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		<title>By: Barry Gordon</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-586524</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a Dutch friend, now deceased, that was a prisoner in Japan during WWII.  He told us that while he was a non-smoker, he could trade cigarettes for food and believed it was the only reason he was able to survive.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a Dutch friend, now deceased, that was a prisoner in Japan during WWII.  He told us that while he was a non-smoker, he could trade cigarettes for food and believed it was the only reason he was able to survive.  </p>
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		<title>By: Barry Gordon</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-586523</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Gordon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Aug 2009 21:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We had a Dutch friend, now deceased, that was a prisoner in Japan during WWII.  He told us that while he was a non-smoker, he could trade cigarettes for food and believed it was the only reason he was able to survive.  ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had a Dutch friend, now deceased, that was a prisoner in Japan during WWII.  He told us that while he was a non-smoker, he could trade cigarettes for food and believed it was the only reason he was able to survive.  </p>
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		<title>By: Sally C.</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-581723</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 05:54:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just thought you might like to know what the cost of a (highly taxed) carton of cigarettes costs in the UK - Â£58 or $93 for a carton of ten packs of 20. In Belgium - a short drive from southern England - the same carton costs Â£38 or $62.  Adults are legally entitled to buy up to 16 cartons each.  You can guess that there is a steady stream of Brits travelling to Belgium to buy cheaper cigarettes. Going back to the article, I think most Austrian economists may be surprised by how strong the dollar will be for some time to come. As we saw earlier this year, at any sign of trouble, the world runs to the dollar for safety. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thought you might like to know what the cost of a (highly taxed) carton of cigarettes costs in the UK &#8211; Â£58 or $93 for a carton of ten packs of 20. In Belgium &#8211; a short drive from southern England &#8211; the same carton costs Â£38 or $62.  Adults are legally entitled to buy up to 16 cartons each.  You can guess that there is a steady stream of Brits travelling to Belgium to buy cheaper cigarettes. Going back to the article, I think most Austrian economists may be surprised by how strong the dollar will be for some time to come. As we saw earlier this year, at any sign of trouble, the world runs to the dollar for safety. </p>
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		<title>By: panika2008</title>
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		<dc:creator>panika2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 02:53:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@KSB29: contrary to common wisdom, wine does not improve in quality by being stored beyond the first one-two years. And most wine experts I&#039;ve read recommend sternly against storing any wine longer than 5 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@KSB29: contrary to common wisdom, wine does not improve in quality by being stored beyond the first one-two years. And most wine experts I&#8217;ve read recommend sternly against storing any wine longer than 5 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-581512</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 15:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@2nd Amendment

That statement (about Government&#039;s end being the preservation of property) must be taken in the proper context. It is meant to be understood as: Government has no other end than the preservation of property rights. 
That falls more into line with Locke&#039;s writings on Liberty, Property, Society, and Government.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@2nd Amendment</p>
<p>That statement (about Government&#8217;s end being the preservation of property) must be taken in the proper context. It is meant to be understood as: Government has no other end than the preservation of property rights.<br />
That falls more into line with Locke&#8217;s writings on Liberty, Property, Society, and Government.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-581291</link>
		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 10:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/14/cocaine.traces.money/&quot; &gt;90 percent of US bills carry traces of cocaine
&lt;/a&gt;&#160;

Smoke yer bills and trade yer cigs, like in the pic! ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/08/14/cocaine.traces.money/" >90 percent of US bills carry traces of cocaine<br />
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<p>Smoke yer bills and trade yer cigs, like in the pic! <img src='http://archive.mises.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Amendment</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-581273</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd Amendment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry Loberfield,

&quot;Government has no other end than the preservation of property.&quot;

This is exactly the end which government should not be engaging in.

By giving the government the power to preserve your property, you are giving them the power to take away your property in the name of preserving it.

Property owners are the best suited to protect their own property and the government has no legitimate end whatsoever.

Let it organize art endowment shows and fireworks musical displays instead and let the property owners defend their own property without government interference.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Loberfield,</p>
<p>&#8220;Government has no other end than the preservation of property.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is exactly the end which government should not be engaging in.</p>
<p>By giving the government the power to preserve your property, you are giving them the power to take away your property in the name of preserving it.</p>
<p>Property owners are the best suited to protect their own property and the government has no legitimate end whatsoever.</p>
<p>Let it organize art endowment shows and fireworks musical displays instead and let the property owners defend their own property without government interference.</p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Amendment</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-581269</link>
		<dc:creator>2nd Amendment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 09:05:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Barry Loberfield,

What about those who are engaging in playful sodomy and want to insert cigarettes in the right place ? LOL !

