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		<title>By: Iranian Centrifuge</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10409/how-not-to-bring-broadband-to-all/comment-page-1/#comment-606737</link>
		<dc:creator>Iranian Centrifuge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 02:03:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/10/02/knight_commission_report/

&quot;A long-awaited US report studying access to online information was released Friday. One of its recommendations is that the government radically step up its efforts to ensure broadband access to all.

The report, Informing Communities: Sustaining Democracy in the Digital Age, was developed in a partnership of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation and the Aspen Institute, and written by a 16-member panel co-chaired by Marissa Mayer, Google&#039;s VP for seach products and user experience, and Theodore B. Olson, a partner in the Gibson, Dunn &amp; Crutcher law firm and former US Solicitor General.&quot;]]></description>
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<p>&#8220;A long-awaited US report studying access to online information was released Friday. One of its recommendations is that the government radically step up its efforts to ensure broadband access to all.</p>
<p>The report, Informing Communities: Sustaining Democracy in the Digital Age, was developed in a partnership of the John S. and James L. Knight Foundation and the Aspen Institute, and written by a 16-member panel co-chaired by Marissa Mayer, Google&#8217;s VP for seach products and user experience, and Theodore B. Olson, a partner in the Gibson, Dunn &#038; Crutcher law firm and former US Solicitor General.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10409/how-not-to-bring-broadband-to-all/comment-page-1/#comment-577494</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 23:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for your comments.

KP, the good thing about letting the market free is that it will solve those problems your are depicting. At this moment, this is not the case with telecom markets.

Jonathan Finegold Catalan,
In Spain, any company can provide you with a phone line, not only TelefÃ³nica. Of course, it is cheaper for Orange to use TelefÃ³nica&#039;s lines (at regulated prices) than to install its own line.
So, as Mitch stated, it is a &quot;consequently monopollistic&quot; market.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
<p>KP, the good thing about letting the market free is that it will solve those problems your are depicting. At this moment, this is not the case with telecom markets.</p>
<p>Jonathan Finegold Catalan,<br />
In Spain, any company can provide you with a phone line, not only TelefÃ³nica. Of course, it is cheaper for Orange to use TelefÃ³nica&#8217;s lines (at regulated prices) than to install its own line.<br />
So, as Mitch stated, it is a &#8220;consequently monopollistic&#8221; market.</p>
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		<title>By: Bergfeld</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10409/how-not-to-bring-broadband-to-all/comment-page-1/#comment-575602</link>
		<dc:creator>Bergfeld</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 07:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Although I definitely agrees with the conclusions of this essay, I think the author gives free markets a little too much credit.  Free markets do not necessarily ensure that all demand is satisfied.  But they do ensure, through the efforts of entrepreneurs, that the economy is always moving in that direction in response to changes in external factors.

That said, free markets are still clearly the best method for allocating resources available to mankind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I definitely agrees with the conclusions of this essay, I think the author gives free markets a little too much credit.  Free markets do not necessarily ensure that all demand is satisfied.  But they do ensure, through the efforts of entrepreneurs, that the economy is always moving in that direction in response to changes in external factors.</p>
<p>That said, free markets are still clearly the best method for allocating resources available to mankind.</p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
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		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 05:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To All: 

Thank you for your responses.. but how would implement a free market response where a physical limitation is there.. that would mean individual cables to each house instead of bulk run into a community. This would drive up costs. (Currently we have bulk cable runs via telephone poles which includes 480V or 220VAC power, telephone cables and cable lines. Each pole then will have some sort of terminal box where you would feed from that. If we deregulate and open up the market for individuals to chose a company. They would have to draw an independent cable or telephone line, maintain that line, and install any upgrades in that small area.)

I am all for free markets, but I&#039;m trying to understand a realistic solution. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To All: </p>
<p>Thank you for your responses.. but how would implement a free market response where a physical limitation is there.. that would mean individual cables to each house instead of bulk run into a community. This would drive up costs. (Currently we have bulk cable runs via telephone poles which includes 480V or 220VAC power, telephone cables and cable lines. Each pole then will have some sort of terminal box where you would feed from that. If we deregulate and open up the market for individuals to chose a company. They would have to draw an independent cable or telephone line, maintain that line, and install any upgrades in that small area.)</p>
<p>I am all for free markets, but I&#8217;m trying to understand a realistic solution. </p>
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		<title>By: ShedPlant</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10409/how-not-to-bring-broadband-to-all/comment-page-1/#comment-575277</link>
		<dc:creator>ShedPlant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 10:06:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The UK government isn&#039;t &quot;about to re-nationalize the telecommunication network&quot;. BT is profitable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UK government isn&#8217;t &#8220;about to re-nationalize the telecommunication network&#8221;. BT is profitable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan Finegold CatalÃ¡n</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan Finegold CatalÃ¡n</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:19:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[KP,

