrote a letter to Professor Israel Kirzner in which I commented on the private funding of the NYU Austrian program of which I was a very grateful beneficiary.  I wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;[My point] was the Mengerian one that all human endeavors, including the pursuit of scientific truth, require for their realization a rational structure of complementary material resources, that is &#8216;property.&#8217;  Not only is the (voluntary, non-political) &#8216;gushing forth&#8217; of material resources from sympathetic patrons not inherently corrupting, it is, and was, positively indispensable to the development of all branches of contemporary Austrian economics.  As one, who like yourself, takes Menger&#8217;s teachings seriously, I love the gushing forth of resources from privates sources and fervently hope, for the sake of my own research and that of other Austrians, that it intensifies in the future.&#8221;</p>
<p>I cannot speak any more plainly than that.  That was my position in 2003 and remains my position today.  Once again: the point of my original post was NOT that subsidized Austrian courses and programs were in some way tainted or inferior.  I called Peter Klein&#8217;s  course  a &#8220;historic&#8221; step forward for the Austrian movement because as an unsubsidized part of a regular graduate mainstream curiculum it reveals the beginning of a more accepting attitude of mainstream economists toward Austrian economics.  I hope this movement continues and I welcome and eagerly  await the introduction of more graduate courses in Austrian economics at mainstream institutions like Suffolk University and others.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Boettke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Boettke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 14:20:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nathan,

We should applaud Professor Klein&#039;s class, and I have at Coordination Problem. But you are right.  At NYU in the 1980s and 1990s, Austrian economics was taught within the standard curriculum of a top 10 department of economics.  I know this because I taught there from 1990-1998 and none of my salary was secured through outside funds, but paid out of the general operating funds of the university budget.  And this is also true for Professor Kirzner and Professor Rizzo.  And was true before me for Professor O&#039;Driscoll and for Professor White.  We did use external funds to pay for research support (including summer support), and to support visiting fellows (including Professor Salerno), student support at the graduate level, and of course the weekly colloquium under Professor Rizzo&#039;s direction.

I don&#039;t know details about the operation at NYU since I left in 1998 as well as I did from 1990-1998, but I know that Professor Rizzo still teaches his Ethics and Economics course, and in fact that it is so popular that they had to hold a section section of it where my former student (and now researcher at NYU&#039;s Development Research Institute with Bill Easterly) Adam Martin taught a section of the course.  And Professor David Harper, who runs the MA program at NYU, has employed in the curriculum various scholars who have Austrian leanings.

Let me reiterate, Professor Klein&#039;s course is to be celebrated and Professor Salerno is right to do so.  It is a great day. And I would hope that many other examples of similar courses crop up all over the place in PhD programs (like Dan Sutter&#039;s course at U of Oaklahoma a few years ago).  I am expecting similar courses to be offered at Suffolk University in the not so distant future --- they already have a group of really good Austrian students coming through their program (contact Ben Powell for information), and I think Troy State in Alabama might be a school to watch over the next decade as well for these sort of educational developments.  I should also point out that Bruce Caldwell teaches a course in the Honors College at Duke, on Hayek and the Austrian School.  It is an undergraduate course, but I spoke in it last year and those students were very good.  

On GMU,  I will just say  that we are very grateful for the multiplicity of private donors (individuals and foundations) who have helped our research and educational mission --- it has enabled a relatively new state university to develop a PhD program (ranked #42 in PhD programs by the JEL, and #1 PhD program in the South by another study published in Applied Econ), boast of 2 Nobel Prize winners on its faculty, develop close working relationships with 2 other Nobel Prize winners, have among its faculty over the years a Distinguished Fellow of the American Economic Association and a John Bates Clark Medal Winner and to this day have a young economists on the faculty who is ranked in the top 100 most influential economists in the world as ranked by RePC.  And GMU as a university was named by US News and World Report a few year ago as the #1 university to watch, and it now consistently ranks in the top research universities in the US and is either the largest or second largest university in Virginia with over 30,000 students and now-a-days has an on-campus population over 5,000 I believe (so is no longer the commuter college it once was).  GMU in 2010, is not the GMU of 1980 -- a lot has happened in-between. Time to update on the information about the school.  And it is also true that Austrian economics has been part of the undergraduate and graduate curriculum throughout  those years, and the graduates of that educational program who have either gone into policy work, foundation work, and/or academia are the greatest testimony to the program.