I suppose then that a liberal government would regulate such practice and allow only unlit cigarettes, LOL !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry Loberfield,</p>
<p>What about those who are engaging in playful sodomy and want to insert cigarettes in the right place ? LOL !</p>
<p>I suppose then that a liberal government would regulate such practice and allow only unlit cigarettes, LOL !</p>
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		<title>By: KSB29</title>
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		<dc:creator>KSB29</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 07:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Short shelf life?

Remember, it&#039;s the tobacco that is valuable, not the filter and paper. That can (and has) been improvised on the spot for centuries. 

Tobacco can be stored for a very long time with little ill effect, provided it&#039;s done properly. In fact age will improve the flavor the same way as with wines.   

I&#039;m already laying in my stock of pipe tobacco before the trolls in DC close that &quot;tax loop-hole&quot; or cram it full of that awful tasting FSC chemical as well.

Of course there is the most obvious solution. Buy Tobacco seeds while you still can. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Short shelf life?</p>
<p>Remember, it&#8217;s the tobacco that is valuable, not the filter and paper. That can (and has) been improvised on the spot for centuries. </p>
<p>Tobacco can be stored for a very long time with little ill effect, provided it&#8217;s done properly. In fact age will improve the flavor the same way as with wines.   </p>
<p>I&#8217;m already laying in my stock of pipe tobacco before the trolls in DC close that &#8220;tax loop-hole&#8221; or cram it full of that awful tasting FSC chemical as well.</p>
<p>Of course there is the most obvious solution. Buy Tobacco seeds while you still can. </p>
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		<title>By: Barry Loberfeld</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10471/store-em-if-you-got-em/comment-page-1/#comment-581211</link>
		<dc:creator>Barry Loberfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 06:02:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[RE War on Smoking:

&lt;I&gt;When a principle or premise defends one&#039;s case, it is affirmed; when it doesn&#039;t, it&#039;s denied&lt;/i&gt;. Think about these two statements:

*Individuals have the right to engage in consensual private behavior even if it can harm them.

*The government has the duty to stop individuals from engaging in consensual private behavior that can harm them.

So, which does our &quot;liberal&quot; believe in? Well, if the issue&#039;s smoking, the second. But if it&#039;s &quot;sodomy,&quot; then the first. And the &quot;conservative&quot;? Just the reverse. What prevails is a now-you-see-it-now-you-don&#039;t commitment to any tenet. Moral integrity falls to personal prejudice, and hypocrisy becomes the standard of &quot;social democracy.&quot;

FROM &lt;A HREF=&quot;http://Abcdunlimited.com/ideas/liberalism.html&quot;&gt;HERE&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE War on Smoking:</p>
<p><i>When a principle or premise defends one&#8217;s case, it is affirmed; when it doesn&#8217;t, it&#8217;s denied</i>. Think about these two statements:</p>
<p>*Individuals have the right to engage in consensual private behavior even if it can harm them.</p>
<p>*The government has the duty to stop individuals from engaging in consensual private behavior that can harm them.</p>
<p>So, which does our &#8220;liberal&#8221; believe in? Well, if the issue&#8217;s smoking, the second. But if it&#8217;s &#8220;sodomy,&#8221; then the first. And the &#8220;conservative&#8221;? Just the reverse. What prevails is a now-you-see-it-now-you-don&#8217;t commitment to any tenet. Moral integrity falls to personal prejudice, and hypocrisy becomes the standard of &#8220;social democracy.&#8221;</p>
<p>FROM <a HREF="http://Abcdunlimited.com/ideas/liberalism.html">HERE</a></p>
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		<title>By: BT</title>
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		<dc:creator>BT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Who cares about &quot;shelf life?&quot; If things become so bad that cigarettes become currency, people won&#039;t care what the quality of the cigarette is ;-) 

And you may not be able to defend yourself with a pack of Camels, but you sure can do a lot of bribing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who cares about &#8220;shelf life?&#8221; If things become so bad that cigarettes become currency, people won&#8217;t care what the quality of the cigarette is <img src='http://archive.mises.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>And you may not be able to defend yourself with a pack of Camels, but you sure can do a lot of bribing.</p>
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		<title>By: FarSide</title>
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		<dc:creator>FarSide</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@John -

Is the shelf life really that short? I smoke about 2 packs a *year*, and by the time I get to the end, I don&#039;t notice any difference. 

