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		<title>By: Australia Ugg Boots</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-722270</link>
		<dc:creator>Australia Ugg Boots</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Sep 2010 09:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Apple, of course, doesn’t comment on “rumors and speculation.” But according to Chen, the new iPhone will go into production in April and should be available to consumers in June or July — just enough time for the rumor train to go into full speed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple, of course, doesn’t comment on “rumors and speculation.” But according to Chen, the new iPhone will go into production in April and should be available to consumers in June or July — just enough time for the rumor train to go into full speed.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-684340</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 17:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought an original Mac 128 and printer for about $2500 after student discount when they first came out. It was a great system that really was years ahead of IBM. Unfortunately, it was a very closed system. A new user like myself couldn&#039;t easily create programs for it. Their initial advantage was squandered over the next several years, mainly due to the fact that Apple and third-party software was very thin, which IMO was a result of the barriers to entry Apple erected in the name of controlling user-experience, ironically keeping &#039;the masses&#039; out of development. There was a distinct dissonance between the famous 1984 commercial, and the reality of being a Mac user. That was the last Mac I ever owned. Later, Apple did learn to open up more, making any barriers to entry much, much lower, but you can still see this control in the current iPhone. It IS a tradeoff. Do you keep as many buggy apps out of the Store as possible, creating up to a 2 or 3 week lead-times between every update, vs the Android Market experience of often seeing a program update appear on the Market the same day a bug is reported? 

Like any monopoly, or emerging monopoly, can Apple&#039;s &#039;monopoly&#039; be maintained in the face of a distributed, open system that encourages development, offering the system itself, and the tools to develop on it for free? Much is made of &#039;fragmentation&#039;:  The monolith of MacOS on Mac Hardware vs the varieties of PC competitors, and the (increasingly fragmenting) monolith of the iPhone OS and hardware vs the exploding variety of Android devices. The prevailing opinion is that a monolith has advantages that outnumber the disadvantages, but I think they tend to resemble the advantages/vulnerabilities of a monopoly. The competing non-monolithic systems are more open and can be quicker to innovate on both the hardware and software side. Thus we see the Android OS, Market, and devices beginning to surpass what Apple is providing. The advantages the iPhone held, with the exception of the number of apps in their Store, has melted away in the past few months. The iPad never held these advantages, with the exception of the Store. There were already tablets and similar devices that exceeded the specs of the iPad selling for less money prior to the release of the iPad. Additionally, there are other tablets and iPad competitors nearing release. Android-based tablets are poised to deliver the exact same experiences the iPad offers for much less money. BTW, you can buy a non-3G iPad and a Sprint 3G/4G 5-device wifi hotspot (the Overdrive) for $99, getting faster, unlimited internet in 4G areas than you can get with the 3G iPad, all for less money. There&#039;s almost no reason at all to buy a 3G enabled iPad. Of course, that means any tablet with wifi can easily be on the same &#039;internet&#039; footing as an iPad with 3G, if not better footing given the Sprint 4G speeds.