And don&#039;t forget our first-class basketball program!!!!, we not only went to the final four, but Coach L graduates his players.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nathan,</p>
<p>We should applaud Professor Klein&#8217;s class, and I have at Coordination Problem. But you are right.  At NYU in the 1980s and 1990s, Austrian economics was taught within the standard curriculum of a top 10 department of economics.  I know this because I taught there from 1990-1998 and none of my salary was secured through outside funds, but paid out of the general operating funds of the university budget.  And this is also true for Professor Kirzner and Professor Rizzo.  And was true before me for Professor O&#8217;Driscoll and for Professor White.  We did use external funds to pay for research support (including summer support), and to support visiting fellows (including Professor Salerno), student support at the graduate level, and of course the weekly colloquium under Professor Rizzo&#8217;s direction.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know details about the operation at NYU since I left in 1998 as well as I did from 1990-1998, but I know that Professor Rizzo still teaches his Ethics and Economics course, and in fact that it is so popular that they had to hold a section section of it where my former student (and now researcher at NYU&#8217;s Development Research Institute with Bill Easterly) Adam Martin taught a section of the course.  And Professor David Harper, who runs the MA program at NYU, has employed in the curriculum various scholars who have Austrian leanings.</p>
<p>Let me reiterate, Professor Klein&#8217;s course is to be celebrated and Professor Salerno is right to do so.  It is a great day. And I would hope that many other examples of similar courses crop up all over the place in PhD programs (like Dan Sutter&#8217;s course at U of Oaklahoma a few years ago).  I am expecting similar courses to be offered at Suffolk University in the not so distant future &#8212; they already have a group of really good Austrian students coming through their program (contact Ben Powell for information), and I think Troy State in Alabama might be a school to watch over the next decade as well for these sort of educational developments.  I should also point out that Bruce Caldwell teaches a course in the Honors College at Duke, on Hayek and the Austrian School.  It is an undergraduate course, but I spoke in it last year and those students were very good.  </p>
<p>On GMU,  I will just say  that we are very grateful for the multiplicity of private donors (individuals and foundations) who have helped our research and educational mission &#8212; it has enabled a relatively new state university to develop a PhD program (ranked #42 in PhD programs by the JEL, and #1 PhD program in the South by another study published in Applied Econ), boast of 2 Nobel Prize winners on its faculty, develop close working relationships with 2 other Nobel Prize winners, have among its faculty over the years a Distinguished Fellow of the American Economic Association and a John Bates Clark Medal Winner and to this day have a young economists on the faculty who is ranked in the top 100 most influential economists in the world as ranked by RePC.  And GMU as a university was named by US News and World Report a few year ago as the #1 university to watch, and it now consistently ranks in the top research universities in the US and is either the largest or second largest university in Virginia with over 30,000 students and now-a-days has an on-campus population over 5,000 I believe (so is no longer the commuter college it once was).  GMU in 2010, is not the GMU of 1980 &#8212; a lot has happened in-between. Time to update on the information about the school.  And it is also true that Austrian economics has been part of the undergraduate and graduate curriculum throughout  those years, and the graduates of that educational program who have either gone into policy work, foundation work, and/or academia are the greatest testimony to the program.</p>
<p>And don&#8217;t forget our first-class basketball program!!!!, we not only went to the final four, but Coach L graduates his players.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua Michael Njogolo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joshua Michael Njogolo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is really good school for many economist especially from African countries like Tanzania. I  got a  book about  an introduction of Austrian Economics from Professor Debroah Walker from Fort Lewis College]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is really good school for many economist especially from African countries like Tanzania. I  got a  book about  an introduction of Austrian Economics from Professor Debroah Walker from Fort Lewis College</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:53:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, Nathan, the same NYU that has not given a raise nor any recognition to the brilliant Dr. Rizzo in that many years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, Nathan, the same NYU that has not given a raise nor any recognition to the brilliant Dr. Rizzo in that many years.</p>
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		<title>By: Troy Camplin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Troy Camplin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 06:22:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for the clarificationl. I certainly took it as a potshot of GMU. We need to be friendly with all our fellow Austrians :-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the clarificationl. I certainly took it as a potshot of GMU. We need to be friendly with all our fellow Austrians <img src='http://archive.mises.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nathan T. Freema</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan T. Freema</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 03:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps I never understood the source of the funding, but NYU had a very active Austrian program in the early 90&#039;s. I know because I was privileged to take some 18 credit hours from Israel Kirzner and Mario Rizzo, as well as attend the Austrian doctoral colloquium as an undergraduate.

