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	<title>Comments on: Did Rothbard &#8220;Borrow&#8221; the Income and Substitution Effects?</title>
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		<title>By: Michael A. Clem</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683643</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael A. Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 20:29:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;If disregard of the social contract is the norm&lt;/i&gt;

Simple statistical fallacy--How many people did you NOT write traffic tickets for (i.e. didn&#039;t break the law)?  Add in all those people, and then see if &quot;disregard of the social contract&quot; is the norm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If disregard of the social contract is the norm</i></p>
<p>Simple statistical fallacy&#8211;How many people did you NOT write traffic tickets for (i.e. didn&#8217;t break the law)?  Add in all those people, and then see if &#8220;disregard of the social contract&#8221; is the norm.</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683258</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also, people weigh the advantages of violating traffic laws (like speeding, running stop signs, etc.) with the perceived risk of getting caught. 

If I can save an hour on my weekly commute by speeding and I figure I will only have a 2% chance of getting caught and fined $100, the $2 per week average I spend on speeding tickets might be more than worth it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, people weigh the advantages of violating traffic laws (like speeding, running stop signs, etc.) with the perceived risk of getting caught. </p>
<p>If I can save an hour on my weekly commute by speeding and I figure I will only have a 2% chance of getting caught and fined $100, the $2 per week average I spend on speeding tickets might be more than worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683255</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks, Lucas!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Lucas!</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683254</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 01:04:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Del, yes, I am familiar with Rothbard&#039;s objections, but I didn&#039;t want to shift my focus in that direction. And, I agree that the question of appropriateness of different approaches is important. I think students should be introduced to these questions early on. I think honesty of the teachers about what is being taught is very important in building student interest in the subject. Unfortunately, we rarely see this happen.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Del, yes, I am familiar with Rothbard&#8217;s objections, but I didn&#8217;t want to shift my focus in that direction. And, I agree that the question of appropriateness of different approaches is important. I think students should be introduced to these questions early on. I think honesty of the teachers about what is being taught is very important in building student interest in the subject. Unfortunately, we rarely see this happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683252</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 00:59:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No, it&#039;s not confusing at all. I agree with you on that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, it&#8217;s not confusing at all. I agree with you on that.</p>
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		<title>By: Lucas M. Engelhardt</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683249</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucas M. Engelhardt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 23:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A nice piece.  I have a few quibbles, but definitely appreciate the general story.  This is definitely something that intermediate micro students should read.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A nice piece.  I have a few quibbles, but definitely appreciate the general story.  This is definitely something that intermediate micro students should read.</p>
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		<title>By: Angel Martin</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683242</link>
		<dc:creator>Angel Martin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Predrag,
Great article. I think the Austrian position is far more realistic than the neoclassical one. You say: &quot;The consumer, would, according to Rothbard&#039;s framework, rank his ends in the order of diminishing marginal importance or utility.&quot;
Yet, do humans in the real world really rank his ends in a value-scale like the one you have presented? Do those plans really exist in the minds of economic agents, or only as an abstraction, as plans that have been manifested through action? I think a level of abstraction is necessary in order to do economic theory, so maybe my question is answered by resorting to that. But realistically, I have some doubts that we humans can make such a thing as rank our ends in that precise way. There&#039;s the question of time. With the passage of time (which is a subjective concept: &quot;real time&quot; as expressed by Rizzo and others) that ranking will surely change; and can change very rapidly. Also, people usually doubt on which our ends are. We only manifest our preferences through action, which undoubtedly is guided by plans, preferences and so on; but that can be hardly known precisely even by the same agents. 