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an original Mac 128 and printer for about $2500 after student discount when they first came out. It was a great system that really was years ahead of IBM. Unfortunately, it was a very closed system. A new user like myself couldn&#8217;t easily create programs for it. Their initial advantage was squandered over the next several years, mainly due to the fact that Apple and third-party software was very thin, which IMO was a result of the barriers to entry Apple erected in the name of controlling user-experience, ironically keeping &#8216;the masses&#8217; out of development. There was a distinct dissonance between the famous 1984 commercial, and the reality of being a Mac user. That was the last Mac I ever owned. Later, Apple did learn to open up more, making any barriers to entry much, much lower, but you can still see this control in the current iPhone. It IS a tradeoff. Do you keep as many buggy apps out of the Store as possible, creating up to a 2 or 3 week lead-times between every update, vs the Android Market experience of often seeing a program update appear on the Market the same day a bug is reported? </p>
<p>Like any monopoly, or emerging monopoly, can Apple&#8217;s &#8216;monopoly&#8217; be maintained in the face of a distributed, open system that encourages development, offering the system itself, and the tools to develop on it for free? Much is made of &#8216;fragmentation&#8217;:  The monolith of MacOS on Mac Hardware vs the varieties of PC competitors, and the (increasingly fragmenting) monolith of the iPhone OS and hardware vs the exploding variety of Android devices. The prevailing opinion is that a monolith has advantages that outnumber the disadvantages, but I think they tend to resemble the advantages/vulnerabilities of a monopoly. The competing non-monolithic systems are more open and can be quicker to innovate on both the hardware and software side. Thus we see the Android OS, Market, and devices beginning to surpass what Apple is providing. The advantages the iPhone held, with the exception of the number of apps in their Store, has melted away in the past few months. The iPad never held these advantages, with the exception of the Store. There were already tablets and similar devices that exceeded the specs of the iPad selling for less money prior to the release of the iPad. Additionally, there are other tablets and iPad competitors nearing release. Android-based tablets are poised to deliver the exact same experiences the iPad offers for much less money. BTW, you can buy a non-3G iPad and a Sprint 3G/4G 5-device wifi hotspot (the Overdrive) for $99, getting faster, unlimited internet in 4G areas than you can get with the 3G iPad, all for less money. There&#8217;s almost no reason at all to buy a 3G enabled iPad. Of course, that means any tablet with wifi can easily be on the same &#8216;internet&#8217; footing as an iPad with 3G, if not better footing given the Sprint 4G speeds.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-684339</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:50:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I bought an original Mac 128 and printer for about $2500 after student discount when they first came out. It was a great system that really was years ahead of IBM. Unfortunately, it was a very closed system. A new user like myself couldn&#039;t easily create programs for it. Their initial advantage was squandered over the next several years, mainly due to the fact that Apple and third-party software was very thin, which IMO was a result of the barriers to entry Apple erected in the name of controlling user-experience, ironically keeping &#039;the masses&#039; out of development. There was a distinct dissonance between the famous 1984 commercial, and the reality of being a Mac user. That was the last Mac I ever owned. Later, Apple did learn to open up more, making any barriers to entry much, much lower, but you can still see this control in the current iPhone. It IS a tradeoff. Do you keep as many buggy apps out of the Store as possible, creating up to a 2 or 3 week lead-times between every update, vs the Android Market experience of often seeing a program update appear on the Market the same day a bug is reported? 