Maybe I misunderstood what was happening at time, but I saw a major university with a broad acceptance of process-oriented economics 20 years ago, extending all the way down to freshmen.

Make no mistake, I rejoice in the creation of this program at the University of Missouri, and hold tremendous respect for Prof. Klein. I simply don&#039;t understand how this is unprecedented. It would seem that NYU offered this same degree of respect two decades ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps I never understood the source of the funding, but NYU had a very active Austrian program in the early 90&#8242;s. I know because I was privileged to take some 18 credit hours from Israel Kirzner and Mario Rizzo, as well as attend the Austrian doctoral colloquium as an undergraduate.</p>
<p>Maybe I misunderstood what was happening at time, but I saw a major university with a broad acceptance of process-oriented economics 20 years ago, extending all the way down to freshmen.</p>
<p>Make no mistake, I rejoice in the creation of this program at the University of Missouri, and hold tremendous respect for Prof. Klein. I simply don&#8217;t understand how this is unprecedented. It would seem that NYU offered this same degree of respect two decades ago.</p>
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		<title>By: fakename</title>
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		<dc:creator>fakename</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Aug 2010 00:49:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr./Prof. Salerno, although I agree that it is good that mainstream economics is now seriously studying Austrian theory, I am worried that with this new turn the school might become too popular and fall into decline as the French Liberal School. Do you expect such a future trend?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr./Prof. Salerno, although I agree that it is good that mainstream economics is now seriously studying Austrian theory, I am worried that with this new turn the school might become too popular and fall into decline as the French Liberal School. Do you expect such a future trend?</p>
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		<title>By: Jake Roundtree</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jake Roundtree</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 21:23:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Go over to Coordination Problem and see the blatant disrespect they pay Professor Salerno and other scholars associated with the Mises Institute. Its not a pot shot if what he is saying about GMU is true. If you don&#039;t like what Salerno says then do not read it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go over to Coordination Problem and see the blatant disrespect they pay Professor Salerno and other scholars associated with the Mises Institute. Its not a pot shot if what he is saying about GMU is true. If you don&#8217;t like what Salerno says then do not read it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Salerno</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Salerno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 20:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am in complete agreement with Ben Ranson&#039;s post.  When Auburn University had a Ph.D. program in economics in the 1980s and 1990s, the Mises Institute externally funded fellowships for students, many of whom received their doctorates and went on to pursue productive careers in academia.   This was a cause for great rejoicing.  And, personally, I would welcome and accept  external funding in the blink of an eye to teach an Austrian course or set up a niche Austrian program at my university.  The point I was making however is that an Austrian course offered as part of the regular curriculum  especially in a Ph.D. program is significant because it indicates changing attitudes on the part of academic economists who, since World War 2, have  been particularly dismissive of AE.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in complete agreement with Ben Ranson&#8217;s post.  When Auburn University had a Ph.D. program in economics in the 1980s and 1990s, the Mises Institute externally funded fellowships for students, many of whom received their doctorates and went on to pursue productive careers in academia.   This was a cause for great rejoicing.  And, personally, I would welcome and accept  external funding in the blink of an eye to teach an Austrian course or set up a niche Austrian program at my university.  The point I was making however is that an Austrian course offered as part of the regular curriculum  especially in a Ph.D. program is significant because it indicates changing attitudes on the part of academic economists who, since World War 2, have  been particularly dismissive of AE.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Leckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Leckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 13:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Richard, that looks perfect, and you&#039;ve proved both my laziness, and the depth of resources on this website. I should&#039;ve no doubt spared the question and just searched for &quot;williamson&quot;.  What a remarkable website this is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Richard, that looks perfect, and you&#8217;ve proved both my laziness, and the depth of resources on this website. I should&#8217;ve no doubt spared the question and just searched for &#8220;williamson&#8221;.  What a remarkable website this is.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Moss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Moss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 11:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jon,

Perhaps this article might be a &#039;start&#039; to answering your question?

http://mises.org/daily/3784]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jon,</p>
<p>Perhaps this article might be a &#8216;start&#8217; to answering your question?</p>
<p><a href="http://mises.org/daily/3784" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/daily/3784</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jon Leckie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Leckie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 08:07:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is a little lazy of me, but where would folks place Oliver Williamson, into which school/line of economics? I read a little bit of his stuff at uni, and have Economic Institutions of Capitalism on my bookshelf. I&#039;d be interested in anyone&#039;s views.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a little lazy of me, but where would folks place Oliver Williamson, into which school/line of economics? I read a little bit of his stuff at uni, and have Economic Institutions of Capitalism on my bookshelf. I&#8217;d be interested in anyone&#8217;s views.</p>
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		<title>By: impact crusher</title>
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		<dc:creator>impact crusher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 06:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good news.thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good news.thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: EC</title>
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		<dc:creator>EC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:57:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is fantastic!  

