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	<title>Comments on: The plight of the dailies</title>
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		<title>By: Rick</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-590247</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 07:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Newspapers are dying because of changes in technology, demographics and journalistic competence. The last item is preventing their survival by innovation and improvement. Even their websites suck. But as these corporate monopolies and their news-bureaucrats release their grip on the marketplace, entreprenuers should come in and take local journalism to a new era, whatever that will be. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Newspapers are dying because of changes in technology, demographics and journalistic competence. The last item is preventing their survival by innovation and improvement. Even their websites suck. But as these corporate monopolies and their news-bureaucrats release their grip on the marketplace, entreprenuers should come in and take local journalism to a new era, whatever that will be. </p>
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		<title>By: Jason Young</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-590118</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Young</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Sep 2009 04:23:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[How has the Christian Science Monitor been doing since their switch to an online daily focus and producing a weekly?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How has the Christian Science Monitor been doing since their switch to an online daily focus and producing a weekly?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-589572</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 08:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[FYI

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:NusYQyohJsgJ:adage.com/mediaworks/article%3Farticle_id%3D134795+newspapers+debt+profit+%22advertising+age%22&amp;cd=1&amp;hl=en&amp;ct=clnk&amp;gl=us&amp;client=safari
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>FYI</p>
<p><a href="http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:NusYQyohJsgJ:adage.com/mediaworks/article%3Farticle_id%3D134795+newspapers+debt+profit+%22advertising+age%22&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us&#038;client=safari" rel="nofollow">http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:NusYQyohJsgJ:adage.com/mediaworks/article%3Farticle_id%3D134795+newspapers+debt+profit+%22advertising+age%22&#038;cd=1&#038;hl=en&#038;ct=clnk&#038;gl=us&#038;client=safari</a></p>
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		<title>By: Freedles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Freedles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 06:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Creative Destruction...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creative Destruction&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: newson</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-589461</link>
		<dc:creator>newson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 04:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[but kakugo, aren&#039;t you in italy, where even &quot;libero&quot; gets government subsidization, as part of the government subsidy of &quot;free speech&quot;?  the print lobby in italy still seems quite robust.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>but kakugo, aren&#8217;t you in italy, where even &#8220;libero&#8221; gets government subsidization, as part of the government subsidy of &#8220;free speech&#8221;?  the print lobby in italy still seems quite robust.</p>
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		<title>By: Kakugo</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-589345</link>
		<dc:creator>Kakugo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 01:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daily newspapers are dying a slow, painful death. Unless they can evolve by offering new services (say, the local news on your i-Phone by paying a monthly or yearly fee) they&#039;ll either downsize considerably or disappear. 
Newsstands here smelt the wind and started selling pretty much everything they can to stay afloat: toys, housewares, clothing etc. A sign of times.
I buy the local newspaper every day, mostly to learn how towns are wasting more money, but given the fact that I seem to become more irritable the older I become I&#039;ll probably quit the habit.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daily newspapers are dying a slow, painful death. Unless they can evolve by offering new services (say, the local news on your i-Phone by paying a monthly or yearly fee) they&#8217;ll either downsize considerably or disappear.<br />
Newsstands here smelt the wind and started selling pretty much everything they can to stay afloat: toys, housewares, clothing etc. A sign of times.<br />
I buy the local newspaper every day, mostly to learn how towns are wasting more money, but given the fact that I seem to become more irritable the older I become I&#8217;ll probably quit the habit.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd Looney</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-589132</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd Looney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;I&gt;Most of the news I get comes from blogs. Too bad they cant be printed daily and distributed to my front door.&lt;/i&gt;

whoa. There&#039;s a business idea.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Most of the news I get comes from blogs. Too bad they cant be printed daily and distributed to my front door.</i></p>
<p>whoa. There&#8217;s a business idea.</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd Looney</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-589128</link>
		<dc:creator>Floyd Looney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The only flaw I see in this article is calling the Orange County Register a &quot;fairly right-wing&quot; paper. It carries pretty much the same AP/NY Times/WashPost articles as every big daily in America. They just have a pro-freedom editorial page. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only flaw I see in this article is calling the Orange County Register a &#8220;fairly right-wing&#8221; paper. It carries pretty much the same AP/NY Times/WashPost articles as every big daily in America. They just have a pro-freedom editorial page. </p>
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		<title>By: jc butte</title>
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		<dc:creator>jc butte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 13:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Speaking for myself, I&#039;d much rather read a newspaper than read the same story on a computer screen.  No lag, no annying popups and slow to load sites.  The problem is that the printed word on newsprient is mostly garbage and I wouldnt subscribe to any available fishwraps if they were free.

