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		<title>By: Matt Spitsbergen</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-799209</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Spitsbergen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 22:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[LIS is a Social Security program that helps pay your Medicare Part D costs including premium and co-pays.  It costs nothing, and is income and asset based!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LIS is a Social Security program that helps pay your Medicare Part D costs including premium and co-pays.  It costs nothing, and is income and asset based!</p>
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		<title>By: Clark Smith</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-786576</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jun 2011 17:05:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I may suggest &lt;a href=&quot;http://affordablemedicareplan.com/humana-medicare-part-d-2011/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;b&gt;humana medicare part d&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/a&gt;, it helps pay your Medicare Part D plan costs. If you have a low income, few tangible resources and are Medicare eligible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may suggest <a href="http://affordablemedicareplan.com/humana-medicare-part-d-2011/" rel="nofollow"><b>humana medicare part d</b></a>, it helps pay your Medicare Part D plan costs. If you have a low income, few tangible resources and are Medicare eligible.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Department declares war on doctors &#171; BUNKERVILLE &#124; God, Guns and Guts Comrades!</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-703248</link>
		<dc:creator>Justice Department declares war on doctors &#171; BUNKERVILLE &#124; God, Guns and Guts Comrades!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 15:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] FTC has hinted at this when it’s said physicians must accept Medicare-based reimbursement schedules from insurance [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FTC has hinted at this when it’s said physicians must accept Medicare-based reimbursement schedules from insurance [...]</p>
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		<title>By: CCS</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-696066</link>
		<dc:creator>CCS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 04:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only option is to leave the country.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only option is to leave the country.</p>
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		<title>By: Justice Department declares war on doctors :</title>
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		<dc:creator>Justice Department declares war on doctors :</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 01:33:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] FTC has hinted at this when it’s said physicians must accept Medicare-based reimbursement schedules from insurance [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] FTC has hinted at this when it’s said physicians must accept Medicare-based reimbursement schedules from insurance [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Dr. Hans Conser DC</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-682494</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr. Hans Conser DC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Apr 2010 21:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The medical billing world gets stranger and stranger...  I predict more providers will stop offering billing services and just collect directly from the patient.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The medical billing world gets stranger and stranger&#8230;  I predict more providers will stop offering billing services and just collect directly from the patient.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-678658</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 18:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not sure, but I believe that Mass already requires acceptance of Medicare fees as condition of licensure. So, perhaps it took 45 years but the slide into single payer Government controlled practice is inexorable and nearly complete.The one thing they cannot do is throw 100,000 MDs in jail.  Perhaps unionization is a solution, but they would likely bust such a union as infringing on a necessary vital service a la PATCO.  We really do need good legal advice and some gonads for the next decade.  Failing that we will all end up as Federalized workers with little control over our lives or our practices.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure, but I believe that Mass already requires acceptance of Medicare fees as condition of licensure. So, perhaps it took 45 years but the slide into single payer Government controlled practice is inexorable and nearly complete.The one thing they cannot do is throw 100,000 MDs in jail.  Perhaps unionization is a solution, but they would likely bust such a union as infringing on a necessary vital service a la PATCO.  We really do need good legal advice and some gonads for the next decade.  Failing that we will all end up as Federalized workers with little control over our lives or our practices.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-668607</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To post a comment about the FTC ruling directly to the FTC --&gt; Surf to...
          https://public.commentworks.com/ftc/roaringforkconsent
 
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Here is the blurb from the FTC site...
 
The Commission vote to issue the administrative complaint and to place the consent order on the public record for comment and publish a copy in the Federal Register was 4-0. 
 
The Commission is accepting comments on the order for 30 days, until March 2, after which it will decide whether to make it final. 
 
Comments should be sent to: FTC Office of the Secretary, 600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., Washington, DC, 20580. 
 