The Austrian School is gaining momentum.. I feel big changes coming..]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fantastic!  </p>
<p>The Austrian School is gaining momentum.. I feel big changes coming..</p>
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		<title>By: William P</title>
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		<dc:creator>William P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very good news indeed!  Either this crisis is the death of traditional Keynesianism, or its the end of us!

Ha, well, seriously this truly is hopeful news.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very good news indeed!  Either this crisis is the death of traditional Keynesianism, or its the end of us!</p>
<p>Ha, well, seriously this truly is hopeful news.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Albin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Albin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 02:20:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I understand what you are saying, but any time state money (i.e., money that was stolen from all of us who are forced to pay taxes) is involved in anything, the possibility of perversion creeps in.  

For example: 

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/university-illinois-instructor-fired-catholic-beliefs/

His position was not even paid for by the university, but was held on university property (i.e., my property, I live in Illinois), so they fired him.  I heard that he actually got his position back recently after a firestorm of protests, but this event goes to the point I was making.  I don&#039;t even know if I would agree with this guy&#039;s views or not - not really the point here.  When you do something that the state considers wrong, and they are paying for it in any way, you are screwed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I understand what you are saying, but any time state money (i.e., money that was stolen from all of us who are forced to pay taxes) is involved in anything, the possibility of perversion creeps in.  </p>
<p>For example: </p>
<p><a href="http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/university-illinois-instructor-fired-catholic-beliefs/" rel="nofollow">http://www.foxnews.com/us/2010/07/09/university-illinois-instructor-fired-catholic-beliefs/</a></p>
<p>His position was not even paid for by the university, but was held on university property (i.e., my property, I live in Illinois), so they fired him.  I heard that he actually got his position back recently after a firestorm of protests, but this event goes to the point I was making.  I don&#8217;t even know if I would agree with this guy&#8217;s views or not &#8211; not really the point here.  When you do something that the state considers wrong, and they are paying for it in any way, you are screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Ranson</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13694/historic-day-in-austrian-economiics/comment-page-1/#comment-718110</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Ranson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:18:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The difference between &quot;a niche Austrian program dependent on external funding&quot; and a &quot;part of the regular curriculum of a mainstream program at a major research university&quot; really doesn&#039;t matter much in the big picture.  Any time Austrian economics makes headway at the the universities, I find cause for rejoicing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The difference between &#8220;a niche Austrian program dependent on external funding&#8221; and a &#8220;part of the regular curriculum of a mainstream program at a major research university&#8221; really doesn&#8217;t matter much in the big picture.  Any time Austrian economics makes headway at the the universities, I find cause for rejoicing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Salerno</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/13694/historic-day-in-austrian-economiics/comment-page-1/#comment-718105</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Salerno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Aug 2010 01:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I want to clarify my statement that &quot;the course is not part of a niche Austrian program dependent on external funding.&quot;  This was not intended as a potshot at GMU.  In fact, external funding of Austrian courses on technical economic theory is all to the good. The point that I was making is that an Austrian theory seminar offered  as part of the regular curriculum of a mainstream Ph.D program portends an important and historic  shift in the profession&#039;s attitude toward Austrian economics.  This is quite clear if the statement is read in its full context.  To wit:  &quot;What is so important about this event is that the course is not part of a niche Austrian program dependent on external funding, but is part of the regular curriculum of a mainstream program at a major research university. This is a clear signal that Austrian economics is beginning to be taken seriously by mainstream economists.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to clarify my statement that &#8220;the course is not part of a niche Austrian program dependent on external funding.&#8221;  This was not intended as a potshot at GMU.  In fact, external funding of Austrian courses on technical economic theory is all to the good. The point that I was making is that an Austrian theory seminar offered  as part of the regular curriculum of a mainstream Ph.D program portends an important and historic  shift in the profession&#8217;s attitude toward Austrian economics.  This is quite clear if the statement is read in its full context.  To wit:  &#8220;What is so important about this event is that the course is not part of a niche Austrian program dependent on external funding, but is part of the regular curriculum of a mainstream program at a major research university. This is a clear signal that Austrian economics is beginning to be taken seriously by mainstream economists.&#8221;</p>
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