Most of the news I get comes from blogs.  Too bad they cant be printed daily and distributed to my front door.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking for myself, I&#8217;d much rather read a newspaper than read the same story on a computer screen.  No lag, no annying popups and slow to load sites.  The problem is that the printed word on newsprient is mostly garbage and I wouldnt subscribe to any available fishwraps if they were free.</p>
<p>Most of the news I get comes from blogs.  Too bad they cant be printed daily and distributed to my front door.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael A. Clem</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-588982</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael A. Clem</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 08:20:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Print has its uses, however humble.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;br&gt;
True, but the price must be discounted accordingly.  And you forgot about lining bird cages...

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Print has its uses, however humble.</i><br />
True, but the price must be discounted accordingly.  And you forgot about lining bird cages&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Grossman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stephen Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You cannot wrap fish with computers. You cannot or should not swat flies with computers. You cannot make kindling with computers. You cannot line a poor man&#039;s coat in cold weather with computers. You cannot crumple computers and throw them at people. You cannot rip a computer in half when angered by a Krugman column. 

Print has its uses, however humble.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot wrap fish with computers. You cannot or should not swat flies with computers. You cannot make kindling with computers. You cannot line a poor man&#8217;s coat in cold weather with computers. You cannot crumple computers and throw them at people. You cannot rip a computer in half when angered by a Krugman column. </p>
<p>Print has its uses, however humble.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohhh Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohhh Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 07:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The problem isn&#039;t what they&#039;re covering. The problem is simply that no one but old people wants paper dailies.&lt;/i&gt;

Old people and government employees.  Those are the only two groups that I know of who are still subscribing to newspapers.

I think that content has something to do with it.  Newspapers are full of pro-establishment fairy tales and extreme fear-mongering (the Ottawa Citizen on the weekend devoted its entire front page to a panicky story about the Pig Fever non-epidemic as if it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 - I wasn&#039;t going to waste my time reading their swill but probably they were banging the drum for forced vaccinations and other pre-emptive emergency measures).

The eminent superiority of the internet is that whenever you smell a con job in something you are reading it is only a matter of a couple of clicks to find out the other side of the story, discover the history and credibility of the sources, and read the debate between bloggers and other anonymous persons who sooner or later will expose all of the facts and viewpoints which the newspapers (and radio/tv) would sooner die than acknowledge or help to propagate to the public.

Old people dislike internet news because you have to be fairly nimble to dig up facts quickly and they would rather receive bland reassurance than raise uncomfortable questions about the soundness of their state benefits.  Government employees prefer establishment sources of information because they need to know the partly line and only the party line, in order to survive and thrive on the job.  Laughing out loud at CO2 or Pig Flu concerns when discussing next year&#039;s budget priorities would be a career-limiting move.

That is why there are more and more calls to rein in the &quot;irresponsible&quot; internet and to make bloggers &quot;accountable&quot;.  The gatekeepers are losing control and they will not let newspapers disappear without getting the upper hand over the wild, wild nets.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The problem isn&#8217;t what they&#8217;re covering. The problem is simply that no one but old people wants paper dailies.</i></p>
<p>Old people and government employees.  Those are the only two groups that I know of who are still subscribing to newspapers.</p>
<p>I think that content has something to do with it.  Newspapers are full of pro-establishment fairy tales and extreme fear-mongering (the Ottawa Citizen on the weekend devoted its entire front page to a panicky story about the Pig Fever non-epidemic as if it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11 &#8211; I wasn&#8217;t going to waste my time reading their swill but probably they were banging the drum for forced vaccinations and other pre-emptive emergency measures).</p>
<p>The eminent superiority of the internet is that whenever you smell a con job in something you are reading it is only a matter of a couple of clicks to find out the other side of the story, discover the history and credibility of the sources, and read the debate between bloggers and other anonymous persons who sooner or later will expose all of the facts and viewpoints which the newspapers (and radio/tv) would sooner die than acknowledge or help to propagate to the public.</p>
<p>Old people dislike internet news because you have to be fairly nimble to dig up facts quickly and they would rather receive bland reassurance than raise uncomfortable questions about the soundness of their state benefits.  Government employees prefer establishment sources of information because they need to know the partly line and only the party line, in order to survive and thrive on the job.  Laughing out loud at CO2 or Pig Flu concerns when discussing next year&#8217;s budget priorities would be a career-limiting move.</p>
<p>That is why there are more and more calls to rein in the &#8220;irresponsible&#8221; internet and to make bloggers &#8220;accountable&#8221;.  The gatekeepers are losing control and they will not let newspapers disappear without getting the upper hand over the wild, wild nets.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan McMaken</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan McMaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:42:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ben, yes, in fact, I tend to think that the rack-and-stack papers that are found in coffee shops and similar places have actually increased in relevance. They are free, and people actually read them over lunch and on the train, etc. I like to read the Denver Daily News which is the local rack-and-stack daily. 