Like any monopoly, or emerging monopoly, can it be maintained in the face of a distributed, open system that encourages development, offering the system itself, and the tools to develop for free? Much is made of &#039;fragmentation&#039;:  The monolith of MacOS on Mac Hardware vs the varieties of PC competitors, and the (increasingly fragmenting) monolith of the iPhone OS and hardware vs the exploding variety of Android devices. The prevailing opinion is that a monolith has advantages that outnumber the disadvantages, but I think they tend to resemble the advantages/vulnerabilities of a monopoly. The competing non-monolithic systems are more open and can be quicker to innovate on both the hardware and software side. Thus we see the Android OS, Market, and devices beginning to surpass what Apple is providing. The advantages the iPhone held, with the exception of the number of apps in their Store, has melted away in the past few months. The iPad never held these advantages, with the exception of the Store. There were already tablets and similar devices that exceeded the specs of the iPad selling for less money prior to the release of the iPad. Additionally, there are other tablets and iPad competitors nearing release. Android-based tablets are poised to deliver the exact same experiences the iPad offers for much less money. (BTW, you can buy a non-3G iPad and a Sprint 3G/4G wifi hotspot device, getting faster internet in 4G areas than you can get with the 3G iPad for less money! It is a]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bought an original Mac 128 and printer for about $2500 after student discount when they first came out. It was a great system that really was years ahead of IBM. Unfortunately, it was a very closed system. A new user like myself couldn&#8217;t easily create programs for it. Their initial advantage was squandered over the next several years, mainly due to the fact that Apple and third-party software was very thin, which IMO was a result of the barriers to entry Apple erected in the name of controlling user-experience, ironically keeping &#8216;the masses&#8217; out of development. There was a distinct dissonance between the famous 1984 commercial, and the reality of being a Mac user. That was the last Mac I ever owned. Later, Apple did learn to open up more, making any barriers to entry much, much lower, but you can still see this control in the current iPhone. It IS a tradeoff. Do you keep as many buggy apps out of the Store as possible, creating up to a 2 or 3 week lead-times between every update, vs the Android Market experience of often seeing a program update appear on the Market the same day a bug is reported? </p>
<p>Like any monopoly, or emerging monopoly, can it be maintained in the face of a distributed, open system that encourages development, offering the system itself, and the tools to develop for free? Much is made of &#8216;fragmentation&#8217;:  The monolith of MacOS on Mac Hardware vs the varieties of PC competitors, and the (increasingly fragmenting) monolith of the iPhone OS and hardware vs the exploding variety of Android devices. The prevailing opinion is that a monolith has advantages that outnumber the disadvantages, but I think they tend to resemble the advantages/vulnerabilities of a monopoly. The competing non-monolithic systems are more open and can be quicker to innovate on both the hardware and software side. Thus we see the Android OS, Market, and devices beginning to surpass what Apple is providing. The advantages the iPhone held, with the exception of the number of apps in their Store, has melted away in the past few months. The iPad never held these advantages, with the exception of the Store. There were already tablets and similar devices that exceeded the specs of the iPad selling for less money prior to the release of the iPad. Additionally, there are other tablets and iPad competitors nearing release. Android-based tablets are poised to deliver the exact same experiences the iPad offers for much less money. (BTW, you can buy a non-3G iPad and a Sprint 3G/4G wifi hotspot device, getting faster internet in 4G areas than you can get with the 3G iPad for less money! It is a</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-684263</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:50:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had an ATT phone prior to getting the DROID on Verizon. My experience is just the opposite. It&#039;s fast, slick, and does everything I see my iPhone acquantances doing, and it has fast 3G that covers far more areas than ATT. My iPhone buddies tend to turn green around the gills a bit when they play with my Droid. With the recent upgrade to Android 2.1 (the latest version out), my Droid has a very similar experience to what is advertized for the iPad (pinch-zoom, animated gallery, book-reader, mp3-player, vid player, games, etc.), minus a video store. And Amazon is coming out with both a Kindle and an Amazon Video app for Android. (They already have a DRM-free MP3 download app that I use a lot.) Granted, the Droid is smaller than an iPad, but between my Droid and my laptop, I would have to be a true apple fanatic to spend $500 on an iPad. To say the iPhone is FIVE years ahead of everyone else is just blatant apple fanaticism. IMO, the Droid/Android 2.1 is easily ahead of the current iPhone in general, though you could certainly find positive points in iPhone&#039;s favor. You might be surprised to know that a survey in March by ChangeWave Research found that respondents chose the Android OS over iPhone for their next future smart-phone purchase, 30% vs 29%. Another survey of developers found that 87% were &#039;very interested&#039; in iPhone dev, up from 86% the previous quarter, but the same survey saw Android rise from 68% to 81% as devs see the Android market growing. That says a lot of apps will be targeted at both platforms. AdMob has also tracked mobile OS traffic over the last year, with iPhone actually dropping in the last few months and Android rising to a near dead heat. The Droid beat out the iPhone in sales over the first 74 days of each phone. FIVE years behind? Really? Check out the new HTC Droid Incredible that is about to release on Verizon. Its essentially the Nexus One with new 8MP camera. 

