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From God or the Sword?

December 10, 2009 by

Is the State ordered in the nature of things? The classical theorists in political science were so persuaded. They believed that political organization enjoyed divine sanction. FULL ARTICLE by Frank Chodorov


Scalp Her December 10, 2009 at 8:51 am

From the sword.

Scalp Her December 10, 2009 at 9:02 am

“At any rate, Hobbes maintained that in this pre-political state man was “brutish” and “nasty,” ever poised at the property and person of his neighbor. His predatory inclination was motivated by an overweening passion for material plenty.”

LOL ! Sounds like democrats and republicans to me.

Democrats and republicans want your wealth and your subservience and will be very brutish and nasty if you don’t deliver them on demand.

Seems to me that the state is nothing but an organized state of nature in favor of statists.

At least in the state of nature, it was not against to law to self defend against agression and you had a fighting chance.

Now, the state is plundering us all and making it illegal to effectively defend ourselves, even in our own homes.

Seems to me that high-tech gadgetry put aside, we are worse off than we were in the state of nature.

There were very few police officers brutishly outlawing uncoerced free trade back then.

The reason is the sword. Ever since a critical mass of thugs formed united by their swords, individuals were no match for them and there was born “civilization” and the “state”.

Taylor December 10, 2009 at 10:03 am

Oh god, awesome pic for the post!

Clay Barham December 10, 2009 at 3:41 pm

Over two thousand years ago, two religious sects declared the lot of us are not just molecules in the pool ruled by the pool maintenance guys. They said we talked directly to our Creator and he recognized each of us as one of His children. Each was able to come to or go away from him at will, and that the welcome mat would always be waiting if choosing to return. He gave individuals the option of forgiveness for making mistakes. He did not look upon us as a component of the human stew, but individuals. That was revolutionary! No wonder long-established governing traditions fought so hard to crush them, feeding their followers to the lions. The world had always been ordered on the notion that a few elite stood outside the pool and ruled us, the many molecules in the pool. It is no wonder that the idea of Christ and Christmas is so sickening to the ruling elite. They are using their power to stop the Christmas Revolution by prohibiting public displays, particularly in America, where individual freedom produced a prosperous nation and the many ruled themselves. They oppose the idea that each individual should be free to chase dreams and use talents and interests for their own benefit. The question, for over two thousand years, is who will win? The anti-Christmas Democrats are the ruling elite in America and they have the power. They say community interests that they define, are more important than are individual interests. Claysamerica.com

tlpalmer December 10, 2009 at 7:36 pm


The Republicans would be just as Anti-Christmas if they were not pretending to be “God’s Political Party.” Many or most “Christian” Churches are as statist as the supposed other side, just using different method to stuff their people into the statist mold. If Christmas didn’t benefit the Churches by drawing people in and getting contributions it would hardly be mentioned.

Yes, I am a Christian, but the state of the churches in country is disgusting with their love of war, love of the state, etc.

billwald December 12, 2009 at 5:46 pm

Blame St. Paul. He told us that government was given to us for our own good. Jesus only encouraged paying taxes. Jesus didn’t claim it was for our good.

Dandrino December 13, 2009 at 10:05 pm

The civil government is a necessary part of civilized life. It is ordained by God. All civil governments are supposed to submit themselves to God and His law as their Supreme Sovereign. They are not a law unto themselves. The problem comes when governments consider themselves sovereign and rule as if God and His law does not exist even when they may give lip service to it. And so we have a constant judgment of the nations going on where the nations are being sifted as wheat to get rid of the chaff. From our viewpoint in history it is often hard to see this happening and we get scared and think that all is lost. But it is important to have faith that God is sovereign and ruling over the earth. All things are working toward the establishment of His Kingdom on Earth where all will be as He planned it to be in the beginning.

Guard December 28, 2009 at 8:59 am

The state is organized crime. Period.

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