Of course, a year isn&#039;t that long, and I obviously am not a very discriminating smoker, but what would a shelf-life of a plastic-sealed pack be? I would think a few years and most people would be still fine with them...
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John -</p>
<p>Is the shelf life really that short? I smoke about 2 packs a *year*, and by the time I get to the end, I don&#8217;t notice any difference. </p>
<p>Of course, a year isn&#8217;t that long, and I obviously am not a very discriminating smoker, but what would a shelf-life of a plastic-sealed pack be? I would think a few years and most people would be still fine with them&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Nate Y</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nate Y</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:14:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[John said:

&quot;Also, dont&#039; try defending yourself with a pack of Camels!&quot;

Are you gonna defend yourself with a handful of bullets?  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John said:</p>
<p>&#8220;Also, dont&#8217; try defending yourself with a pack of Camels!&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you gonna defend yourself with a handful of bullets?  </p>
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		<title>By: 2nd Amendment</title>
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		<dc:creator>2nd Amendment</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 05:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t think of anything better than GOLD !

You can keep the smokes, I will buy GOLD !]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t think of anything better than GOLD !</p>
<p>You can keep the smokes, I will buy GOLD !</p>
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		<title>By: Gil</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 04:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Perhaps another factors in &quot;what makes a good private currency&quot; is &#039;non-traceabilty&#039;.  Do thos engagin in underground transactions use commodities as money because they can&#039;t be traced?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps another factors in &#8220;what makes a good private currency&#8221; is &#8216;non-traceabilty&#8217;.  Do thos engagin in underground transactions use commodities as money because they can&#8217;t be traced?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean </title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean </dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:58:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[R.A. Radford has a great piece on Cigarettes as a currency in a WWII POW camp. 
http://www.oddgods.com/articles/2006/n24a]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>R.A. Radford has a great piece on Cigarettes as a currency in a WWII POW camp.<br />
<a href="http://www.oddgods.com/articles/2006/n24a" rel="nofollow">http://www.oddgods.com/articles/2006/n24a</a></p>
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		<title>By: Silas Barta</title>
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		<dc:creator>Silas Barta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:46:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Also, dont&#039; try defending yourself with a pack of Camels!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yeah -- they&#039;ll get smoked!

*rim shot*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Also, dont&#8217; try defending yourself with a pack of Camels!</p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah &#8212; they&#8217;ll get smoked!</p>
<p>*rim shot*</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[cigarettes have a relatively short shelf life, making them unsuitable as a store of value.  bullets, on the other hand, have almost unlimited shelf life and don&#039;t take up a lot of space, either.  Also, dont&#039; try defending yourself with a pack of Camels!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>cigarettes have a relatively short shelf life, making them unsuitable as a store of value.  bullets, on the other hand, have almost unlimited shelf life and don&#8217;t take up a lot of space, either.  Also, dont&#8217; try defending yourself with a pack of Camels!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Storing cigarettes?  Ok
Just heard yesterday Cuba is running very short of Toilet Paper..so.. Cubans would have been foresightful in storing Toilet Paper. Seems to me that storing Toilet Paper makes more sense than cigarettes. Besides the government might confiscate your cigarettes but it&#039;s very doubtful that they will confiscate Toilet Paper. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Storing cigarettes?  Ok<br />
Just heard yesterday Cuba is running very short of Toilet Paper..so.. Cubans would have been foresightful in storing Toilet Paper. Seems to me that storing Toilet Paper makes more sense than cigarettes. Besides the government might confiscate your cigarettes but it&#8217;s very doubtful that they will confiscate Toilet Paper. </p>
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		<title>By: N. Joseph Potts</title>
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		<dc:creator>N. Joseph Potts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 03:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For purposes of keeping my treasure marketable, I was considering refrigerating my safe. 

That effort led me instead ultimately to put a combination lock on my refrigerator.

Fortunately, I don&#039;t smoke. But I do drink the beer I keep right next to my Luckies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For purposes of keeping my treasure marketable, I was considering refrigerating my safe. </p>
<p>That effort led me instead ultimately to put a combination lock on my refrigerator.</p>
<p>Fortunately, I don&#8217;t smoke. But I do drink the beer I keep right next to my Luckies.</p>
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