I&#039;m not an Android fanatic. I&#039;d go back to a WinMo phone if they get their act together and make a better phone than the competition. I&#039;m more familiar with .NET programming than I am C++/Android Java, so I&#039;d rather develop for WinMo phones as well. But right now, the Droid simply is the best phone for me. Due to ATT coverage, the iPhone wasn&#039;t an option. I almost didn&#039;t buy the Droid due to iPhone fanatics trashing the Droid in YouTube reviews, but somehow the reviews didn&#039;t match the in-store experiences I had, and now I&#039;m extremely glad I bought it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had an ATT phone prior to getting the DROID on Verizon. My experience is just the opposite. It&#8217;s fast, slick, and does everything I see my iPhone acquantances doing, and it has fast 3G that covers far more areas than ATT. My iPhone buddies tend to turn green around the gills a bit when they play with my Droid. With the recent upgrade to Android 2.1 (the latest version out), my Droid has a very similar experience to what is advertized for the iPad (pinch-zoom, animated gallery, book-reader, mp3-player, vid player, games, etc.), minus a video store. And Amazon is coming out with both a Kindle and an Amazon Video app for Android. (They already have a DRM-free MP3 download app that I use a lot.) Granted, the Droid is smaller than an iPad, but between my Droid and my laptop, I would have to be a true apple fanatic to spend $500 on an iPad. To say the iPhone is FIVE years ahead of everyone else is just blatant apple fanaticism. IMO, the Droid/Android 2.1 is easily ahead of the current iPhone in general, though you could certainly find positive points in iPhone&#8217;s favor. You might be surprised to know that a survey in March by ChangeWave Research found that respondents chose the Android OS over iPhone for their next future smart-phone purchase, 30% vs 29%. Another survey of developers found that 87% were &#8216;very interested&#8217; in iPhone dev, up from 86% the previous quarter, but the same survey saw Android rise from 68% to 81% as devs see the Android market growing. That says a lot of apps will be targeted at both platforms. AdMob has also tracked mobile OS traffic over the last year, with iPhone actually dropping in the last few months and Android rising to a near dead heat. The Droid beat out the iPhone in sales over the first 74 days of each phone. FIVE years behind? Really? Check out the new HTC Droid Incredible that is about to release on Verizon. Its essentially the Nexus One with new 8MP camera. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an Android fanatic. I&#8217;d go back to a WinMo phone if they get their act together and make a better phone than the competition. I&#8217;m more familiar with .NET programming than I am C++/Android Java, so I&#8217;d rather develop for WinMo phones as well. But right now, the Droid simply is the best phone for me. Due to ATT coverage, the iPhone wasn&#8217;t an option. I almost didn&#8217;t buy the Droid due to iPhone fanatics trashing the Droid in YouTube reviews, but somehow the reviews didn&#8217;t match the in-store experiences I had, and now I&#8217;m extremely glad I bought it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaycephus</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-684244</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaycephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 17:05:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The US PO granted a patent to TRW for the resistor-capacitor circuit. (Yes, a resitor and capacitor in series.) They also granted a noted patent-abuser (now dead but survived by a corporation whose only purpose is to collect fees for the use of his so-called &#039;IP&#039;) a patent for the use of an utterly undefined &#039;camera system&#039; on a factory production line for broad, undefined purposes. This patent was successfully used to collect licensing fees from all producers of industrial bar-code &amp; 2D code readers and machine vision system manufacturers. The largest machine vision maker stood up to this company and fought this patent over the course of about a decade, finally succeeding in getting this instance of patent-abuse ended. 

