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Explore the Theory of the Completely Free Society

July 30, 2010 by

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Bruce Koerber July 30, 2010 at 11:05 pm

We can all benefit from a vision of classical liberalism societies of that future civilization so that we can find the best means to attain those ends.

jerome crumlish July 31, 2010 at 9:37 am

Our government is a voice of us: WE the people. Once Private interests take precedence over the people that is represented by OUR government then we are no longer free. OUR constitution, it’s first word, says it all. The word is we!! We live in a society where we CHOOSE a representative to be a member of OUR government. We face numerous situations where it’s goal is to achieve everything that is impossible to accomplish as individuals. Whether it is joining resources, building ideas or spreading risk( our conservatives do that part very well with business), all of this is allowed through the CONSENT of THE GOVERNED. All that we have done was possible through WE THE PEOPLE in the UNITED states. What ever we contribute as individuals is very insignificant but when it is multiplied by the number of all of us we achieve great things. The individual is great and I hold that sacred as well. However, when I the individual left to compete with heavily monied interests LIFE, LIBERTY and the pursuit of happiness will always go to the highest bidder. Welcome to the world of commercial tyranny a world where the “coercive force is a private monster. The objectivist libertarian philosophy works well when all parameters are perfectly set to one’s advantage otherwise it needs to be placed in the ” trash bin of history” after 29 years of horrible mistakes that started on 21 January 1981.

Eric M. Staib July 31, 2010 at 6:09 pm

“What ever we contribute as individuals is very insignificant but when it is multiplied by the number of all of us we achieve great things.”

LOL, sounds like somebody is trying to cover up for his failure to accomplish anything noteworthy!

Matthew Swaringen August 1, 2010 at 12:10 pm

“all of this is allowed through the CONSENT of THE GOVERNED”

I didn’t consent to having taxes stolen from me to pay for wars in Middle Eastern countries. I didn’t consent for this money to be used prosecuting old men who sell a product that they used because it benefited them just because government paid scientists think the product doesn’t work.

Who needs to worry about private monsters of coercive force when you have a perfect public monster of force? And who would say that heavily monied interests aren’t the ones who benefit from this system we have now? No one believes that politicians are pure incorruptible sorts. Even you know this is false. The incentives of the current system in fact ensure corruption. They ensure that the worst among us will seek power by being good liars and wafflers.

Ross July 31, 2010 at 10:47 am

jerome, the “we” were those who were land owners, not each and every human who called the states home. you may consider yourself represented by the ruling class, i do not. i was born and raised in michigan, however i have yet to be represented by anyone in government.

vc July 31, 2010 at 10:54 am

Now that is one hilarious piece of satire. Thanks for the laugh!

For a minute there I thought someone without of inkling of historical context was trying to intercalate some collectivist nonsense into a discussion of liberty.

Jim August 2, 2010 at 1:38 pm

Jerome- I’m pretty sure that the “commercial tyranny” of which you speak is a result of people buying products from manfacturers and it didnt require any coercion for them to do so. The idea that because others have more to peacefully trade they are controling you through coercion is one that is frankly not intelligent enough for this website.

Mit Ailbu August 24, 2010 at 10:16 pm

@Jerome – If you look at the Declaration of Independence, “united,” in the united States of America is not capitalized. It was not until the power mongers and usurpers who thrust the constitution on us, do we see “united” capitalized and treated as a title and not an adjective. The original tea partiers weren’t about replacing one form of totalitarian government with another. They declared their independence. Period. Thank goodnes people like Patrick Henry, et al were around, or we would be far worse off than we are today. I didn’t give my consent to the constitution and I stand by those who opposed it then. My constitution goes more like, “People own themselves and what they produce and what they might trade. Keep your grubby hands off!” My country is my homestead. The citizens are my family. We trade with whom we please. If someone invades my country, I will defend her to my death. I respect others right to their own personal country and I’m friendly to all, but have treaties with none. I don’t need your constitution to run my country. You leave me alone and I will leave you alone.

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