Comments also can be submitted electronically at: 
 
     https://public.commentworks.com/ftc/roaringforkconsent
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To post a comment about the FTC ruling directly to the FTC &#8211;> Surf to&#8230;<br />
          <a href="https://public.commentworks.com/ftc/roaringforkconsent" rel="nofollow">https://public.commentworks.com/ftc/roaringforkconsent</a></p>
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Here is the blurb from the FTC site&#8230;</p>
<p>The Commission vote to issue the administrative complaint and to place the consent order on the public record for comment and publish a copy in the Federal Register was 4-0. </p>
<p>The Commission is accepting comments on the order for 30 days, until March 2, after which it will decide whether to make it final. </p>
<p>Comments should be sent to: FTC Office of the Secretary, 600 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W., Washington, DC, 20580. </p>
<p>Comments also can be submitted electronically at: </p>
<p>     <a href="https://public.commentworks.com/ftc/roaringforkconsent" rel="nofollow">https://public.commentworks.com/ftc/roaringforkconsent</a></p>
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		<title>By: OkieDoc</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-666479</link>
		<dc:creator>OkieDoc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 06:53:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Chuck B &quot;I just wonder what reimbursement rates would be if we got rid of ALL insurance...maybe 10-20% of what they are now. Don&#039;t get me wrong...y&#039;all have to make a living, but NO insurance are market rates!!!&quot;

Are you crazy?  I would bet that &quot;reimbursment rates&quot; would be much higher than 20%...plus, your expenses would plummet.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chuck B &#8220;I just wonder what reimbursement rates would be if we got rid of ALL insurance&#8230;maybe 10-20% of what they are now. Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230;y&#8217;all have to make a living, but NO insurance are market rates!!!&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you crazy?  I would bet that &#8220;reimbursment rates&#8221; would be much higher than 20%&#8230;plus, your expenses would plummet.  </p>
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		<title>By: Chuck B</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-665048</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 13:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just wonder what reimbursement rates would be if we got rid of ALL insurance...maybe 10-20% of what they are now.  Don&#039;t get me wrong...y&#039;all have to make a living, but NO insurance are market rates!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wonder what reimbursement rates would be if we got rid of ALL insurance&#8230;maybe 10-20% of what they are now.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong&#8230;y&#8217;all have to make a living, but NO insurance are market rates!!!</p>
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		<title>By: V. Birds</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-663906</link>
		<dc:creator>V. Birds</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 14:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have had a non insurance billing --cashonly- practice for 15 years.  We are very busy with patients who chose to pay their own way.   Occ. their insurance may reimburse them. We have no contracts with HMO, PPO,Medicare, MediCal or other such organizations.  We negotiate patient patients payments with other providers.  

We do not know when &quot;Big Brother&quot; of 1984 will attack us, but we labor on.  By the way, our collection ratio is over 98% if our charges.

All docs should become independent of power forces including the AMA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have had a non insurance billing &#8211;cashonly- practice for 15 years.  We are very busy with patients who chose to pay their own way.   Occ. their insurance may reimburse them. We have no contracts with HMO, PPO,Medicare, MediCal or other such organizations.  We negotiate patient patients payments with other providers.  </p>
<p>We do not know when &#8220;Big Brother&#8221; of 1984 will attack us, but we labor on.  By the way, our collection ratio is over 98% if our charges.</p>
<p>All docs should become independent of power forces including the AMA.</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Holden</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-663434</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Holden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 10:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;The problem is that this IPA failed to comply with the rules for a messenger-model IPA; they agreed as a group to set a minimum floor for commercial contracts.&quot;

Actually, if you read the FTC&#039;s statement more carefully, it is clear that this IPA refused to use the Medicare payment methodology, but didn&#039;t set any floor on the actual dollars to be paid.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem is that this IPA failed to comply with the rules for a messenger-model IPA; they agreed as a group to set a minimum floor for commercial contracts.&#8221;</p>
<p>Actually, if you read the FTC&#8217;s statement more carefully, it is clear that this IPA refused to use the Medicare payment methodology, but didn&#8217;t set any floor on the actual dollars to be paid.  </p>
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		<title>By: gebanks</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-663017</link>
		<dc:creator>gebanks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 12:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Medicare based rates doesn&#039;t mean the rates are less than those of Medicare, it just means they are a fraction of Medicare.  The fraction could be 2.0 and thus twice what Medicare pays.  They are right, though, that if they base rates on what Medicare pays, if Medicare gets cut, then they all get to cut.