The truth is that you can patent just about anything that is &#039;unique&#039;. Apple just got the patent on the &#039;design&#039; of the iPhone. (I thought Dial had that design sewn up long ago.)  It appears that every aspect of these devices must be patented, not just to create a &#039;monopoly&#039; on the design, UI, etc., but also to defend oneself from companies like Apple. If you create a panoramic UI for a phone, you better patent it. Oops, too late. MS just patented that. But they have to, or then Apple will add that to their iPhone OS, patent it, and sue you. So now companies have to engage in defensive patenting. LIke TRW&#039;s R-C circuit patent, MS may never sue anyone for &#039;infringing&#039; on their panoramic UI patent. But now it is a weapon they can use against enemies like Apple who may attempt to sue because, for example, the Zune does something the iPod already does. Then MS lawyers can counter-sue on some other patent they own, and finally licensing rights are quietly exchanged to end the battle. One thing these examples have in common is that the &#039;innovations&#039; in question were not first created by the respective companies. They were only the first to apply to the US PO. So is there anything about patents as currently implemented that are compatible with Free-Market Enterprise?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The US PO granted a patent to TRW for the resistor-capacitor circuit. (Yes, a resitor and capacitor in series.) They also granted a noted patent-abuser (now dead but survived by a corporation whose only purpose is to collect fees for the use of his so-called &#8216;IP&#8217;) a patent for the use of an utterly undefined &#8216;camera system&#8217; on a factory production line for broad, undefined purposes. This patent was successfully used to collect licensing fees from all producers of industrial bar-code &amp; 2D code readers and machine vision system manufacturers. The largest machine vision maker stood up to this company and fought this patent over the course of about a decade, finally succeeding in getting this instance of patent-abuse ended. </p>
<p>The truth is that you can patent just about anything that is &#8216;unique&#8217;. Apple just got the patent on the &#8216;design&#8217; of the iPhone. (I thought Dial had that design sewn up long ago.)  It appears that every aspect of these devices must be patented, not just to create a &#8216;monopoly&#8217; on the design, UI, etc., but also to defend oneself from companies like Apple. If you create a panoramic UI for a phone, you better patent it. Oops, too late. MS just patented that. But they have to, or then Apple will add that to their iPhone OS, patent it, and sue you. So now companies have to engage in defensive patenting. LIke TRW&#8217;s R-C circuit patent, MS may never sue anyone for &#8216;infringing&#8217; on their panoramic UI patent. But now it is a weapon they can use against enemies like Apple who may attempt to sue because, for example, the Zune does something the iPod already does. Then MS lawyers can counter-sue on some other patent they own, and finally licensing rights are quietly exchanged to end the battle. One thing these examples have in common is that the &#8216;innovations&#8217; in question were not first created by the respective companies. They were only the first to apply to the US PO. So is there anything about patents as currently implemented that are compatible with Free-Market Enterprise?</p>
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		<title>By: Apple’s suit against HTC pits patents against innovation &#124; Austrian Economics Blog</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-678160</link>
		<dc:creator>Apple’s suit against HTC pits patents against innovation &#124; Austrian Economics Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 06:01:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Adolph Cervantes</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-663900</link>
		<dc:creator>Adolph Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 13:36:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have an Android with Verizon, and it is not all that. Apps are terrible, to many force closes, very slow. It is just not the same as an iPhone. The iPhone is still 5 years ahead of every one else. Verizon service is getting slower and slower and customer service sucks. We need a carrier that will step up and provide the service. The iPhone is the best hands down.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have an Android with Verizon, and it is not all that. Apps are terrible, to many force closes, very slow. It is just not the same as an iPhone. The iPhone is still 5 years ahead of every one else. Verizon service is getting slower and slower and customer service sucks. We need a carrier that will step up and provide the service. The iPhone is the best hands down.</p>
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		<title>By: Kerem Tibuk</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658946</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerem Tibuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 20:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I&#039;m familiar with Rand&#039;s position on IP. I did not comment on that. It was not my intent, in writing my response, to make consideration of the original intent of the author, but rather to analyse what w
e can know of Gult&#039;s Gulch from a purely literalist perspective. Rand makes no mention whatsoever, if I recall correctly, of IP being enforced in Gult&#039;s Gulch. One can debate whether it&#039;s good or whether it&#039;s bad that she makes no mention of this, but it&#039;s not my intent currently to engage in such a discussion.&quot;