But again, no reader would be willing to pay for them, and even they are struggling. Some daily rack-and-stacks have recently switched to 3 issues per week. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben, yes, in fact, I tend to think that the rack-and-stack papers that are found in coffee shops and similar places have actually increased in relevance. They are free, and people actually read them over lunch and on the train, etc. I like to read the Denver Daily News which is the local rack-and-stack daily. </p>
<p>But again, no reader would be willing to pay for them, and even they are struggling. Some daily rack-and-stacks have recently switched to 3 issues per week. </p>
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		<title>By: Ben Ranson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben Ranson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I doubt that daily newspapers will entirely go the way of the dinosaur.  Although it is true that internet competition is forcing dailies to struggle to stay relevant, daily newspapers still have a few advantages over other forms of media.

Papers, particularly tabloid style papers such as The Metro still have direct advertising access to consumers.  The effectiveness of internet advertising is not yet proven as far as local businesses in many areas are concerned.  Local businesses are justifiably distrustful of advertising on the internet.  However, print ads are well understood, and proven.

Not all consumers get news on the internet yet.  Some people may never use it.  Also, the format of certain sections of newspapers, such as the sports section, letters to the editor, entertainment, etc... are appealing to many consumers.  Although internet sites duplicate these formats, consumers might still see them as inferior substitutes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doubt that daily newspapers will entirely go the way of the dinosaur.  Although it is true that internet competition is forcing dailies to struggle to stay relevant, daily newspapers still have a few advantages over other forms of media.</p>
<p>Papers, particularly tabloid style papers such as The Metro still have direct advertising access to consumers.  The effectiveness of internet advertising is not yet proven as far as local businesses in many areas are concerned.  Local businesses are justifiably distrustful of advertising on the internet.  However, print ads are well understood, and proven.</p>
<p>Not all consumers get news on the internet yet.  Some people may never use it.  Also, the format of certain sections of newspapers, such as the sports section, letters to the editor, entertainment, etc&#8230; are appealing to many consumers.  Although internet sites duplicate these formats, consumers might still see them as inferior substitutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan McMaken</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10561/the-plight-of-the-dailies/comment-page-1/#comment-588896</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan McMaken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike, you&#039;re wrong. Advertising dollars have cratered, and subscription growth is nil. Also, they have adopted enormous debt in order to stay afloat. No one&#039;s willing to pay a subscription price that covers the cost of doing business. 

Also, saying they&#039;d be profitable if they didn&#039;t have debt is a little like saying that we could jump off skyscrapers if there were no gravity. In the real world, the debt is there, and it&#039;s a factor in addition to plummeting advertising dollars and lackluster readership. They could make money if people were willing to actually pay for the newspaper, which they are not. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, you&#8217;re wrong. Advertising dollars have cratered, and subscription growth is nil. Also, they have adopted enormous debt in order to stay afloat. No one&#8217;s willing to pay a subscription price that covers the cost of doing business. </p>
<p>Also, saying they&#8217;d be profitable if they didn&#8217;t have debt is a little like saying that we could jump off skyscrapers if there were no gravity. In the real world, the debt is there, and it&#8217;s a factor in addition to plummeting advertising dollars and lackluster readership. They could make money if people were willing to actually pay for the newspaper, which they are not. </p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 05:11:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With all due respect, the problem is that Zell and Freedom and many other newspaper companies took on enormous debt in the 1990s and or early part of this century.

If they did not have to service that debt, most of these companies would be enormously profitable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With all due respect, the problem is that Zell and Freedom and many other newspaper companies took on enormous debt in the 1990s and or early part of this century.</p>
<p>If they did not have to service that debt, most of these companies would be enormously profitable.</p>
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