We don&#039;t have Medicare based rates here, but the rates are based on the RVU, which is a relative value (of work) unit.  Medicare and Medicaid pay the lowest per RVU of anyone, but the insurance companies each have a rate per RVU not a fraction of what Medicare pays. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Medicare based rates doesn&#8217;t mean the rates are less than those of Medicare, it just means they are a fraction of Medicare.  The fraction could be 2.0 and thus twice what Medicare pays.  They are right, though, that if they base rates on what Medicare pays, if Medicare gets cut, then they all get to cut.</p>
<p>We don&#8217;t have Medicare based rates here, but the rates are based on the RVU, which is a relative value (of work) unit.  Medicare and Medicaid pay the lowest per RVU of anyone, but the insurance companies each have a rate per RVU not a fraction of what Medicare pays. </p>
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		<title>By: mwalter</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-663014</link>
		<dc:creator>mwalter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The anti-trust point is that the member physicians agreed to the IPA, in writing, not to negotiate individually with Medicare. They can agree to accept contracts through their IPA, but they have to still leave the door open for Medicare to try and contract with them as individual business entities, even if they never actually agree to or sign any of those individual contracts. If they had left that door open, they wouldn&#039;t be in violation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anti-trust point is that the member physicians agreed to the IPA, in writing, not to negotiate individually with Medicare. They can agree to accept contracts through their IPA, but they have to still leave the door open for Medicare to try and contract with them as individual business entities, even if they never actually agree to or sign any of those individual contracts. If they had left that door open, they wouldn&#8217;t be in violation. </p>
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		<title>By: J. K. Oates</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-662828</link>
		<dc:creator>J. K. Oates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 09:47:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I believe the actions of the FTC violate the word and spirit of the XIII amendment to the Constitution. The FTC has become the Master of Medicine and allows it&#039;s minions to dictate to a class of citizens what their labor is worth and what they may charge. It is not unreasonable to believe that if they get by with this methodology others will follow but wonder if the legal profession might be included. 
It further seems to me that this becomes a means to deny full access to care by citizens of this country. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe the actions of the FTC violate the word and spirit of the XIII amendment to the Constitution. The FTC has become the Master of Medicine and allows it&#8217;s minions to dictate to a class of citizens what their labor is worth and what they may charge. It is not unreasonable to believe that if they get by with this methodology others will follow but wonder if the legal profession might be included.<br />
It further seems to me that this becomes a means to deny full access to care by citizens of this country. </p>
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		<title>By: vineyarder</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-662735</link>
		<dc:creator>vineyarder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The big problem with this analysis is that Roaring Fork Valley Physicians is NOT a physician group practice, it is an IPA (Independant Practice Association); i.e. a collection of competing physicians.  Since they are competitors, not partners, it is illegal of them to jointly set minimum rates.  

The problem is that this IPA failed to comply with the rules for a messenger-model IPA; they agreed as a group to set a minimum floor for commercial contracts.  The fact that the minimum that they set was Medicare rates in simply coincidental; they could have just as easily (and just as illegally) picked a specific dollar amount.  The problem is that these were competing physicians, and they therefore cannot collectively agree on minimum rates that they will accept; in order to comply with the messenger model IPA regulations, they must each independently set their own rates and the IPA must not facilitate sharing of fee information among members of the IPA.  