In Spain, broadband internet is monopolistic, as well.  For example, I wanted to put in Orange broadband internet in my flat, but in order to get access I needed a phone line.  TelefÃ³nica is the only company that is able to put in a phone line to your house, and their rates are insanely expensive (in Argentina, they are known as &quot;TimofÃ³nica&quot;).  So, Herrera-Gonzalez&#039; article essentially operates under similar assumptions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>KP,</p>
<p>In Spain, broadband internet is monopolistic, as well.  For example, I wanted to put in Orange broadband internet in my flat, but in order to get access I needed a phone line.  TelefÃ³nica is the only company that is able to put in a phone line to your house, and their rates are insanely expensive (in Argentina, they are known as &#8220;TimofÃ³nica&#8221;).  So, Herrera-Gonzalez&#8217; article essentially operates under similar assumptions.</p>
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		<title>By: Ohhh Henry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ohhh Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 08:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;&quot;In summary, the inclusion of broadband access in the universal service obligation will not only fail to achieve extension of broadband access, but will also fall short of the extension that would otherwise be attained under free market conditions&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t think that universal broadband access is really the goal of the Eurocrats.  Instead it&#039;s a Trojan horse wherein if you provide everyone with broadband then you in effect own the broadband and it is yours to control, monitor, censor and proscribe.  Sharing politically incorrect opinions (&quot;hate speech&quot;), unregulated (untaxed) commercial activity and spam of all kinds (whatever they define to be spam) are crimes against the People&#039;s Broadband, which are therefore crimes against the People.  The usual &lt;a href=&quot;http://mises.org/books/TRTS/&quot;&gt;Road to Serfdom&lt;/a&gt; stuff.

(Obamacare proponents take note)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;In summary, the inclusion of broadband access in the universal service obligation will not only fail to achieve extension of broadband access, but will also fall short of the extension that would otherwise be attained under free market conditions&#8221;</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that universal broadband access is really the goal of the Eurocrats.  Instead it&#8217;s a Trojan horse wherein if you provide everyone with broadband then you in effect own the broadband and it is yours to control, monitor, censor and proscribe.  Sharing politically incorrect opinions (&#8220;hate speech&#8221;), unregulated (untaxed) commercial activity and spam of all kinds (whatever they define to be spam) are crimes against the People&#8217;s Broadband, which are therefore crimes against the People.  The usual <a href="http://mises.org/books/TRTS/">Road to Serfdom</a> stuff.</p>
<p>(Obamacare proponents take note)</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10409/how-not-to-bring-broadband-to-all/comment-page-1/#comment-575207</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 07:25:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Cable broadband in the U.S. is consequentially very monopolistic, not essentially. Austrians would argue that intervention into the free market is the cause.

&quot;At around the same time the modern-day FCC was being erected, the nationalization of independent telecom networks was being implemented. [3]

Beginning in 1907 and under the rhetoric of &quot;national security&quot; as well as the fallacious belief that everyone should have a phone, AT&amp;T was granted geographical monopolies by each state. This was done despite the fact that at the turn of 20th century more than 50% of local telephone service was controlled by rivals.[4][5]

This insulation from competition also took place under the auspices of federal legislation including the Mann-Elkins Act of 1910 and the calculating Kingsbury Commitment of 1913. These edicts effectively cemented AT&amp;T&#039;s role as the central telecom firm for the entire country.[6]&quot;

From here: http://mises.org/daily/2806.

Many other &quot;utility&quot; companies here have enjoyed similar insulation. ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cable broadband in the U.S. is consequentially very monopolistic, not essentially. Austrians would argue that intervention into the free market is the cause.</p>
<p>&#8220;At around the same time the modern-day FCC was being erected, the nationalization of independent telecom networks was being implemented. [3]</p>
<p>Beginning in 1907 and under the rhetoric of &#8220;national security&#8221; as well as the fallacious belief that everyone should have a phone, AT&#038;T was granted geographical monopolies by each state. This was done despite the fact that at the turn of 20th century more than 50% of local telephone service was controlled by rivals.[4][5]</p>
<p>This insulation from competition also took place under the auspices of federal legislation including the Mann-Elkins Act of 1910 and the calculating Kingsbury Commitment of 1913. These edicts effectively cemented AT&#038;T&#8217;s role as the central telecom firm for the entire country.[6]&#8221;</p>
<p>From here: <a href="http://mises.org/daily/2806" rel="nofollow">http://mises.org/daily/2806</a>.</p>
<p>Many other &#8220;utility&#8221; companies here have enjoyed similar insulation. </p>
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		<title>By: KP</title>
		<link>http://archive.mises.org/10409/how-not-to-bring-broadband-to-all/comment-page-1/#comment-575135</link>
		<dc:creator>KP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Aug 2009 04:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great article but in the US, cable broadband is essentially very monopolistic. There is a limitation on entry, how do you combat this? ]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article but in the US, cable broadband is essentially very monopolistic. There is a limitation on entry, how do you combat this? </p>
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