Enforcement of a right is not a primary aspect of that right.  Many people confuse this regarding rights.

If everyone behaved ethically there would be no need for enforcement and the lack of enforcement wouldn&#039;t mean there were no rights.  I don&#039;t remember enforcement of any tangible property rights in Galt&#039;s Gulch either.  Does this mean Galts Gulch was a communist utopia?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m familiar with Rand&#8217;s position on IP. I did not comment on that. It was not my intent, in writing my response, to make consideration of the original intent of the author, but rather to analyse what w<br />
e can know of Gult&#8217;s Gulch from a purely literalist perspective. Rand makes no mention whatsoever, if I recall correctly, of IP being enforced in Gult&#8217;s Gulch. One can debate whether it&#8217;s good or whether it&#8217;s bad that she makes no mention of this, but it&#8217;s not my intent currently to engage in such a discussion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Enforcement of a right is not a primary aspect of that right.  Many people confuse this regarding rights.</p>
<p>If everyone behaved ethically there would be no need for enforcement and the lack of enforcement wouldn&#8217;t mean there were no rights.  I don&#8217;t remember enforcement of any tangible property rights in Galt&#8217;s Gulch either.  Does this mean Galts Gulch was a communist utopia?</p>
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		<title>By: Ohhh Henry</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658811</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohhh Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m familiar with iPod Touches because my kids have them.  While they are very nice gadgets, they have a couple of very irritating features.  The first is their attachment to iTunes, the second is the lack of support for various movie formats.  Both of these appear to exist because of Apple&#039;s attachment to &quot;intellectual property&quot;, meaning they try to force you to pay for expensive, legally-licensed content instead of free, shared content.

To modify your iPod or iPhone to be more flexible and useful is called &quot;jailbreaking&quot; by the people who do it.  How appropriate.

I&#039;m told that in China (where else) there are iPod Touch imitation products which function similarly but which are far more open to loading and sharing content.  I assume that very few people in China feel the need to pay Apple $1 for every song and $20 for every movie (or whatever iTunes charges).  The way that foreigners describe it to me, the USA is in danger of becoming a technological backwater because of this commitment to abstract and unenforceable &quot;property&quot; law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m familiar with iPod Touches because my kids have them.  While they are very nice gadgets, they have a couple of very irritating features.  The first is their attachment to iTunes, the second is the lack of support for various movie formats.  Both of these appear to exist because of Apple&#8217;s attachment to &#8220;intellectual property&#8221;, meaning they try to force you to pay for expensive, legally-licensed content instead of free, shared content.</p>
<p>To modify your iPod or iPhone to be more flexible and useful is called &#8220;jailbreaking&#8221; by the people who do it.  How appropriate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m told that in China (where else) there are iPod Touch imitation products which function similarly but which are far more open to loading and sharing content.  I assume that very few people in China feel the need to pay Apple $1 for every song and $20 for every movie (or whatever iTunes charges).  The way that foreigners describe it to me, the USA is in danger of becoming a technological backwater because of this commitment to abstract and unenforceable &#8220;property&#8221; law.</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander S. Peak</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658804</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander S. Peak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:37:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr Hubbard writes, &quot;Well, Galt&#039;s Gulch was envisaged and written by the woman who said...&quot;

I&#039;m familiar with Rand&#039;s position on IP.  I did not comment on that.  It was not my intent, in writing my response, to make consideration of the original intent of the author, but rather to analyse what we can know of Gult&#039;s Gulch from a purely literalist perspective.  Rand makes no mention whatsoever, if I recall correctly, of IP being enforced in Gult&#039;s Gulch.  One can debate whether it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;good&lt;/i&gt; or whether it&#039;s &lt;i&gt;bad&lt;/i&gt; that she makes no mention of this, but it&#039;s not my intent currently to engage in such a discussion.

I do not know what you mean by your claim that anarchists are trying to rewrite &lt;i&gt;Atlas&lt;/i&gt;.  The only mention of anyone rewriting it that I know anything about is the attempts of various people to write it into a movie script.  Last I heard, attempts to turn the book into a movie have been suspended again.