There is nothing in the ruling that prevents any individual physician, or any physician group practice, from refusing to accept Medicare rates from any commercial insurer; it simply enforces the laws that prevent competitors from working together to set prices.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The big problem with this analysis is that Roaring Fork Valley Physicians is NOT a physician group practice, it is an IPA (Independant Practice Association); i.e. a collection of competing physicians.  Since they are competitors, not partners, it is illegal of them to jointly set minimum rates.  </p>
<p>The problem is that this IPA failed to comply with the rules for a messenger-model IPA; they agreed as a group to set a minimum floor for commercial contracts.  The fact that the minimum that they set was Medicare rates in simply coincidental; they could have just as easily (and just as illegally) picked a specific dollar amount.  The problem is that these were competing physicians, and they therefore cannot collectively agree on minimum rates that they will accept; in order to comply with the messenger model IPA regulations, they must each independently set their own rates and the IPA must not facilitate sharing of fee information among members of the IPA.  </p>
<p>There is nothing in the ruling that prevents any individual physician, or any physician group practice, from refusing to accept Medicare rates from any commercial insurer; it simply enforces the laws that prevent competitors from working together to set prices.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny on the Spot</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-662729</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny on the Spot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Collectively refusing to deal with certain customers or vendors is anti-competitive behavior. So the FTC, has a leg to stand on there. 

However, this group of physicians should point to the fact that the test of the legality of what they are doing is: does it promote or suppress competition?
(Chicago board of trade vs US 246 U.S. 231)

I believe they are promoting competition in the medical market.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Collectively refusing to deal with certain customers or vendors is anti-competitive behavior. So the FTC, has a leg to stand on there. </p>
<p>However, this group of physicians should point to the fact that the test of the legality of what they are doing is: does it promote or suppress competition?<br />
(Chicago board of trade vs US 246 U.S. 231)</p>
<p>I believe they are promoting competition in the medical market.</p>
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		<title>By: Iatros</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-662716</link>
		<dc:creator>Iatros</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 03:30:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well it took 25 years longer, but &#039;1984&#039; is now here.  If this is not Big Brother using Doublespeak, I don&#039;t know what is!

But wait, there&#039;s more!  If a physician cannot refuse to sign Medicare contracts, how long before he cannot refuse to accept Medicare patients?  How long next before he will be assigned hours and workplace locations?  How long next until the young physician will be assigned specialties, with subspecialty slots severely limited and tightly controlled.

But wait, there&#039;s more!  When Medicare/Medicaid finally becomes unsustainable, when medical care is universal but physicians are in short supply, the political pressures will be enormous to make physicians &#039;wards of the state&#039;.  At that point (soon, perhaps 15 years into boomer retirement), we will become captive prisoners of the state!

Hoo boy, am I glad to be one of the boomers set to retire, and leave the house of medicine.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well it took 25 years longer, but &#8217;1984&#8242; is now here.  If this is not Big Brother using Doublespeak, I don&#8217;t know what is!</p>
<p>But wait, there&#8217;s more!  If a physician cannot refuse to sign Medicare contracts, how long before he cannot refuse to accept Medicare patients?  How long next before he will be assigned hours and workplace locations?  How long next until the young physician will be assigned specialties, with subspecialty slots severely limited and tightly controlled.</p>
<p>But wait, there&#8217;s more!  When Medicare/Medicaid finally becomes unsustainable, when medical care is universal but physicians are in short supply, the political pressures will be enormous to make physicians &#8216;wards of the state&#8217;.  At that point (soon, perhaps 15 years into boomer retirement), we will become captive prisoners of the state!</p>
<p>Hoo boy, am I glad to be one of the boomers set to retire, and leave the house of medicine.</p>
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		<title>By: nemo</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-662707</link>
		<dc:creator>nemo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Only option left, unfortunately, is to become a union.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only option left, unfortunately, is to become a union.</p>
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		<title>By: vikingvista</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11598/refusal-to-price-fix-price-fixing/comment-page-1/#comment-662437</link>
		<dc:creator>vikingvista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 12:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Medicare disaster had one release valve--people could choose not to use it, even if they could not choose to not pay for it.  Increasingly, providers are making that choice.  Now we see the beginnings of the state closing that valve.  

Don&#039;t want to provide government care?  Better get your self a good lawyer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Medicare disaster had one release valve&#8211;people could choose not to use it, even if they could not choose to not pay for it.  Increasingly, providers are making that choice.  Now we see the beginnings of the state closing that valve.  </p>
<p>Don&#8217;t want to provide government care?  Better get your self a good lawyer.</p>
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