Well, hope not to have been too confusing here. (Please, have in mind I&#039;m a beginner in these issues). Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Predrag,<br />
Great article. I think the Austrian position is far more realistic than the neoclassical one. You say: &#8220;The consumer, would, according to Rothbard&#8217;s framework, rank his ends in the order of diminishing marginal importance or utility.&#8221;<br />
Yet, do humans in the real world really rank his ends in a value-scale like the one you have presented? Do those plans really exist in the minds of economic agents, or only as an abstraction, as plans that have been manifested through action? I think a level of abstraction is necessary in order to do economic theory, so maybe my question is answered by resorting to that. But realistically, I have some doubts that we humans can make such a thing as rank our ends in that precise way. There&#8217;s the question of time. With the passage of time (which is a subjective concept: &#8220;real time&#8221; as expressed by Rizzo and others) that ranking will surely change; and can change very rapidly. Also, people usually doubt on which our ends are. We only manifest our preferences through action, which undoubtedly is guided by plans, preferences and so on; but that can be hardly known precisely even by the same agents. </p>
<p>Well, hope not to have been too confusing here. (Please, have in mind I&#8217;m a beginner in these issues). Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Del Lindley</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683241</link>
		<dc:creator>Del Lindley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well done.

I realize that the scope of this piece is limited to showing that the substitution and income effects of a price change can be conceptualized through a discrete linear (i.e. one-dimensional) value scale as well as a continuous model that decomposes this value scale into indifference curves and budget constraints. By accepting the existence of continuous cardinal utility I would not be surprised if each approach were found to be mathematically equivalent, much the same as deciding whether to use rectilinear or spherical coordinates to determine a position in space.  Following the maxim that “a picture (or diagram) is worth a thousand words,” the economics of pedagogy would naturally favor the use of indifference curves in a graphical representation.

I am sure you know that Rothbard’s objection to the indifference curve description goes well beyond the “humans don’t decide that way” statement.  His first objection would be that value scales must be ordinal rather than cardinal. By itself this objection implies that an indifference-budget decomposition of the one’s value scale is impossible since the concept of “equal utility” could not exist. His second objection would be that humans value things only in discrete units of perceptible difference, and so even two supposed cardinal utility functions (and their associated indifference curve) would not possess continuous first derivatives. Hence the concept of “tangent to the indifference curve” would not have the intended meaning. The graphical representation merely provides the illusion that an optimal combination of goods is being found by mutual determination.

It should also be obvious that the apparent advantage of the graphical approach diminishes rapidly as the number of goods under consideration grows. For the general problem of N goods the indifference “curve” would become an N-dimensional hyper-surface, whereas the linear value scale approach can easily accommodate any number of goods.

The final pedagogical question becomes: does the limited advantage of displaying the substitution and income effects graphically outweigh the glossing over of the fundamental principles emphasized by the Austrian school?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done.</p>
<p>I realize that the scope of this piece is limited to showing that the substitution and income effects of a price change can be conceptualized through a discrete linear (i.e. one-dimensional) value scale as well as a continuous model that decomposes this value scale into indifference curves and budget constraints. By accepting the existence of continuous cardinal utility I would not be surprised if each approach were found to be mathematically equivalent, much the same as deciding whether to use rectilinear or spherical coordinates to determine a position in space.  Following the maxim that “a picture (or diagram) is worth a thousand words,” the economics of pedagogy would naturally favor the use of indifference curves in a graphical representation.</p>
<p>I am sure you know that Rothbard’s objection to the indifference curve description goes well beyond the “humans don’t decide that way” statement.  His first objection would be that value scales must be ordinal rather than cardinal. By itself this objection implies that an indifference-budget decomposition of the one’s value scale is impossible since the concept of “equal utility” could not exist. His second objection would be that humans value things only in discrete units of perceptible difference, and so even two supposed cardinal utility functions (and their associated indifference curve) would not possess continuous first derivatives. Hence the concept of “tangent to the indifference curve” would not have the intended meaning. The graphical representation merely provides the illusion that an optimal combination of goods is being found by mutual determination.</p>
<p>It should also be obvious that the apparent advantage of the graphical approach diminishes rapidly as the number of goods under consideration grows. For the general problem of N goods the indifference “curve” would become an N-dimensional hyper-surface, whereas the linear value scale approach can easily accommodate any number of goods.</p>
<p>The final pedagogical question becomes: does the limited advantage of displaying the substitution and income effects graphically outweigh the glossing over of the fundamental principles emphasized by the Austrian school?</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683236</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks; that&#039;s very nice to hear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks; that&#8217;s very nice to hear.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683235</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 22:07:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had my fair share of encounters with the traffic police. In retrospect, it was a fun experience. However, how much effort someone puts in weighing costs and benefits of an action is not really relevant for the purpose of the article.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had my fair share of encounters with the traffic police. In retrospect, it was a fun experience. However, how much effort someone puts in weighing costs and benefits of an action is not really relevant for the purpose of the article.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683224</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems that we are saying the same thing. My (not actually mine but Rothbard&#039;s) whole point is that a change in money prices changes the orderings in the value scale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems that we are saying the same thing. My (not actually mine but Rothbard&#8217;s) whole point is that a change in money prices changes the orderings in the value scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683223</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:09:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know why the script does not let me post &quot;Thanks!&quot;. It says I&#039;ve said it before (I guess it treats it as spam). 