Sincerely,
Alex Peak]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr Hubbard writes, &#8220;Well, Galt&#8217;s Gulch was envisaged and written by the woman who said&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m familiar with Rand&#8217;s position on IP.  I did not comment on that.  It was not my intent, in writing my response, to make consideration of the original intent of the author, but rather to analyse what we can know of Gult&#8217;s Gulch from a purely literalist perspective.  Rand makes no mention whatsoever, if I recall correctly, of IP being enforced in Gult&#8217;s Gulch.  One can debate whether it&#8217;s <i>good</i> or whether it&#8217;s <i>bad</i> that she makes no mention of this, but it&#8217;s not my intent currently to engage in such a discussion.</p>
<p>I do not know what you mean by your claim that anarchists are trying to rewrite <i>Atlas</i>.  The only mention of anyone rewriting it that I know anything about is the attempts of various people to write it into a movie script.  Last I heard, attempts to turn the book into a movie have been suspended again.</p>
<p>Sincerely,<br />
Alex Peak</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658730</link>
		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:04:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Come on Russ, that&#039;s a stretch, even for you. There was nothing remotely religious about Quisling or why he is despised. He probably just thought he was being utilitarian. I was also making a reference back to your old hyperbole about me calling you a Nazi. I said you&#039;re no Nazi, just a tiny little quisling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Come on Russ, that&#8217;s a stretch, even for you. There was nothing remotely religious about Quisling or why he is despised. He probably just thought he was being utilitarian. I was also making a reference back to your old hyperbole about me calling you a Nazi. I said you&#8217;re no Nazi, just a tiny little quisling.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658727</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Quisling?!  Yeah, a religious fanatic hates nothing more than an apostate, huh?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quisling?!  Yeah, a religious fanatic hates nothing more than an apostate, huh?</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658722</link>
		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:36:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t think that you really know me well enough to psycho-analyze me, Russ. 

This &quot;puritanism&quot; line of yours is typical of you public atheists as well. Totally fabricated to fit your bias. How about you give that a rest, too? 

There&#039;s only a handful of &quot;heresies&quot;, and you know them. Don&#039;t steal, assault or murder. And there&#039;s nothing to laugh about regarding what your big brother in D.C. has done since all you poor little sheep got so rattled by 9/11. That&#039;s always the only subject with us, because you should know better, quisling.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think that you really know me well enough to psycho-analyze me, Russ. </p>
<p>This &#8220;puritanism&#8221; line of yours is typical of you public atheists as well. Totally fabricated to fit your bias. How about you give that a rest, too? </p>
<p>There&#8217;s only a handful of &#8220;heresies&#8221;, and you know them. Don&#8217;t steal, assault or murder. And there&#8217;s nothing to laugh about regarding what your big brother in D.C. has done since all you poor little sheep got so rattled by 9/11. That&#8217;s always the only subject with us, because you should know better, quisling.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658719</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Scoot D,

I have to side with Silas on this one.  The whole argument is:  Should IP be considered property?  Only after we have determined what should be considered property should we &quot;let the market decide&quot;.  When SK, in answer to Silas&#039; question, says that we should just let the market figure it out, that raises the question:  *which* market?  The market with IP, or the market without?  SK assumes the market without IP, which implicitly assume that IP should not be considered property.  This may not be a circular argument, strictly speaking, but it is at least a form of the begging the question fallacy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scoot D,</p>
<p>I have to side with Silas on this one.  The whole argument is:  Should IP be considered property?  Only after we have determined what should be considered property should we &#8220;let the market decide&#8221;.  When SK, in answer to Silas&#8217; question, says that we should just let the market figure it out, that raises the question:  *which* market?  The market with IP, or the market without?  SK assumes the market without IP, which implicitly assume that IP should not be considered property.  This may not be a circular argument, strictly speaking, but it is at least a form of the begging the question fallacy.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658718</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mpolzkill wrote:

&quot;That is a frivolous, fundamentally wrong-headed word to use, Russ. It&#039;s no wonder you turned back to statism.&quot;

You need to grow a sense of humor.  This is the kind of anarcho-puritanism I expect from you, though.  It seems your only source of joy is rooting out heresies.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mpolzkill wrote:</p>
<p>&#8220;That is a frivolous, fundamentally wrong-headed word to use, Russ. It&#8217;s no wonder you turned back to statism.&#8221;</p>
<p>You need to grow a sense of humor.  This is the kind of anarcho-puritanism I expect from you, though.  It seems your only source of joy is rooting out heresies.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott D</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658716</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 10:13:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;That&#039;s not incredibly insightful, nor is it good economics. What is the &quot;right&quot; length for stage 1? How do you know? Well, you know based on what the market does, *given* a set of property rights. But which property rights should exist is the very question to begin with! Do you not see the circularity?&quot;

If the &quot;property right&quot; is unjust, then it is no right at all. It is a state-granted privilege. And, just like mercantilism, we can see the effects of IP, who benefits and who is harmed, in its market distortions. I see no circularity.

Magnus is right though. I won&#039;t bother checking back here, knowing the insulting comments I&#039;ll get from you, if you bother to respond.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s not incredibly insightful, nor is it good economics. What is the &#8220;right&#8221; length for stage 1? How do you know? Well, you know based on what the market does, *given* a set of property rights. But which property rights should exist is the very question to begin with! Do you not see the circularity?&#8221;</p>
<p>If the &#8220;property right&#8221; is unjust, then it is no right at all. It is a state-granted privilege. And, just like mercantilism, we can see the effects of IP, who benefits and who is harmed, in its market distortions. I see no circularity.</p>
<p>Magnus is right though. I won&#8217;t bother checking back here, knowing the insulting comments I&#8217;ll get from you, if you bother to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: mpolzkill</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658672</link>
		<dc:creator>mpolzkill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:59:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That is a frivolous, fundamentally wrong-headed word to use, Russ. It&#039;s no wonder you turned back to statism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is a frivolous, fundamentally wrong-headed word to use, Russ. It&#8217;s no wonder you turned back to statism.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658661</link>
		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 08:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mpolzkill wrote: 

&quot;Russ: &quot;shorthand way of saying&quot;

I see. Kind of like &quot;Fairyland&quot;. (haha)&quot;

Nope.  Just a catchy shorthand.  I have used the term &quot;Ancapistan&quot; for years, since the time when I was an anarcho-capitalist myself, and used to hang out on anti-state.com.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mpolzkill wrote: </p>
<p>&#8220;Russ: &#8220;shorthand way of saying&#8221;</p>
<p>I see. Kind of like &#8220;Fairyland&#8221;. (haha)&#8221;</p>
<p>Nope.  Just a catchy shorthand.  I have used the term &#8220;Ancapistan&#8221; for years, since the time when I was an anarcho-capitalist myself, and used to hang out on anti-state.com.  </p>
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		<title>By: clay barham</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658624</link>
		<dc:creator>clay barham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 07:00:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Depending on bureaucrats in a central, big government, to create new jobs that grow beyond just field stoop labor is impossible, as the Old World has shown.  Creating new, challenging, growing and changing jobs has only been done by individuals, free pebble droppers who think out of the box and make wakes and waves, with no fear of punishment by government elite. They create the small business that, when successful, grows to large businesses, such as Apple and Microsoft. That was proven in America and is the reason for its prosperity when compared to high unemployment Old World managed economies, cited in Save Pebble Droppers &amp; Prosperity on Amazon and claysamerica.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Depending on bureaucrats in a central, big government, to create new jobs that grow beyond just field stoop labor is impossible, as the Old World has shown.  Creating new, challenging, growing and changing jobs has only been done by individuals, free pebble droppers who think out of the box and make wakes and waves, with no fear of punishment by government elite. They create the small business that, when successful, grows to large businesses, such as Apple and Microsoft. That was proven in America and is the reason for its prosperity when compared to high unemployment Old World managed economies, cited in Save Pebble Droppers &#038; Prosperity on Amazon and claysamerica.com</p>
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		<title>By: Kerem Tibuk</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/11555/apple-the-monopolist/comment-page-2/#comment-658535</link>
		<dc:creator>Kerem Tibuk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I actually agree with Magnus.

There is something wrong with Silas Barta.  Why would anyone keep engaging idiots over and over, week after week, year after year?

Go and find something else to do Silas Barta.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually agree with Magnus.</p>
<p>There is something wrong with Silas Barta.  Why would anyone keep engaging idiots over and over, week after week, year after year?</p>
<p>Go and find something else to do Silas Barta.</p>
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