Anyway - Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know why the script does not let me post &#8220;Thanks!&#8221;. It says I&#8217;ve said it before (I guess it treats it as spam). </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Finegold Catalán</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683222</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Finegold Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, that&#039;s my point.  The higher utility is that you get the same utility out of the orange + $1.  If price didn&#039;t matter then the demand curve would not be inversely related, it would be vertical.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, that&#8217;s my point.  The higher utility is that you get the same utility out of the orange + $1.  If price didn&#8217;t matter then the demand curve would not be inversely related, it would be vertical.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683220</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 20:03:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is not true in all cases. This is only true if the particular store the individual goes to sells only $2 oranges and the individual knows that another store sells the same orange at $1. Then, we are not talking about the utility of just the orange, but the utility of the orange weighed in with the attached cost of having to go to another store just to save a dollar. In other words, we are also talking about opportunity cost. But, if a $1 and a $2 orange were sold side by side, and both fulfilled the same utility, I’m sure most individuals would opt for the former, even if they could easily afford the latter.&quot;

That&#039;s fine; My claim was ceteris paribus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is not true in all cases. This is only true if the particular store the individual goes to sells only $2 oranges and the individual knows that another store sells the same orange at $1. Then, we are not talking about the utility of just the orange, but the utility of the orange weighed in with the attached cost of having to go to another store just to save a dollar. In other words, we are also talking about opportunity cost. But, if a $1 and a $2 orange were sold side by side, and both fulfilled the same utility, I’m sure most individuals would opt for the former, even if they could easily afford the latter.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s fine; My claim was ceteris paribus.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683219</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you opt for the former, then the former is better than the latter. If the former is better than the latter, you attached a higher importance or utility to the former.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you opt for the former, then the former is better than the latter. If the former is better than the latter, you attached a higher importance or utility to the former.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Finegold Catalán</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683218</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Finegold Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If the $1 and $30,000 orange both have the same utility then I think the individual would opt for the former, since the individual could then turn around and further satisfy his needs with the other $29,000 by some other means.

You write:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
I would say that individuals attach utility or importance to material objects rather than that the objects supply utility. Since the utility that individuals attach to things depends on the individual perception on how these things can be used to meet one’s ends, one will not attach the same utility to a $1 orange and a $2 orange.
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

This is not true in all cases.  This is only true if the particular store the individual goes to sells only $2 oranges and the individual knows that another store sells the same orange at $1.  Then, we are not talking about the utility of just the orange, but the utility of the orange weighed in with the attached cost of having to go to another store just to save a dollar.  In other words, we are also talking about opportunity cost.  But, if a $1 and a $2 orange were sold side by side, and both fulfilled the same utility, I&#039;m sure most individuals would opt for the former, even if they could easily afford the latter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the $1 and $30,000 orange both have the same utility then I think the individual would opt for the former, since the individual could then turn around and further satisfy his needs with the other $29,000 by some other means.</p>
<p>You write:</p>
<blockquote><p>
I would say that individuals attach utility or importance to material objects rather than that the objects supply utility. Since the utility that individuals attach to things depends on the individual perception on how these things can be used to meet one’s ends, one will not attach the same utility to a $1 orange and a $2 orange.
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<p>This is not true in all cases.  This is only true if the particular store the individual goes to sells only $2 oranges and the individual knows that another store sells the same orange at $1.  Then, we are not talking about the utility of just the orange, but the utility of the orange weighed in with the attached cost of having to go to another store just to save a dollar.  In other words, we are also talking about opportunity cost.  But, if a $1 and a $2 orange were sold side by side, and both fulfilled the same utility, I&#8217;m sure most individuals would opt for the former, even if they could easily afford the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
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		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 19:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say that individuals attach utility or importance to material objects rather than that the objects supply utility. Since the utility that individuals attach to things depends on the individual perception on how these things can be used to meet one’s ends, one will not attach the same utility to a $1 orange and a $2 orange. Importance that individuals put on objects does not depend only on the physical properties of those objects – it depends on all the relevant attributes of the object. One of those characteristics is how much money (and other things you might enjoy) needs to be given up to attain them.

What if the money price of oranges was $30,000 per orange instead of $1? Suppose you came to a store and found two physically identical (inside and outside, in all possible respects) oranges – one at $1 and the other at $30,000. Which orange would you use to meet your end – physical survival on a yearly income of, say, $30,000? If you attach the same utility to both, you would not care which one you pick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that individuals attach utility or importance to material objects rather than that the objects supply utility. Since the utility that individuals attach to things depends on the individual perception on how these things can be used to meet one’s ends, one will not attach the same utility to a $1 orange and a $2 orange. Importance that individuals put on objects does not depend only on the physical properties of those objects – it depends on all the relevant attributes of the object. One of those characteristics is how much money (and other things you might enjoy) needs to be given up to attain them.</p>
<p>What if the money price of oranges was $30,000 per orange instead of $1? Suppose you came to a store and found two physically identical (inside and outside, in all possible respects) oranges – one at $1 and the other at $30,000. Which orange would you use to meet your end – physical survival on a yearly income of, say, $30,000? If you attach the same utility to both, you would not care which one you pick.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Finegold Catalán</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683205</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan Finegold Catalán</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks!  Your graphics come out really clean.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!  Your graphics come out really clean.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683201</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is it your assumption that the &quot;social contract&quot; (laws) is rational?  Waiting at a stop sign at 2 a.m. with no other cars in sight, because it&#039;s the law, might seem irrational to some people.  Deciding to smoke pot, even though it&#039;s against the law, might seem completely rational to some.  From what I understand ratiocination is the logical mental process people go through to make a decision, not an arbitrary law someone dictates and tries enforce.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it your assumption that the &#8220;social contract&#8221; (laws) is rational?  Waiting at a stop sign at 2 a.m. with no other cars in sight, because it&#8217;s the law, might seem irrational to some people.  Deciding to smoke pot, even though it&#8217;s against the law, might seem completely rational to some.  From what I understand ratiocination is the logical mental process people go through to make a decision, not an arbitrary law someone dictates and tries enforce.</p>
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		<title>By: Predrag</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/12422/did-rothbard-borrow-the-income-and-substitution-effects/comment-page-1/#comment-683198</link>
		<dc:creator>Predrag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Apr 2010 18:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just use the &quot;insert shape&quot; option in Excel and then pick different shapes. First I adjust the size of the cells so that the width and height are equal - so that I can draw things in desired proportions. When it&#039;s all done, I put a white background, select and copy the graph into the &quot;Paint&quot; program in Windows XP, and, finally, save it as a JPG file.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just use the &#8220;insert shape&#8221; option in Excel and then pick different shapes. First I adjust the size of the cells so that the width and height are equal &#8211; so that I can draw things in desired proportions. When it&#8217;s all done, I put a white background, select and copy the graph into the &#8220;Paint&#8221; program in Windows XP, and, finally, save it as a JPG file.</p>
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